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meloserio

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  1. Pretty sure the regionals are as good as the people signing up for them. If more people treat them as what they are, which is a WTT qualifier, more people may start competing in a regional instead of the Open. I don't see what the issue is, if USA wrestling has designated it an official qualifier, both fans and athletes should take it seriously.
  2. My biggest concern with Hall is the amount of high level matches he has wrestled at such a young age. If his body holds up, I think he can certainly make some noise once he goes to college and starts wrestling at the senior level. Congrats to Mark and I can't wait to see his next move!
  3. Bringing this thread back since we can add Logie's 104.5 to the all-time list. And to this fellow, yeah man you're totally right. Dan Gable and J Jaggers are equally as good. They have the same amount of titles, which is apparently all that matters.
  4. Stop, just stop. All I wanted to do was see who the six-time state champs were, not turn this into a referendum about holding kids back. Stop it.
  5. Now that all the high school tournaments have concluded, I was trying to figure out who Mark Hall could potentially be joining next season as a six time state champ. I was able to come up with these names so far: Kirk Wallman, South Dakota Michael Sutton, Alabama Logan Storley, South Dakota Brandon Womack, Alabama Obviously not every state has a varsity eligibility rule for 6th-7th-8th graders and winning six time doesn't necessarily make you any better than a guy who won two three or four, but it is a pretty special accomplishment. Does anybody know if there are more than these four?
  6. Still though he hasn't wrestled since the Penn St match. Could a returning NCAA finalist miss NCAAs?
  7. For the record, an RPI win does not have to come against another opponent with at least 17 matches. Also, this page provides just about every necessary link to explain anything to do with the D1 championships: http://www.ncaa.org/championships/division-i-wrestling
  8. Your point is valid that he would need 17 matches to be ranked, however, somebody goofed and he actually has exactly 17 as of now. He's 15-2, so whoever had him at 14-2 screwed up. Not sure where you saw that but they gave you incorrect info!
  9. here are the 19 automatic qualifiers http://t.co/gln8HW1tbj
  10. Found the interview with Jason where he laid out his plans for this: http://youtu.be/Gb841zm-RSg
  11. for the record, The Predicament forums were talking abou this months ago... http://thepredicament.proboards.com/thread/16242/dayton-racer-mark-hall-bett
  12. Yeah this is spot on. Mass. Perry lost A LOT (all 14 of their starters in 2013-14 were juniors or seniors) and Austin was on the Brecksville team that lost to them in the DI dual finals. Not only that, but St. Ed's placed 7th in the state tournament last year. SPG will be great like always, as Jordan's career begins to wind down. Also, of the 42 state champs last year, only eight are returning seniors. I have a feeling Ohio will come back up, this is just it regressing to the mean after the outlier years of the Stiebers and Taylors.
  13. Assad is 2-2 vs Jose Rodriguez. Also Franklin Regional is gonna be scary good this year... again.
  14. Where have you seen Zahid wrestling at 182?
  15. Wright scored 23 that year, Ruth 18.5. That brings PSU down to 281.5 Also, since I used Tony Nelson in 2011 and he only scored 9.5, let's use their second scorer in Zach Sanders at 11. This leaves Minny at 237. My point here is, those other teams DIDN'T have Ruth/DT because Cael is a good recruiter. And beyond that, Cael is a good recruiter, because, when using the objective argument of removing the top two hammers from the best teams, his team STILL puts up the most points. The whole point of this thread is whether Cael is a good recruiter or not. OBVIOUSLY any team does well with those two, so the person who in fact actually gets them is the good recruiter. Yes there are instances in which a 17/18 year old decommints from a verbal, or their parents want them to go somewhere else, or their gf decides to go somewhere else, or another school offers them more money. But when using the facts, which for us is NCAA tournament scoring, Penn St puts up the most points year after year because Cael can not only recruit hammers, but those extra two or three guys that can get top four and score 10 or 15 points for him. That is what makes him a good recruiter.
  16. FIFY Penn St 289 , DT/Ruth 194.5 Just to prove how dumb your argument is... Penn St: 483.5 - (Taylor's 101 + Ruth's 96.5) = 286 Minnesota: 385.5 - (Nelson's 75.5 + Ness 3years of 53.5) - 2011Thorn's 18.5 = 238.5 Okie St: 352.5 - 46.5(Perry/Dieringer) - 44 (Oliver/Perry) - 38.5(Oliver/Byers) - 45(Oliver/Foster) = 178.5 Iowa: 345.5 - 33(Ramos/St. John) - 40(Ramos/St. John) - 45.5(Ramos/McDonough) - 37.5(McDonough) = 189.5 Cornell: 314 - 34.5(Garrett/Dean) - 36.5(Dake/Bosak) - 50.5(Dake/Simaz) - 42.5(Dake/Bosak) = 150 Any questions?
  17. In support of that point (and these numbers come directly from trackwrestling since 2012), Dylan Ness + Tony Nelson over the past 3 years = 119.5. That puts them at 266. Shall we remove Matt McDonough, Jordan Oliver, Derek St. John and Alex Dieringer as well? Let's see how that goes. Yes, DT and Ed were superduper studs. But the facts back up that Cael's teams just put up more points. That makes him a good recruiter in my book.
  18. Some numbers for you since 2011, most cumulative team points at NCAAs: 1) Penn St 483.5 2) Minnesota 385.5 3) Oklahoma St 352.5 4) Iowa 345.5 5) Cornell 314
  19. Newsflash: going unbeaten in a combat sport is impossible, due to the concept of a fall, knockout or submission. And oh yeah, father time is undefeated. The person who wins the tournament is the person who wins the tournament. Are there extenuating circumstances, yes. I always said if Darrion Caldwell doesn't get hurt, Dake never wins 4 titles. But you know what? He did. And now we remember Kid Dynamite for 4 titles in 4 different weights. Part of this and all combat sports is injuries, and age, and timing. All you can do is wrestle the guy put in front of you.
  20. Does anyone have a comprehensive list of states that have won junior duals in freestyle? I was able to find winners going back to 2001: 2014: Oklahoma 2013: Illinois 2012: Illinois 2011: Illinois 2010: Illinois 2009: Ohio 2008: Illinois 2007: Illinois 2006: Illinois 2005: Iowa 2004: Ohio 2003: Ohio 2002: Oklahoma 2001: Ohio
  21. Zahid's twitter name is @zvalencia97 because, per the Fargo finalist biographies he was, born May 11, 1997. Anthnoy's twitter name was @avalencia96 because, again per the Fargo finalist biographies, he was born born May 13, 1996. Now back to our regularly scheduled programming.
  22. I know we have the list of qualifiers, but does anyone know when the list of actual participants will be released? Obe Blanc and Kyle Dake are ones that stick out that are on the qualifiers list but won't be competing. I know brackets won't be released until after everyone weighs in.
  23. After the stellar performance of our boys at the Pan Am games, two seniors about to graduate (Kyle Snyder and Bo Nickal) took home gold at the International Junior Champions tournament in Turkey. We already knew this, but Tom Ryan and Cael are getting some studs this fall.
  24. Taylor has said he is only focusing on 74kg. I am very curious to see how they do the seeding for the challenge tournament. Will track be releasing a list of registered wrestlers? Escobedo and Dake both qualified, but it is my understanding Dake is out for sure and Esco probably won't be 100%.
  25. Now that the qualifiers are set, shall we make predictions for WTT? I'll start with 57 kg, I think Escobedo is the only one with a realistic shot of knocking off Hazewinkel. That is, however, pending his full recovery from the knee injury he suffered at the Open against Zach Sanders. Graff could be interesting, he's more of a career freestyler than folkstyle guy, and he'll be big for the weight. Obe Blanc and Nick Simmons could make some noise, but I think they are past their primes at this point and lost the competitive fire necessary to win a tournament like WTT.
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