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  1. Any update on what you mentioned below earlier in the summer...... My dream is 100 D I schools with wrestling by 2024.....it can be done! "1. We are approaching the presidents and admissions officers of all DI Historically All Black Colleges & Universities (most are enrollment driven and many are looking to bolster male enrollment) 2. We are working with a tax consultant to comb thru the tax returns of DI private schools to identify the schools that are most struggling for enrollment and tuition dollars 3. Over the past year, we have met with several university presidents of Division I schools who have expressed interest (We will be meeting with two more presidents over the next 3 weeks) As most people within the wrestling community already know, establishing new DI programs is much more challenging than the other collegiate divisions for the following reasons: 1. The costs are much greater at the DI level (the DI philosophy is much more about focused excellence). In other words, many DI administrations desire to invest more money into fewer teams in hopes they can compete for national titles in all sports 2. Most DI colleges are not enrollment driven so they don’t need to add sports to grow enrollment like many of the non-DI colleges."
  2. Saw this on the california wrestling forum about Fresno St,...... "Boeh is out as AD because of Fund Raising needs. The Fresno Bee had quite a story in it regarding this whole thing and Boeh needs to fulfill his contract ( 3 years remaining ) at about 285K per year as special assisitant to President Castro or he loses the the money. The new AD will have to balance athletics and fundraising in light of the federal decision regarding the O'Bannon case and fundraising was not a strong suit for Boeh. The good new is that wrestling is on the front burner and the womens sport that would be added would be womens water polo. It is closer to happening than people think. Just got home from Fresno St and that was the talk on campus.......... Go Dogs !!!!"
  3. Camden County College (NJCAA) is the 10th school to add varsity wrestling for 2014-15 That's 20 in the last 2 years. In for 2015-16, Adrian College has already announced they will add.....
  4. My hope is that this isn't being used as an excuse for GCU to drop the program. "Grand Canyon University announced today that head wrestling coach R.C. LaHaye and assistant coach Larry Wilbanks have been dismissed for violation of institutional policy. LaHaye joined the program for its inaugural season in 2007-08. Wilbanks was with the program the last five seasons. A search for replacements will begin immediately." Maybe that helps....
  5. I'll explain this to you like you are special... Grand Canyon, Alfred St, along with a few other schools are in transition, from one level to the next. They choose to compete in the ncwa so they have some sort of a post season, even if it's a club level championship. There's a diffrence between a team who chooses to be there and a team who has that as their only option. Ucf has to go to the club championships because they aren't a varsity sport. When GCU is done with their provisional status, they can wrestle in the D I championships. Understand?
  6. He's just being an idiot at this point. Ignore him. Many of the NCWA people are like that......can't take criticism or feel offended if people don't see them as more then club.
  7. Again, you're working in circles. This is the part of the argument where you have come up with some new criteria for what constitutes college wrestling; similar to before, but now you have thrown in the word "varsity." There are NCWA schools that operate under their schools athletic department and are in fact varsity programs by every definition of the word. If you're varsity can compete at the NCAA, NAIA, NJCAA Championships, the you are varsity. If your national championships is the club championships, or the ncwa, you aren't varsity. ncwa is not varsity. The only decent thing about it is that some of the club programs have been elevated to real varsity status, like Southern Virginia was yesterday.
  8. Why was it taken off? Are normal discussions not allowed anymore???
  9. I count 24 in that list. I'm hoping 6-8 add. That would be great.
  10. 1. We are approaching the presidents and admissions officers of all DI Historically All Black Colleges & Universities (most are enrollment driven and many are looking to bolster male enrollment) 2. We are working with a tax consultant to comb thru the tax returns of DI private schools to identify the schools that are most struggling for enrollment and tuition dollars 3. Over the past year, we have met with several university presidents of Division I schools who have expressed interest (We will be meeting with two more presidents over the next 3 weeks) As most people within the wrestling community already know, establishing new DI programs is much more challenging than the other collegiate divisions for the following reasons: 1. The costs are much greater at the DI level (the DI philosophy is much more about focused excellence). In other words, many DI administrations desire to invest more money into fewer teams in hopes they can compete for national titles in all sports 2. Most DI colleges are not enrollment driven so they don’t need to add sports to grow enrollment like many of the non-DI colleges. 3. The big DI-A athletic department budgets are the ones that are most scrutinized in Title IX complaints PT, that is great and exciting news! Thanks for answering the question, and for all you and Mike do. You guys are doing great at the lower levels of bringing wrestling to those schools. Hopefully the NJCAA can add some schools as well.
  11. What's being done by the coaches association to bring D I schools back? Every other division is growing.
  12. They won't be in the NAIA, they'll be in the club division I think I read.
  13. Schools that are adding in 2014-15 Long Island University-Post (NY) Division II Lyon College (Ark.) NAIA Williams Baptist College (Ark) NAIA Ottawa University (KS) NAIA Warner Pacific (OR) NAIA St. Catherine College (KY) NAIA Daniel Webster College (NH) Division III University of the Ozarks (Ark) Division III Huntingdon College (Ala) Division III These 9 schools are adding varsity wrestling this fall. 10 added this past fall. 19 new programs in a 2 year stretch is pretty great. 5 NAIA, 3 D III, 1 D II. Disappointing not to see any Jucos or D I. Hopefully those are coming for the 15-16. Are there any I'm missing?
  14. http://www.post-gazette.com/local/educa ... 1404170241
  15. Lacrosse is a popular add, but wrestling has some very good publicity too right now. All it takes is a few Division I''s to add at the lower tier And the same thing can happen for wrestling that is happening for lacrosse. One advantage we have is our sport is relatively cheap to field, and I'm assuming cheaper then lacrosse. I believe the schools I listed, plus JB idea are the schools that need to be looked at, not the power conferences. Would be nice to see Clemson and Louisville to add however....
  16. Totally agree with you for the most part. There will always be a few exceptions to the rule of course. I read on another forum that the coaches association was coming up with a new plan for D I schools to make it more attractive to add wrestling (they've done such an excellent job with D II, D III and NAIA). Have you heard anything about that Jason?
  17. Here are 22 small Division I schools just from looking at the list who could add based on .... I know this wouldnt get the Iowa, Penn St, or Okie St fans excited, but these are the kind of schools that would add wrestling at the Division I level. Fresno St (Most likely coming back according to those out in Cali) Samford (Wrestling is growing in the south in Socon sponsors the sport)) Arkansas St ( Wrestling continues to grow in Arkansas, has a team at every other level) UC Riverside (Could add a male sport) Univ Of Pacific (CA) (Private school with enrollment at 47% for males) Yale (heard rumors that they would like to bring it back, not sure what old alumni support they have) Drake Univ (Why did they drop in the first place?) UMBC (Decently successful club team. have heard that next male sport they add would be wrestling) Northeastern Univ (A few years ago I thought they were publicly talking about adding?) Univ of Wisc-Milwaukee UM-Kansas City Chicago St (Like to see UMKC and Chicago St add to give the WAC 5 schools with wrestling) Seattle Univ (Washington and Washington St will never add) Univ New Mexico Stony Brook Univ Western Carolina Univ of Tulsa Portland St ( Heard from many AD has talked about dropping football and adding 2 male sports) Austin Peay St (AD is a supporter of wrestling? Thought I read this somewhere) SMU-(If a D I in Texas adds, it seems it will be a private) UT-Pan Am (but if a public in Texas does add, why not a school in the WAC) BYU (Could easily bring back wrestling. Alumni still active I believe in support. This is the school to make a big push) Whatever happen to Clemson & Louisville about adding? I think TCU would be a great add in the Big 12, or even Kansas St. Can't Bowlsby put some pressure on them as the commish? Those are the only 3 schools in the BCS conferences who I could see adding? Anyone from the Pac 12???
  18. Restricted endowment is the only positive vested option for the growth of our sport at the Division 1 level (Some will lead you to believe that the best option is growing programs at the lower collegiate levels and to help/encourage them to make level jumps but that's got issues left and right and isn't reasonable). That said you are correct, university directors are under no morale or legal obligation to accept outside funds, restricted or otherwise. While we are all wrestling enthusiasts, there's a lot of people out there who aren't and there's nothing any of us can do about that. The Fresno State University situation is a prime example. How is the fresno st situation an example of what you're describing?
  19. I wonder which schools are safe and which ones are not. Clarion, Lock Haven and Bloomsburg all have D I programs Shippensburg, Millersville and Kutztown all have D II programs. The crazy thing is that most of these schools offer way more sports for the ladies then men, yet these women are still complaining. Just don't understand.
  20. I totally agree. There are some smaller Division I schools where it would be a good fit. Like I said in my first post, it does not have to be the big conference schools, although one would think it would be easier. I wonder how the coaches association views this and how they proceed. Although most of the growth has been at the non D I level its well known that the coaches association cares most about D I, as they should.
  21. More focus should be on growth then this dual proposal. Division I needs to get to 100 teams. 77 exist, and this is more important then anything else as far as D I goes. When Fresno St adds, I believe this could create momentum for Division I. I know some of you might think 100 is impossible, but I believe there are 23 schools in the Division I that would add. Do they all need to come from the major conferences? No, although that would be the easiest it seems. I know the national wrestling coaches association does a fine job at the lower levels, especially D II, D III and the NAIA. I would like to see more growth at the JUCO level as those are needed, and I think the easiest to add. However, D I is the focus and that's where we need growth the most. What will it take to get to 100 for Division I? Money? Sympathetic administration? Area interest? What kind of help does Mr. Moyer and the coaches association need to make this realistic goal happen?
  22. These numbers may actually be worse than presented. Bloomsburg, Clarion, Edinboro and other DII (PSAC?) schools are DI wrestling programs (as is DIII Franklin & Marshall). Thats very true! Didn't think about that. Use time and resource towards growth, not a concept for switching the national championship.
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