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  1. Jordan beat Smith in the finals in '85, and then beat Randall in finals in '86.
  2. I really hate to be negative and I don't know a ton about him but 'my hunch' is he will be closer to Tom Curl than say Big Bruce at NCAA level. note-way back when as an amateur NFL prospect evaluater I thought Earl Campbell would be a flop in the NFL.
  3. ^ Correct. Willy Short wrestled 150 and lost in OT to Mac in '94 Big Tens. #2 seed at NCAAs but went 2-2. (thanks wrestlingstats.com)
  4. Johnny Thompson is one of the 2 time champs I would rank above 3 timer Rosholt. Whether that ends up top 10 or not I'm not sure (I haven't analyzed to that degree).
  5. One of those situations where a 3x Champion and 4x All-American is continually not given his due. The 3x'er list is very short. He did it during the decade. I think #5 is accurate. I don't know about not giving him his due, it's just my opinion. I think Cael is obviously #1, Abas a pretty clear #2 and then it gets interesting. But for me Rosholt is too high at #5, there are 2 time champs I would have ranked before him.
  6. w/o thinking too hard 1st thought is Rosholt is too high.
  7. KTG119

    Dake

    has anyone else even been a D1 AA at 4 different weights? I can think of a few that did it at 3 (Larkin for one) but not 4.
  8. in state rivals, conference dual, both ranked top 25 at time, all came down to heavyweight. not bad... #15 Virginia Tech (2-1) 18, #22 Virginia (2-1) 13 125: #9 Matt Snyder (VA) def. Ty Mitch, 9-8 (TB1) 133: #7 Devin Carter (VT) dec. Matt Nelson, 11-5 141: #18 Nick Nelson (VA) dec. Zach Neibert, 10-5 149: Shawn Harris (VA) dec. Chris Mears, 5-3 157: #5 Jesse Dong (VT) dec. Jedd Moore, 8-2 165: #14 Pete Yates (VT) dec. Nick Sulzer, 8-2 174: Chris Moon (VT) dec. Billy Coggins, 5-1 184: #14 Jon Fausey (VA) maj. dec. John Dickson, 11-3 197: #16 Nick Vetterlein (VT) dec. Ryan Malo, 5-3 285: Chris Penny (VT) dec. Ethan Hayes, 7-5 (SV)
  9. Oldskool, totally agree with you that most of the top guys at NCAAs have wrestled for a very long time. I was more giving my 2 cents on what I think is often going on when people say 'burn out'. And for the guys who do stick it out and do well at NCAA level, there's a ton more guys who also started young and quit, got hurt, 'burned out' (whatever definition you want to use), etc. It's always interesting to me to see how things play out as guys transition from HS to college, and it always takes me back to there are no 'locks' (ok, at least very few). Slightly off tangent here perhaps, but here in VA, I think if you had looked at the Great Bridge guys and said Jon Siordes would end up with as many AA finishes as Martin, C Staylor, Bond, D Frish, and J Frish COMBINED people would have said you were crazy. Combination of factors there and I can't say if burn out was part or not, but you just rarely can call it for sure. all that said, good luck to Tsirtsis
  10. I think 'burn out' as often as not occurs when kids that have been wrestling forever, and winning all the time, start losing matches to kids they have beaten before or that have less prior accomplisments. Fast starters losing to late arrivers and it's like WTF am I doing this for? not saying this t-shirt falls into this, don't know enough to make a guess.
  11. you have two University of Virginia wrestlers listed
  12. yeah I was just looking at the Tech schedule and it says starters to Midlands. Scuffle is actually not even listed on the schedule at all-which doesn't necessarily mean non starters wouldn't be going, guys often get matches at events not on 'team' schedule. But maybe there is more to it?
  13. exactly, and wrestling is 90% mental and the other half is physical.
  14. Gable ran off 100+ in a row. Not too many else have done that. tecnically Smith won 3 in 4 years (probation) would Sanderson have won as true frosh? just sayin'....there are no absolute answers in these discussions. different eras, weights, levels of comp, etc. Hell I have Mark Schultz way up there but he 'only' won 3 and DNP in his 1st year...but every guy he beat in finals was a 4 x AA and between them they finished with 4 titles and 10 finals appearances. And then he did ok in free too.
  15. dude he be the man if he did this 'Gable had 3 chances to win titles and won 4'. Typo, got it. Top 10/5 for dominance.
  16. I am hoping W&L will make strides under the new coach but I would not be surprised to see Ferrum move quickly past them.
  17. agreed, Va has always had a fair amount of D1 programs in comparison to other states, but not many options other than D1....and D1 ain't the best option for everyone.
  18. apologies if this has been posted already....found it over on virginiawrestling.com. Guys, I am pleased to announce that Ferrum College (located in Ferrum, VA) has added a wrestling program. I have been selected to be its 1st Head Coach. We are going to be a NCAA Division 3 program. Located in the foothills of the Blue Ridge Mountains of Southwestern Virginia, Ferrum is a four-year college surrounded by mountains, lakes, rivers and state parks, and numerous small towns. We offer 33 areas of study ranging from business, teacher education, enviromental studies, and sports administration. It has campus-wide wireless Internet, small class sizes, and a dedicated faculty. The 1,500 men and women who attend Ferrum come from 25 states and a dozen countries, and 80-plus percent live on Ferrum's 700-acre campus. Nearly half the students here are athletes. I believe that in a few shorts years, Ferrum College will be a national power in the NCAA wrestling world. If you are interested in being apart and building something special at Ferrum, please give me a call or email. It is NOT to late to get in this fall! Nathan Yetzer Ferrum College Head Wrestling Coach 540-577-0467 cell yetzerwrestling@gmail.com
  19. Dustin was never going to lose another match after his freshman year. Troy Letters was looking like he would end up as a 3 time champ, 1 time runner-up. Heck Jordan Oliver was going to a 3 timer until this other guy came along... just a few...
  20. I think Herbert and Askren maybe more than Herbert and Varner
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