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    J. Cox Olympic Weight?

    I doubt it in most cases. I'm guessing guys will be able to do trials for both, so there would be no reason not to put their hats in the ring for the Olympics--cuz, you know, it's the Olympics. I mean, even if J'Den or Green feel they can never make the lower weight option again, it seems they'd at least make a go at 97 and 74.
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    World Champs vs MMA Champ

    Others have hinted at these ideas, but a basic summary is this: 1. "Beast" type guys from wrestling backgrounds dominated the early years of MMA even with very few submission or striking skills 2. High-level wrestling still provides arguably the strongest base for any MMA fighter 3. The days of unskilled, single-discipline fighters in top MMA organizations is long, long gone. "Beast" grinders with limited submission and striking skills now lose more than they win at the top level and mostly don't last because they're boring to watch for the average fan. Everyone now can defend standard, wrestling-style takedowns, even against elite Olympic-level wrestlers. Wrestling-background fighters that have success have developed high-level striking, submission defense and attacks, and high-level MMA-adapted wrestling skills (i.e. takedowns in a chain off of their own strikes and takedowns as perfectly timed reactions to opponents' strikes). Coming back to the original question: COULD wrestling world champs become MMA fighters that could compete at the highest level? Of course. Would they without high-level skills right off the bat? Those of us that watch MMA have seen too many really high-level ex-wrestlers get knocked out cold or put to sleep by submissions off their own shots to believe anyone in the world would walk in unskilled like in 1995 and have immediate high-level success.
  3. Just realized Minghu Liu of China that Fausz took out 9-4 in the quarters is the guy who went toe-to-toe with 2017 world champ Takahashi at 57 at worlds a few weeks ago. He fell 7-5 and never got brought back into the repechage when Takahashi fell to this year's champ Uguev.
  4. Tough guy. Wrestled at senior world's, beating Iran's #1 Emami before getting put out 2-1 by 2017 world champ Iakobishvili.
  5. Finals start at 11am eastern/8am pacific. He'll be the very last match of 15 matches. I'm not sure if they've been using 2 mats for the bronze matches or not. If so, I'd guess 12:30 or 12:45 start time for his match based on past tournament finals sessions' pace. If they're using only one mat, it will be sometime after 1pm. Maybe even close to 1:30.
  6. Hemida draws Andriatze of Georgia in the semi's. Not so many accolades there for Andriatze. The junior world champ and Russian #3 Gamidov will be the interesting one in the final if he can reach it. Fausz's Iranian opponent, Sadeghikoukandeh, was a 2015 junior world champ and was more recently 5th at the senior-level Asian championships.
  7. I'm running out of hands to count the number of times I've seen stout Mongolians make it look like one of our usually dynamic guys has no interest in scoring. It always feels like it's down to 25% balance/footwork and 75% hand control. Martin couldn't set up anything of substance at all. Sadly, this weight is not one Mongolia does well in internationally and Ganbaatar is down the pecking order a couple slots. Not a fantastic loss in terms of quality of opponent. Hopefully Martin learns from the several times he was made to look "freestyle" silly in his two matches and comes back stronger. He would be so fun to watch as a true freestyler if he can grow into it.
  8. Summary so far: 8 of 10 reach the quarterfinals and a ninth (Hidlay) having perhaps our 2nd or 3rd best single-match performance in the tight loss to Baev. Moore for gold and Mueller for bronze later today. 4 quarterfinalists upcoming.
  9. Brunner over Gergen of Romania in a quick tech. He'll probably have a Ukrainian in the quarters.
  10. In Round of 16 action for our second group this morning, Hemida, Martin, and Fausz all win. Martin looked impressive in moments, but made a couple mistakes too; namely, he stepped right into a giant 4-pointer that brought the Uzbek Shapiev back into a match Martin led 9-0. He held on to win 9-6. Smythe got controlled 6-2 by Rowe of Canada. Probably the least impressive performance of the 9 guys that have wrested so far. He'll most certainly not be brought back into the repechage. Brunner up momentarily and then the quarterfinals. Martin v. Ganbaatar of Mongolia Hemida v. Jabrailov of Moldova Fausz v. Liu of China
  11. Mueller with the surprise of the morning in the repechage matches, taking out Sarlak of Iran, 16-15. As previously mentioned, he'll have Zou of China for bronze. Zou took out Sadulaev and Andreu Ortega yesterday, so he's the real deal. Interesting test for Mueller. Hidlay falls 4-4 after being up 4-0. Probably slowed his attacks a little too much late, allowing Tazhigali of Kazakhstan to get a rhythm going and score a couple times. Tazhigali then lost 3-2 to Ibodov of Uzbekistan. The highlight of this tournament for Hidlay is definitely the 6-5 close call to Baev of Russia, who would absolutely be a medal contender at the senior level. Baev whitewashed both Tazhigali and Ibodov by 10-0 scores.
  12. Well, Moore advances easily over Dede and the others fall. Sadly, McFadden had Shapiev there for the taking and gave up a significant lead late. He waited way too long to push the pace then went completely defensive instead of continuing his attack late. In the middle few minutes, he owned the match because Shapiev couldn't score as long as McFadden attacked.
  13. Moore techs the Canadian Randhawa to earn our 4th quarterfinal ticket. He'll have Dede of Turkey or Almentay of Kazakhstan. Both have a lot of senior-level experience with decent results. Almentay was a world junior bronze 3 years ago.
  14. In the quarters, McCrystal will have Ghiasi Cheka of Iran. McFadden will likely have Shapiev of Uzbekistan (world junior runner-up last year). Mueller will get senior-level Asian bronze medalist Hasegawa (Japan) or Sarlak (Iran).
  15. Mueller wins his R16 match over Capellan of Canada, 13-3 in about 4 minutes.