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Zelph

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  1. Ed Ruth will win more than one World Title. David Taylor will have a tough time winning even one. He won't get past Jordan Burroughs until the Champ retires. Then he has Kyle Dake - IF Dake can come back from his injury.

     

    Ed Ruth is smart on the mat, talented and works hard - same with Taylor.

     

    Big difference is that Ruth will beat anyone the US throws at him to qualify while Taylor will hit the two roadblocks.


  2. Cael, taking SEVEN years off from competition and still placing 5th in worlds shows, yet again, how great he was.

     

    In Freestyle for the US, Mark was Great, KJ was excellent, Cael was good. The fact Cael chose to quit does not allow us to see what he could have been. A career on the mat too short to be in the same room as Kevin Jackson and Mark Schultz and way short of John Smith. Also short of Jordan Burroughs today.

     

    Cael was very good but a short career on the mat hurts his international credentials. The fact he was the best of a lower grade US team at the time does not put him in elite company.


  3. CAel is too much a pretty boy, not a killer like Mark Schultz. Cael is lucky he never had to wrestle Mark. Very lucky he never had to meet up with Greg Stroble.

     

    Wrestling as Cael did and his whining about how the refs were unfair to him - MMA would see him with his head handed to him on a regular basis.

     

    An excellent wrestler but definately not a fighter. Leave that to Schultz and keep Cael coaching the PornState child molestors.


  4. Old school and current practices - give the old guys todays training and such and they would still be champions. It is the heart, not just the technique.

     

    Mike the Bike Hailwood vs King Kenny Roberts on motorcycles. Given similar training you would see Mike challenging Kenny(originator of dragging the knee for balance in turns).

     

    You use the technique needed at the time.

     

    John Smith - would be great in any era as would Alexander Karelin, Satiev and many others. They would face the competition and rise to the occasion. They would be using the techniques of the time adapted to their physical attributes.


  5. Two names stand out from Japan. Osamu Watanabe and Yojo Uetake.

    Am more familiar with Yojo as he wrestled for Oklahoma State, 3x NCAA champ, 2x Outstanding wrestler and came back to his Junior year sporing Olympic Gold.

     

    Watanabe was never taken down tho I don't know if 'never scored on' is accurate in the Wikipedia article.

     

    Anyone on the forums who saw both in their prime?

     

    Or possibly get us to more match info on them - maybe matches online somewhere?

     

     

    Osamu Watanabe

     

    In 1962, he took first at the freestyle world championships and followed with first place finishes at that year's Asia Games as well as the following year's world championship. Then, at age 24, before his home nation, he took a gold medal in the 1964 Olympics held in Tokyo.[1] He gave up no points during the tournament, spending a total of 10 minutes on the mat altogether. Perhaps most importantly, he retired afterwards with an unbeaten record of 186-0 (without having given up any points through any of his matches), making him the only modern Olympian in any style of wrestling to go unbeaten throughout the entirety of his career. He is also known to take on extremely talented young wrestlers from around the world. (from Wikipedia)

     

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    Yojiru Uetake

     

    Uetake competed at the 1964 Summer Olympics in Tokyo where he received a gold medal in Freestyle wrestling, the bantamweight class.[1]

     

    He also received a gold medal in 1968.[2]

     

    He wrestled for Oklahoma State University, and was undefeated in three college seasons. He is a member of the USA Wrestling Hall of Fame.

     

    http://www.examiner.com/list/meet-all-t ... iro-uetake

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