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    straitshooter got a reaction from BobDole in Ohio State scandal   
    Sure as hell wouldn't want to live in your world.  Smoking dope only affects (directly) the user and is voluntary.  Physical abuse/violence is not voluntary for the recipient - two very different things.
     
    "If it's not impacting the job that they are hired for, does it matter?"  A few possibilities:
     
    -) your employee runs a little meth lab down the block from a middle school - 'get 'em while they're young', he says.  But he never brings his side business on your premises.
    -) your employee runs a little brothel after hours - 'I like the foreign ones best, they don't know that they can quit any time.'  But he never brings his side business on your premises.
    -) the tenant in your rental beats his wife and kids whenever you go by to check on your property - but he doesn't damage the property and he always pays early.
     
    In your world, profit comes ahead of everything?  There is no line?
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    straitshooter got a reaction from treep2000 in Ohio State scandal   
    Sure as hell wouldn't want to live in your world.  Smoking dope only affects (directly) the user and is voluntary.  Physical abuse/violence is not voluntary for the recipient - two very different things.
     
    "If it's not impacting the job that they are hired for, does it matter?"  A few possibilities:
     
    -) your employee runs a little meth lab down the block from a middle school - 'get 'em while they're young', he says.  But he never brings his side business on your premises.
    -) your employee runs a little brothel after hours - 'I like the foreign ones best, they don't know that they can quit any time.'  But he never brings his side business on your premises.
    -) the tenant in your rental beats his wife and kids whenever you go by to check on your property - but he doesn't damage the property and he always pays early.
     
    In your world, profit comes ahead of everything?  There is no line?
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    straitshooter got a reaction from GockeS in Eastern Michigan   
    I can't be quite as anti-Notre Dame, growing up Catholic and all that, but even among the faithful, their methods and arrogance rub people the wrong way.  That underhanded behavior seems pretty common in higher education, though.  I wonder sometimes, in the future I can see people not giving money directly to colleges (or any other causes) at all, particularly the truly wealthy.  I'll set up my own endowment, keep control of the principle and send you a check once a year if I'm good with your operations.  Seems like a better way to hold people accountable, although tax laws and such might make this impractical.
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    straitshooter got a reaction from pamela in Eastern Michigan   
    "because they won't do anything for our sport."  Weird logic.  Tapping into a previously ignored participant and fan base can't possibly have any positive effects?
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    straitshooter got a reaction from Coach_J in Eastern Michigan   
    I can't be quite as anti-Notre Dame, growing up Catholic and all that, but even among the faithful, their methods and arrogance rub people the wrong way.  That underhanded behavior seems pretty common in higher education, though.  I wonder sometimes, in the future I can see people not giving money directly to colleges (or any other causes) at all, particularly the truly wealthy.  I'll set up my own endowment, keep control of the principle and send you a check once a year if I'm good with your operations.  Seems like a better way to hold people accountable, although tax laws and such might make this impractical.
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    straitshooter got a reaction from Coach_J in Eastern Michigan   
    Coach, did the school fight you on the restrictions?  They always want money no strings attached, but who doesn't?  As Notre Dame proved, they have high-priced legal counsel that can find ways around such restrictions.  I put this on an earlier thread somewhere, my old school cancelled the program, then said, OK, you have four years to raise $500,000.  Within weeks of the fourth installments coming in, they killed the program and said they'd keep the money.  Can't prove it, but I always thought they ran a bait-and-switch, cynically figured these caveman wrestlers wouldn't know what hit them.  Probably their biggest mistake, they should have let the program have one more season, then claim they used up all the money.  As it was, their attitude got ugly when they had to write a lot of refund checks.
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    straitshooter got a reaction from Coach_J in Isn't a true freshman supposed to be 17-18 years old?   
    Not quite what you're aiming here for , but Hall of Fame citation, David 'Buddy' Arndt: 'became the only wrestler to win National Collegiate championships on both sides of World War II.'  Champ in 1940, 1941, 1946.  In the gap, flew over 100 combat missions as a P-38 fighter pilot, was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross with four clusters and six Bronze Battle Stars.  I'm guessing he wouldn't consider going for his third title the most pressure he ever felt.
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    straitshooter got a reaction from Old142 in Tsirtsis   
    With all this stuff about his wrestling - and it would be great to see him go out on top - more importantly, did he get himself back on track academically?  That may be hard to know due to privacy regs and all that, but that is a priority, too.  Hope to hear in May or thereabouts that he walks across the stage and gets his degree.  Anyone with any info?
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    straitshooter got a reaction from tbert in Kudos to ESPN ... but is Marsteller really a daddy?   
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    straitshooter got a reaction from airmail in Historic NCAA Finals losses that were shockers   
    The Moore-Lang one was pretty memorable - just total dominance.  Wasn't Lang undefeated along with the #1 seed?  The finals were broadcast live that year - ESPN? One of the others?  In any case, the announcers were droning, Lang is a prohibitive favorite, well he gave up the first takedown but he's just limbering up, well he's taking his time getting in his rhythm...  Meanwhile the score is something like 10-0, Moore is turning him at will and the match is nearly over before the clueless announcers realize, "hey, Lang might be in a little trouble here..."  Even a non-wrestling fan had to wonder, are those blathering fools in the same gym?
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    straitshooter got a reaction from mattchristensen112 in Historic NCAA Finals losses that were shockers   
    The Moore-Lang one was pretty memorable - just total dominance.  Wasn't Lang undefeated along with the #1 seed?  The finals were broadcast live that year - ESPN? One of the others?  In any case, the announcers were droning, Lang is a prohibitive favorite, well he gave up the first takedown but he's just limbering up, well he's taking his time getting in his rhythm...  Meanwhile the score is something like 10-0, Moore is turning him at will and the match is nearly over before the clueless announcers realize, "hey, Lang might be in a little trouble here..."  Even a non-wrestling fan had to wonder, are those blathering fools in the same gym?
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    straitshooter got a reaction from Jasonmitchell32 in ODU vs. Ohio...???   
    I've taught CPR, BLS (healthcare provider version) and ACLS (in-hospital cardiac arrest) courses for several years now.  Ironically, although I've done compressions and used manual defibrillators many times, I've never seen an AED used - always been near a full code cart when needed.  Anyway, your concern is the true issue, they are pretty mindless to use.  It's more about having the nerve to use it and hit the button when it tells you to if you've never seen it done before.  Also, this is not the time for modesty.  If it's a woman, you have get everything out of the way and get, um, hands on to get the pads onto bare skin - the system can't do its job through clothing.  If you're a brawny wrestler type but someone else is handling the machine, you can chase away any gawkers, or at least form a ring around the individual for privacy.  I could go on at length here, but every adult should know the basic procedure for using an AED.  The alleged scenario here is the ideal one for cardiac arrest; an otherwise healthy person whose heart suddenly stopped pumping blood, witnessed event, immediate action.  You'd hate to be there when you see an 'AED' on the wall - and no one knows/is willing to use it.
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    straitshooter got a reaction from Jasonmitchell32 in ODU vs. Ohio...???   
    A clarification or two on the last post.  In a situation that appears to be the case here, emergency providers will quickly remove all clothing from the upper body - male, female, young, old - trauma scissors cut through just about anything.  If you have, say, a dozen people standing there doing nothing else, have them form a tight circle, shoulder to shoulder, facing out.  You can't always move the patient immediately, and if you see any inappropriate gawking, well, put a stop to it.  On batteries, etc, I had a few classes 'on-site', where the company I taught for send me to the school, business, etc.  Part of the contract was to check all their AEDs while there from a standard checklist: two unexpired batteries, unopened set of pads, machine turns on when activated, etc.  If it fails, let them know what needs replacing/repairs/whatever.  As CPR certification is only good for two years, that should be the max time between maintenance checks.  When you're looking to buy AEDs, ask if they have followup like this; if not, consider another supplier.
     
    Getting ready to head to the gym, and yes, they have an AED.  It's funny, whatever your world is, that's the prism you look through.  My reserve unit had a briefing shortly after the Las Vegas shooting by a full-time police officer, he said the first thing he does on entering any room is determine all the exits.  Since I started teaching CPR/etc courses, I go in a public building, I look for the AED. I don't want to waste time looking if it's needed.  (and per my colleague, I know where the exits are, too.)
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    straitshooter got a reaction from quanon in Drexel   
    Had to jump in on this one.  My first job out of college I worked for a Navy research facility just north of Philadelphia, before moving there I didn't know much about Drexel.  They sent tons of engineering students on co-ops to the place, very impressed with the people they sent and the quality of the education there.  They also had a 'fashion design' department or study, I know nothing of that business, but they did.  Same requirements, 6 months in the classroom, 6 months in NYC or somewhere working in the industry.  I wish we had a lot more educational programs like this, and not euphemistic 'internships' where people are just aiming for a good reference letter or such - we had realistic but real work expectations for the engineering co-ops.  One thing puzzles me on this thread, though, the co-ops are nowhere near campus for six months.  I thought most of the school's academic tracks required co-op experience, but seems incompatible with a sports program.  Rizzo, any other Phila natives have info on that, can athletes still work this out somehow?  Anyway, glad to see Drexel doing well - to stay healthy, wrestling needs more than the big boys to thrive.
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    straitshooter got a reaction from AKHUNTER in California likely boycotting Ironman   
    I despise people like this.  "lefty", "libtard", "dotard" "bagger".  You've pretty much declared, no one should ever take your posts as coming from a human being capable of forming an intelligent thought.
     
    And yes, I am a medical doctor.  And while I've forgotten more about quantum mechanics than you ever knew, I have a bachelor's degree in physics.  We're talking about a mismatch of intellects here, and I'll give you a hint - you're on the short end.
     
    This.  What he looked like back home may not have been what the matside doc saw in his examination.  Sometimes, the needs of the many outweigh the desires of the one.  And to most of us on this board, we're supposed to be the grownups.  Ultimately, it's just a wrestling tournament, not life and death (I'm an ER doc).  The world doesn't end for the guy if he misses one tournament.
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    straitshooter got a reaction from Cletus_Tucker in California likely boycotting Ironman   
    I despise people like this.  "lefty", "libtard", "dotard" "bagger".  You've pretty much declared, no one should ever take your posts as coming from a human being capable of forming an intelligent thought.
     
    And yes, I am a medical doctor.  And while I've forgotten more about quantum mechanics than you ever knew, I have a bachelor's degree in physics.  We're talking about a mismatch of intellects here, and I'll give you a hint - you're on the short end.
     
    This.  What he looked like back home may not have been what the matside doc saw in his examination.  Sometimes, the needs of the many outweigh the desires of the one.  And to most of us on this board, we're supposed to be the grownups.  Ultimately, it's just a wrestling tournament, not life and death (I'm an ER doc).  The world doesn't end for the guy if he misses one tournament.
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    straitshooter got a reaction from AllISeeIsBronze in Wyo vs Ok St   
    Not to be too obnoxious here, but this has nothing to do with any placebo effect.  Partial pressures of oxygen, nitrogen, atmosphere in general pressing upon the body, the ambient pressure of the air around you, the fact that you wear the mask maybe an hour a day vs living 24/7 at altitude every minute of every day, the body's response in terms of red blood cell and hemoglobin production at altitude...
     
    Confession, I thought of this idea myself nearly 20 years ago, when I had the foolish notion to enter the Pike's Peak Marathon.  I lived at sea level, high humidity and temp, NO hills to speak of, how could I simulate altitude.  Hey, what about a mask!  Then I reviewed h.s. physics and chemistry and realized it was nonsense, only a con artist would sell such an item.  Then a few years later I saw people wearing them...  (since then I completed medical school and learned more reasons that this is a ludicrous idea.)
     
    Placebo effect.  If I can last underwater for 20, 30, 40 seconds, does that mean I could swim underwater for, oh, an hour?  I doubt the basic laws of physiology have changed.
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    straitshooter got a reaction from KTG119 in Who was the best wrestler from each school (all-time)!   
    Buddy Lee - wow, haven't heard that name in a long time.  Props to the guys that remember him.  I couldn't stand him in college, very cocky, at a rival school - loved it one year when our guy pinned him in our annual dual. Of course, I learned down the road that Buddy Lee is one of the good guys (and my teammate, while good, never beat him again IIRC).  Years ago I saw a book on the shelves at Barnes and Noble, 'Jump Roping by Buddy Lee'.  I should have bought the book then, never found it again.  What did Lee wind up doing, BTW - did he make a career of the USMC?
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    straitshooter got a reaction from LoStNuMbEr in Skretkowicz resigns as VMI's head wrestling coach   
    Wow, like most here, I was repelled by the ugly attitudes of one poster here, glad to see everyone is calling him out on it.  Comparing a college sport to warfare pretty much disqualifies the poster from ever having any credibility.  Let's look at the coach first, though.  Jason B and KTG probably know the details of VMI and its athletic budget better than I, but I doubt the head wrestling coach position pays enough to support a family - most likely this individual had to also teach, or coach other sports, or had other duties.  VMI is not a school with massive resources.  And what kind of conversations might this coach have with the AD?
     
    1) Hey, boss, you know my son has a heart problem, the docs say now they need to see him at UVA 3 times a week.  That drive from Lexington gets rough in the winter with the snow and ice, and we got a good job offer in town there, I had to take it.  (this one comes from my brother's h.s. track coach one spring - I grew up about 80 min from UVA.  When the coach got the team together and got choked up talking about his son... Well, no one faulted him for taking a job at UVA).
    2) Hey, boss, I've told you about my wife's dad, has terrible Alzheimer's, well now her mom is in a wheelchair herself, and my wife wants to be there and we found a job close to them... or
    3) I'm a selfish jerk who doesn't care about anyone else.
     
    Most of us past the age of 10 have encountered all of these scenarios, and without knowing more about the circumstances around Coach S, it takes a real horse's rear end to condemn the man.  But since we're talking about big name coaches at schools with lots of dollars...
     
    Harold Nichols dropped Arkansas State for the big bucks at Iowa State - pretty disloyal, wouldn't you say?  But karma...
    His prize pupil, Dan Gable shocked the world when he left ISU on short notice in 1972, Dan wasn't willing to wait for his turn...  More ISU karma...
    Jim Gibbons leaves on short notice in 1992(?), but...
    Bobby Douglas leaves Arizona State in the lurch, they've never been the same since.  Karma...
    Douglas gets shoved aside for the latest wunderkind, Cael Sanderson, in 2002.  We know how that turned out.  Meanwhile...
    J Robinson abandons Dan Gable in the middle of the dynasty years - why, if he just waited a year or two or ten, Dan would have handed him the job.  Did this Robinson guy ever pay his dues - what was he doing while Gable was prepping for the Olympics?
    And good old Joe Seay, he got the most storied wrestling program the death penalty - I wonder if guys like Alan Fried were OK with that.
     
    All these guys are great coaches and great men, from what I know of them.  They're human, though, did things that may have had negative impact on their athletes.  But no, I want to get a cheap shot in at a guy from a tiny school with miniscule resources.
     
    And do NOT get me started on the military analogies.  (By the way, all of the military heroes named above had career incidents like the ones listed for these coaches - actually far worse, given the stakes.)  ResiliteMarine, I'll go out on a limb and guess you served in the Corps?  Don't hold it against me, I've always been Army, on the reserve side now, passed 21 years this spring.  I never went near direct combat, probably will not at this point, although the world is still a chaotic place.  When I see or hear blowhards go on about their military idols and try to say, see, I'm a tough guy, too, first question is: did you ever raise your hand and take that oath, "I solemnly swear to defend..."  If you have, we'll talk, if you never did - don't ever try to go down that road again. 
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    straitshooter got a reaction from cornercoach in Skretkowicz resigns as VMI's head wrestling coach   
    Wow, like most here, I was repelled by the ugly attitudes of one poster here, glad to see everyone is calling him out on it.  Comparing a college sport to warfare pretty much disqualifies the poster from ever having any credibility.  Let's look at the coach first, though.  Jason B and KTG probably know the details of VMI and its athletic budget better than I, but I doubt the head wrestling coach position pays enough to support a family - most likely this individual had to also teach, or coach other sports, or had other duties.  VMI is not a school with massive resources.  And what kind of conversations might this coach have with the AD?
     
    1) Hey, boss, you know my son has a heart problem, the docs say now they need to see him at UVA 3 times a week.  That drive from Lexington gets rough in the winter with the snow and ice, and we got a good job offer in town there, I had to take it.  (this one comes from my brother's h.s. track coach one spring - I grew up about 80 min from UVA.  When the coach got the team together and got choked up talking about his son... Well, no one faulted him for taking a job at UVA).
    2) Hey, boss, I've told you about my wife's dad, has terrible Alzheimer's, well now her mom is in a wheelchair herself, and my wife wants to be there and we found a job close to them... or
    3) I'm a selfish jerk who doesn't care about anyone else.
     
    Most of us past the age of 10 have encountered all of these scenarios, and without knowing more about the circumstances around Coach S, it takes a real horse's rear end to condemn the man.  But since we're talking about big name coaches at schools with lots of dollars...
     
    Harold Nichols dropped Arkansas State for the big bucks at Iowa State - pretty disloyal, wouldn't you say?  But karma...
    His prize pupil, Dan Gable shocked the world when he left ISU on short notice in 1972, Dan wasn't willing to wait for his turn...  More ISU karma...
    Jim Gibbons leaves on short notice in 1992(?), but...
    Bobby Douglas leaves Arizona State in the lurch, they've never been the same since.  Karma...
    Douglas gets shoved aside for the latest wunderkind, Cael Sanderson, in 2002.  We know how that turned out.  Meanwhile...
    J Robinson abandons Dan Gable in the middle of the dynasty years - why, if he just waited a year or two or ten, Dan would have handed him the job.  Did this Robinson guy ever pay his dues - what was he doing while Gable was prepping for the Olympics?
    And good old Joe Seay, he got the most storied wrestling program the death penalty - I wonder if guys like Alan Fried were OK with that.
     
    All these guys are great coaches and great men, from what I know of them.  They're human, though, did things that may have had negative impact on their athletes.  But no, I want to get a cheap shot in at a guy from a tiny school with miniscule resources.
     
    And do NOT get me started on the military analogies.  (By the way, all of the military heroes named above had career incidents like the ones listed for these coaches - actually far worse, given the stakes.)  ResiliteMarine, I'll go out on a limb and guess you served in the Corps?  Don't hold it against me, I've always been Army, on the reserve side now, passed 21 years this spring.  I never went near direct combat, probably will not at this point, although the world is still a chaotic place.  When I see or hear blowhards go on about their military idols and try to say, see, I'm a tough guy, too, first question is: did you ever raise your hand and take that oath, "I solemnly swear to defend..."  If you have, we'll talk, if you never did - don't ever try to go down that road again. 
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    straitshooter got a reaction from Ray_Brinzer in Coaches Wrestling Their Wrestlers   
    Since I'm in a posting mood... Ray, intentional or not, you wandered into a question that extends far beyond wrestling, "what is leadership?"  And this is one that the 'opposing' philosophies will never come to agreement, as the discussion has gone on - well, forever.
     
    Way, way back, in my days as a Boy Scout, we had a blowhard who was our Scoutmaster.  My dad, with two sons in, put in a lot of time as an Assistant, but didn't need the ego boost of saying 'I'm the boss of a bunch of middle schoolers'.  So one time we're discussing the service projects, and Big Man (he went about 360+lbs) says, "Ideally the project leader brings his lawn chair, he's drinking sodas, he's reading his comics, just keeping an eye on everyone else."  I'm all of 13 and I think, that's the worst definition of leadership I've ever heard.  The project leader should be the hardest working person there; it may not be visible, but he's putting in the effort, putting out fires, being anywhere and everywhere.  And as you said, if it's an all hands situation, they need to know you're not too precious to pick up a broom or a fire hose, whatever the situation calls for.
     
    Many years later, I'm in a physician's lounge, and one guy decides to give his philosophy.  He was a military pilot, now an anesthesiologist (big $$$).  And I remember he said "leadership means never do something another person could do.  You ONLY do things that NO ONE else can do."  I very clearly remember he used the word leadership, and I could not disagree more.  If he came in a room with everyone else trying to do ten things and he saw an overflowing sink with water gushing on to the floor, he would not take the time to turn the faucet off - someone else needs to attend to it.  Perhaps a slight exaggeration, but he was very serious that he considered that 'leadership'.  Good for his income, perhaps, I wouldn't label it leadership.
     
    On your running example, through the twists of life I found myself a platoon sergeant in the Army Reserves for four and change years a while back.  The CO put out a directive, bring your workout uniform every time, as we will conduct PT for an hour every weekend.  Some wise guys (and gals) figure, if I don't bring my workout clothes, they won't make me exercise.  Think again - you can work out in your regular uniform, belt, heavy blouse, cap, all of it.  And you can run with your boots on, AND - I will stay in my duty uniform and run right beside you.  This is when I could still run two miles in about 12:00, which hugely impressed them, no idea why. Anyway, one of the first times someone tried that, I took them to the running trail (CO let me pick the workout), I did not change into PT clothes, stayed in my uniform and did the workout, including running, with the boots on.  And so did everyone else, in whatever uniform they had.  Needless to say, no one tried that excuse again, unless they were new to the unit.  As you said, I will never ask/order you to do something I am unwilling to do myself.  You shouldn't have to play that card too often, but I personally believe it makes a significant difference when motivating people in your charge.  Lead from the front, not from the rear.
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    straitshooter got a reaction from John Coctostan in Coaches Wrestling Their Wrestlers   
    Since I'm in a posting mood... Ray, intentional or not, you wandered into a question that extends far beyond wrestling, "what is leadership?"  And this is one that the 'opposing' philosophies will never come to agreement, as the discussion has gone on - well, forever.
     
    Way, way back, in my days as a Boy Scout, we had a blowhard who was our Scoutmaster.  My dad, with two sons in, put in a lot of time as an Assistant, but didn't need the ego boost of saying 'I'm the boss of a bunch of middle schoolers'.  So one time we're discussing the service projects, and Big Man (he went about 360+lbs) says, "Ideally the project leader brings his lawn chair, he's drinking sodas, he's reading his comics, just keeping an eye on everyone else."  I'm all of 13 and I think, that's the worst definition of leadership I've ever heard.  The project leader should be the hardest working person there; it may not be visible, but he's putting in the effort, putting out fires, being anywhere and everywhere.  And as you said, if it's an all hands situation, they need to know you're not too precious to pick up a broom or a fire hose, whatever the situation calls for.
     
    Many years later, I'm in a physician's lounge, and one guy decides to give his philosophy.  He was a military pilot, now an anesthesiologist (big $$$).  And I remember he said "leadership means never do something another person could do.  You ONLY do things that NO ONE else can do."  I very clearly remember he used the word leadership, and I could not disagree more.  If he came in a room with everyone else trying to do ten things and he saw an overflowing sink with water gushing on to the floor, he would not take the time to turn the faucet off - someone else needs to attend to it.  Perhaps a slight exaggeration, but he was very serious that he considered that 'leadership'.  Good for his income, perhaps, I wouldn't label it leadership.
     
    On your running example, through the twists of life I found myself a platoon sergeant in the Army Reserves for four and change years a while back.  The CO put out a directive, bring your workout uniform every time, as we will conduct PT for an hour every weekend.  Some wise guys (and gals) figure, if I don't bring my workout clothes, they won't make me exercise.  Think again - you can work out in your regular uniform, belt, heavy blouse, cap, all of it.  And you can run with your boots on, AND - I will stay in my duty uniform and run right beside you.  This is when I could still run two miles in about 12:00, which hugely impressed them, no idea why. Anyway, one of the first times someone tried that, I took them to the running trail (CO let me pick the workout), I did not change into PT clothes, stayed in my uniform and did the workout, including running, with the boots on.  And so did everyone else, in whatever uniform they had.  Needless to say, no one tried that excuse again, unless they were new to the unit.  As you said, I will never ask/order you to do something I am unwilling to do myself.  You shouldn't have to play that card too often, but I personally believe it makes a significant difference when motivating people in your charge.  Lead from the front, not from the rear.
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    straitshooter got a reaction from KTG119 in Coaches Wrestling Their Wrestlers   
    Since I'm in a posting mood... Ray, intentional or not, you wandered into a question that extends far beyond wrestling, "what is leadership?"  And this is one that the 'opposing' philosophies will never come to agreement, as the discussion has gone on - well, forever.
     
    Way, way back, in my days as a Boy Scout, we had a blowhard who was our Scoutmaster.  My dad, with two sons in, put in a lot of time as an Assistant, but didn't need the ego boost of saying 'I'm the boss of a bunch of middle schoolers'.  So one time we're discussing the service projects, and Big Man (he went about 360+lbs) says, "Ideally the project leader brings his lawn chair, he's drinking sodas, he's reading his comics, just keeping an eye on everyone else."  I'm all of 13 and I think, that's the worst definition of leadership I've ever heard.  The project leader should be the hardest working person there; it may not be visible, but he's putting in the effort, putting out fires, being anywhere and everywhere.  And as you said, if it's an all hands situation, they need to know you're not too precious to pick up a broom or a fire hose, whatever the situation calls for.
     
    Many years later, I'm in a physician's lounge, and one guy decides to give his philosophy.  He was a military pilot, now an anesthesiologist (big $$$).  And I remember he said "leadership means never do something another person could do.  You ONLY do things that NO ONE else can do."  I very clearly remember he used the word leadership, and I could not disagree more.  If he came in a room with everyone else trying to do ten things and he saw an overflowing sink with water gushing on to the floor, he would not take the time to turn the faucet off - someone else needs to attend to it.  Perhaps a slight exaggeration, but he was very serious that he considered that 'leadership'.  Good for his income, perhaps, I wouldn't label it leadership.
     
    On your running example, through the twists of life I found myself a platoon sergeant in the Army Reserves for four and change years a while back.  The CO put out a directive, bring your workout uniform every time, as we will conduct PT for an hour every weekend.  Some wise guys (and gals) figure, if I don't bring my workout clothes, they won't make me exercise.  Think again - you can work out in your regular uniform, belt, heavy blouse, cap, all of it.  And you can run with your boots on, AND - I will stay in my duty uniform and run right beside you.  This is when I could still run two miles in about 12:00, which hugely impressed them, no idea why. Anyway, one of the first times someone tried that, I took them to the running trail (CO let me pick the workout), I did not change into PT clothes, stayed in my uniform and did the workout, including running, with the boots on.  And so did everyone else, in whatever uniform they had.  Needless to say, no one tried that excuse again, unless they were new to the unit.  As you said, I will never ask/order you to do something I am unwilling to do myself.  You shouldn't have to play that card too often, but I personally believe it makes a significant difference when motivating people in your charge.  Lead from the front, not from the rear.
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    straitshooter got a reaction from KTG119 in USA All-Time Ranking Update   
    Glad someone else picked up on this.  Given that Gable's wrestling career is arguably the most documented and publicized to the wider world, this was an amazingly uninformed comment.  One thing I always wonder about with men in his age group, particularly with blowhard politicians (D or R), but also tough guy athletes, why didn't he get drafted and serve in the military?  In Gable's case, it is my understanding that even as he finished his college career, no military physician would sign off on his physical - his knees were wrecked, among other things.  I believe Gable said in an interview once, no, let's not dwell on my surgeries and all that, I had high school buddies who went overseas and came back worse than me...  I suppose Ray Brinzer, Cooch1 or others who went live with him could weigh in, but my understanding is when he went in the wrestling room he willed himself to ignore such things, but to say he never had injuries is wildly off base.
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