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Jaroslav Hasek

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  1. I thought I heard each side of this graphic would be the two groups. and in each of those groups would be two mini pools of 3. winner of each mini-pool would wrestle each other the other winner within the same group, 2nd place vs 2nd place and 3rd vs third. then in each group you'd have placements 1st thru 6th. I don't know if the mini pools have been created yet. and please anyone in the know, please correct me if i'm wrong. I definitely heard that each team would get three matches. the two teams in their mini pool and then the cross pool match, all within each group. The good news is Missouri and Iowa are in the same group. so it will be possible they see each other, no matter how the pools are drawn up. they'll only be guaranteed to wrestle each other if theyre in the same mini pool.
  2. i was calling newbie silly for thinking Flo's strategy was to trick people. it's obviously not, and it's foolish to think it is. i never said anyone who got confused by our watch parties was silly. you either misunderstood my post or are just trolling. for the record, its cool either way. anyway, our data includes measuring how long people stay viewing the watch parties (and all the other streams). if everyone was clicking on the watch party and then quickly turning it off, we'd notice it. but most people aren't. they are, instead, watching for a long periods of time and engaging with the watch party chat function in the app. which is why we are continuing to do them. maybe that changes and we stop doing them. only time will tell!
  3. With great difficulty! This year's results are going to factor in the most. The Griffith win is huge, but Ramirez also lost to Matt Lee at the Kaloust Bearcat Open this year. Lee has a loss to Casella at the same tournament and no ranked wins (from this year or the last two) so that is going keep Ramirez from being ranked to highly. I'm guessing he'll end up somewhere in the low teens. he'll moved up or down quickly depending on how he does against his next ranked opponents.
  4. won't know for sure until sometime tomorrow but I expect the top 5 will go Marinelli > Wick > O'Toole > Griffith > Wentzel. will be giving it a lot of thought though so am definitely interested in hearing all the arguments.
  5. As many people have pointed out, Watch Parties are not a new concept. they are relatively new to Flo but we've been doing them since March. the plan is obviously NOT to trick people into clicking because they think it's going to be able to watch the event live. lol that's just silly. people are turning in and staying engaged. when people stop doing that, that watch parties will stop. I don't expect that to happen anytime soon tho!
  6. Jason is totally correct here, but I can understand someone tuning in hoping for play by play. we could be more clear about communicating what the watch party is. I appreciate JBluegill's feedback! also sometimes Flo does acquire audio media rights to events and we will do play-by-play. still no video on those tho.
  7. i think i found it. i'm guessing folks are referring to this long lost gem from 2014? impressed anyone still remembers a hot take blog post from 7 year ago! I had never seen it before. fun read but from a different era. fairly confident you won't see content like that on Flo ever again.
  8. do you (or anyone else) happen to have a link to this article? i don't remember it. guessing it was from a while. I'd be interested in reading it! thanks to everyone who tuned into the watch party. according to our metrics last night was a huge success so looks like we're going to keep them on the schedule. next one is in two weeks after Turkey Day!
  9. its an improvement imo. and an important step toward getting to having a tiebreaker decide the match at the end of regulation. as more and more people are noticing, matches are more exciting when someone is losing with time running out. NCAA also still very badly needs a step out penalty. that would drastically improve the action in sudden victory.
  10. 1) this is true and i should've given them credit for that. was thinking of all the duals and tournaments that go on espn+ but fair point on the tourney. tho I'd also add that espn invests far less into the wrestling championships than they do other sports' championships that provide far more than 2 hours of programming a year. 2) I see things differently. espn is paying for tier 1 and 2 rights (so football and basketball) and then requiring the schools to throw in their tier 3 for free. espn wants the programming for espn+ so they can gather info on it and keep it out of other companies' hands. the latest ACC deal even had a provision requiring every school to invest in their in house live production capacity for their non-revenue sports all on their own dime. espn can do this because of their big money hose they're directing at the schools. the change in strategy for espn and BTN (and their partner, Fox) came about because of emergence of direct to consumer "over the top" apps like espn+. the Longhorn Network was a fiasco but it doesn't really factor into the tier 3 media rights deals imo. in the past, espn et al didn't care when schools made side deals for their non-rev sports. now they are shutting those down and forcing schools to leave money (and promotional partners) on the table. its the Walmart or Amazon approach to sport media. not hating on the strategy but it is what it is. Pac-12 does have their own network for their tier 3 sports but I have no idea what their long term strategy is for their media rights. I don't think anyone does to be honest. they failed to secure a national partner like the Big Ten did with Fox and I think wanted to rely on regional sports networks, but the business model for those cable channels is collapsing right now. will be interesting to see what that conference does going forward. 3) this is all true but very tangental to our conversation, unless i'm missing something. without big time revenue or popularity, the only D1 wrestling programs that are being added are at schools that are using sports to help drive enrollment. hoping that changes in the future but I think we're a long ways out from a power 5 school adding a wrestling program. would be delighted to be wrong about that tho. I don't know exactly what our content plan is going to be for that event yet but yes, it is a major event and I'm sure it will be covered by Flo. hell yeah thats exactly right. in other news related to the so-called "watch party" tonight: Cyon will also be there.
  11. the 'watch party' concept is a fairly recent development for Flo but from the very beginning of its existence Flo has covered events that were not streamed on Flo. a lot of people confuse 'promotion' and 'coverage' tho so its understandable. we get it a lot. some events Flo doesn't stream will get a lot of coverage, some very little, or none, but every major wrestling events gets covered extensively. promotion is entirely different and if we don't stream it, there most likely won't be a budget for it. its how it works for pretty much every media company. espn may cover a boxing or bellator fight they don't broadcast that is important to the sport but they are going to spend zero dollars marketing or promoting it. espn used to get lots of complaints from the ice hockey community for hardly even covering the stanley cup playoffs, let alone promoting it. but now that espn has big media deal with the NHL with lots of exclusive broadcast rights, they're going to be providing lots of coverage and promotion across their channels. the NHL commissioner even joked about it. this is 100% correct. espn is squatting on all sorts of great wrestling content and investing approximately zero resources into it. hopefully that changes, with either the unbundling of the conference contracts that allow schools to once again shop around their tier 3 rights, or with espn taking notice and putting some money and resources behind their wrestling programming. both would be good for the sport imo, regardless of if that entails more streaming rights for Flo or not.
  12. getting great material for tomorrow. thank you everyone for your feedback.
  13. if only we Flo could be the monopoly we are sometimes called, then we wouldn't have to make up excuses to stay relevant. alas, BTN, ESPN, NBC and Rokfin have exclusive media rights to some of the biggest and most popular wrestling events which precludes them from being streamed on Flo. Flo still has a pretty kick ass college lineup tho, imo. CKLV, Scuffle, EIWAs, UNI, Wyoming, South Dakota State, Drexel, Utah Valley, Northern Colorado, Edinboro, Air Force and we just recently signed a deal with Lehigh. Plus UWW, USAW, some other college events, all the high school events etc, etc. Your milage may vary tho. anyway, I'll be on this so-called "watch party" on friday with @Jon_Kozak the only other person at Flo that still frequents this message board, and we're going to talk about every single mean thing you all say about us on the stream.
  14. It was an excellent match! Also the link works, in your post above and also in FloArena and in the videos tab of the event page on Flo. I encourage everyone to watch it. It'll also be up on UWW's youtube page in about a week or so for people in the US who don't have Flo subscriptions. Sometimes the live thumbnail doesn't display the correct match if that was what you were referring to about having the wrong match displayed. in tournaments that run on FloArena it usually works smoothly but for UWW events they have their own tournament software and we have to figure out a way to 'mirror' what UWW displays in real time. definitely not always perfect. time, human power and resources are being devoted to making it better!
  15. Lehigh wrestle-off results (link).
  16. ESPN produces that event and owns the media rights to it so that's a question I think you'd want to direct at them, however, If Flo did had the rights to the NCAAs then of course any failure in the production process would be catastrophic. Unfortunately there was a real world example of this back in 2017 when the site crashed during the Penn State at Oklahoma State dual. My first week on the job was literally two weeks later at EIWAs. The mood in Austin at the time was... not great.
  17. Nowadays every stream that goes out live is saved as a 'full event replay' to avoid the problems we ran into at 2019's WCWA's. My guess (and I wasn't there so can't say anything for sure) is that the internet issues at the venue meant that Arena couldn't be linked to the stream to auto archive the event, which meant that match files had to be physically pulled from the computers at the event and manually uploaded and labeled. Hence only the semifinals and finals made it on to the site. It's certainly unfortunate and regrettable but I also understand that there was a chance the event would not be able to be streamed at all. And it's true that events get different levels of production and more resources and attention than others, but that determination has nothing to do with whether it's a men's or women's event. Final X gets a different level of production than WCWAs. Other companies are free to bid on the streaming rights to that tournament and invest more into the production. It's a fun event though so I hope Flo keeps doing it. I don't have an excuse or reason behind your bad experience with our customer service department. I'm sorry if they were rude or dismissive.
  18. I don't like it either and have voiced my displeasure internally many times! All i can say is it's a process and I'm hoping we see improvements soon!
  19. I believe there was a problem with the internet in the venue in 2019. I don't have all the details so I can't tell you exactly what happened but we archived everything in 2018 and 2020, it certainly wasn't that we didn't have the intention to archive all the matches in 2019.
  20. Relying solely on IOC money and not finding media partners that help invest in the production, marketing, promotion and development of the sport is exactly what got the IOC to drop wrestling from their programming back in 2013. It's not a good strategy imho. Like any other media company, Flo has limited resources, and I totally understand people criticizing Flo for not allocating their resources more heavily on the events and wrestlers that they would prefer see get more coverage. But it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever for Flo not to want to see every possible aspect of the sport grow and flourish. I don't think Flo is perfect but I'm quite proud of the resources we've devoted to, for example, women's wrestling. It's been quite enjoyable to contribute to all the USAW and UWW events that have featured all three styles. And helping put the WNO women's card together will definitely be one of the highlights of the year for me. I feel comfortable speaking for the entire team that we're all looking forward to all the future events Flo will cover, at the high school, college and international level. I also welcome any other company, institution or individual to help cover the sport. It's great to see more and more people show interest in wrestling. Even better if any of them help illuminate areas of weakness where Flo can improve. Hope that all made sense and didn't sound combative. We're ultimately all on the same team!
  21. Content, marketing and promotion aside, UWW receives money from Flo, as do all of Flo's event partners, which allows them to invest more of their time and resources into their events and the sport. UWW is currently looking for more media partners in other countries so that they don't have people watching the event on their own site. Ideally they'd sell the rights to cover every corner of the globe.
  22. great list. wouldn't change a thing. 10 for 10.
  23. more info here. really hope we see Gable back on the mat against Zare. I think there are a lot of obstacles in the way still but it would provide some extra hype for sure.
  24. fair critique, especially when Mike ask if David if he's taking matches with Yazdani for granted. i'm unaware of instances of when anyone at Flo aid that it would be an "easy match" but i can see where one would get that impression if we're all consistently picking DT to win for the fourth time in a row. altho its also possible someone said it would be easy and I didn't notice, I don't consume as much of Flo's stupid content as others! usually when we get critique from individual wrestlers its for the opposite, for NOT picking them to win more often, so silver lining this is a nice chance of pace.
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