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Everything posted by maligned

  1. The second quarter has literally no one that would sniff top 8 in an NCAA-style seeded bracket with wrestle backs. Seven of the top 8 are in the bottom half--8 of 9 if we include Seabass.
  2. Olympics use the same model. There are only byes in this case because there are 28 guys and 4 of them have to get byes. Two automatically go to the two seeds. In the Olympics, they still place them the same--but there are exactly 16 guys, so no byes.
  3. A positive spin on how the bracket could progress: If you know you're going to face Bekbulatov, second might be the best match to face him. Rasim in the first round will be a real opponent, but he's probably 7th or 8th best of what I would have considered the 8 genuine contenders to qualify for Tokyo. You're awake after that match, but you get a long rest because there are so many round of 32 and round of 16 matches to be contested. He'll probably have a full 2 hours or so to recover and get ready to rock. If you get over that hump, you then face Ogannesyan or maybe the upstart Rivera in another match at a similar level to Rasim--a real opponent, but one that JO should win. Then he'll get the Lomtadze/Skriaban/Gadzhiev survivor--most likely Skriaban or Gadzhiev, who will have just finished back-to-back wars against the other two from that group. Don't get me wrong. There's zero space for a slip up in 4 matches. But if you have to face that gauntlet, I like the order and timing compared to some other scenarios.
  4. Good point. Didn't even notice it was him for Puerto Rico vs Ogannesian
  5. Numbering is already listed so they're essentially out. I summarized JO's draw in another thread
  6. Bracket order numbers have been assigned. There's actual content to discuss now.
  7. If you're not familiar with bracketing procedures, there are 28 guys in this case. Put TS1 at the top with a bye. Put TS2 at the bottom with a bye. Then reverse fill round of 32 matches from the bottom starting with the highest numbers from the participant list. I'm sure brackets will be released shortly if you cant be bothered
  8. Bracketing numbers are now listed on the OG qualifier page even though they havent officially listed the bracket. JO has Rasim of Bulgaria then Bekbulatov. He'd have Ogannesian of Ukraine in the quarters and either Gadzhiev, Lomtadze, or Skriaban in the semis. Literally every top guy is in the bottom half except the Turk Kilicsallyan
  9. Just got on to ask the same thing
  10. It's not that cut and dried. Bekbulatov would be one of the medal favorites in Tokyo and JO has a 50-50 shot of facing him before reaching the final in the strict random system this week. On the other hand, there are 3 basically automatic wins he could face in the 16-man bracket in Tokyo. If he draws one of them, he literally only has to win one other match to be automatically in a bronze match.
  11. Huh? You and the others who responded to my comparison missed my point. I was saying the non-difference between Oliver and McKenna is the same as the virtual non-difference between Khinch and his replacement. Saying Khinch being gone means it's now a weak bracket is like someone from another country saying the bracket is weakened if we swap McKenna in for Oliver. Neither swap affects the bracket much at all.
  12. He wasn't a favorite. That's what I feel like people are misunderstanding. Rundown of his most recent performances the last 2 years: failed to qualify the weight at the euro qualifier, got teched by Yianni in France, got 20th at 2020 Euros, got 22nd at 2019 worlds, and got 9th at the 2019 Euros. He's never been top tier at 65. He had solid results at 61 and was amazing at 57 when he was young. If people think the bracket next week will be weak, that's fine; but it's barely weaker by Khinch not being there and a solid option from a loaded nation like Georgia replacing him.
  13. Khinchigashvili hasn't done much recently and has never been upper tier up at 65kg. It's a very slight dropoff to their next couple guys and virtually no impact on overall bracket quality. It's like if the rest of the world would claim it's a depleted bracket if McKenna had to replace JO.
  14. Ha..I was a snot-nosed teenager that didnt realize much of what i was watching other than the US. It was a prelims session at 100kg, so I had to have seen him. I definitely felt all the cowbell commotion near me every time anybody in red, white, and green stepped onto the mat.
  15. Saw one session in '96. Kendall Cross, Kurt Angle, et al.
  16. I appreciate the analysis. I agree that he'll face a couple matches that will have us on pins and needles.
  17. I agree that with others that he paced himself better than in the past. But if I'm a fan of his, I'm still concerned at him not appearing to be filling out 86kg physically any better than a couple years ago--and that he was still bent over breathing a little heavily with his hands on his knees in the first period a couple times despite his slower pace. Those physical concerns more than technique or tactics are still what would prevent him from beating Taylor this summer.
  18. Yes, but the plan is still to have Japanese fans.
  19. Seven, if that's the cart you're trying to place prematurely. Two this year plus 2022-2024.
  20. Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jo-breaks-down-his-olympic-trials-matches-weight-cut/id1475498491?i=1000515896629 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/53cq9DEyQiQD6S53GniLPN?si=QEibiSFLQX-FyS7APOSYmw
  21. Amazing episode if you're into the nitty gritty of the techniques and tactics in these high level matches. He's super intellectual and detailed. Really fun listen.
  22. For sure. Zain and Metcalf determination and engine have a ceiling without dynamic scoring and counter ability. But with both, like in the cases of Dake, Cox, Taylor, Snyder, Burroughs--you get world champions. Without that famous US engine, the collective title count would be much less.
  23. Other countries just cannot grasp the metabolic conditioning laboratory that is a top high school or virtually any college wrestling room in America. Folk style, control-based wrestling is incredibly taxing and the culture of extreme conditioning and the camaraderie around it in a wrestling room breeds top level athletes on the farthest ends of the world-class fitness spectrum. This base from a young age in terms of training intensity know-how, mentality, and muscular and aerobic fitness is immeasurable. We're going to keep producing guys like Nick Lee who jump straight out of folk season and are able to bang with the best in the world in large part due to other-worldly gas tanks and the confidence and persistence that breeds.
  24. Culture drives institutional makeup and institutions propagate culture, so I think we're all going to be mentioning similar issues from different angles if we start to make a list.
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