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    Weight Cutting Education

    I will say up front that I have never been in a D1 program. However, I have been around NAIA, D3, and D2 programs for several years, with many years in high school coaching. My question to the board is how far removed are we antiquated weight cutting of the old days to the 90's? I listened to Flo discuss the sauna rule, which I do agree with, but I also believe we still have an issue with how kids are losing weight, and how many coaches just look the other way, or embrace it because that is how they cut back in their day. Kids are not dying now, but it is far from optimal. I still see so many kids come into a season 20, 30 or even 40 lbs over their desired weight and talk about their weight loss like it was no big deal. For a body builder trying to cut and maintain muscle, a cut like that would take 5-6 months or more. I know kids cheat the hydration testing. I have seen wrestlers spend countless hours on treadmills a month out of competition trying to get water out of the system. I have seen the guys who start out a season lean and strong and become soft and weak by the end of the season, but that is just in high school and small colleges. Is this still a problem? Also, with weight loss such a large part of our sport, how do we not have more information available to the general public on weight loss such as macronutrient break downs and proper weight loss training for wrestlers?
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    Penn State vs Kent State Thread

    He didn't but lets see how Wilcke continues to adjust at 84. He looks much more offensive than he was at 97 in only 2 matches but he did show more athleticism. We rarely saw that at 197 from Wilcke.
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    Is Iowa PA-west (or midwest)?

    I don't think it's even close to what it was. Not too long ago, Metcalf won how many Fargo titles and that was the peak of his season. Now I don't think he would even go. He would have gone to Akron, and tried to make a Cadet world team. I mean, how many Fargo titles does Lee and Gable have? The very best rarely to Fargo anymore.
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    Is Iowa PA-west (or midwest)?

    Yes it is. But the champ was at 113, Shriever or Brands maybe have the most upside? Idk. It's hard looking at those guys and saying, he's gonna be a top guy. I could say that about those other guys I listed before. Also, Fargo has fallen from the premier event in recent years IMO. Once again, Id love to be wrong here and dine on crow.
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    Frenzy at the Fieldhouse

    Did you think what desanto did justified his opponents reaction? You're right it's nothing. He may be under .500 in big tens but he will still get seeded and score points at NCAAs.
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    Frenzy at the Fieldhouse

    I mean he had a lil push as the time was running out.... but the other guy looked like he wanted to start a fight and kept it going well after. Desanto did well not engage in that crap.
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    Is Iowa PA-west (or midwest)?

    Just to clarify, I wasn't calling you out Willie. I had just heard some comments you made about Schriever and a few other up and comers. You more or less stated that the state was improving. Maybe. I think Shriever is very good. However, and this is strictly my opinion, I don't see him like a guarantee like I did for Long, Clark or even a McDonough. I hope he proves me wrong! There were also many guys out of those years like Dylan Carew and Kyle Anson who never panned out for whatever reason. When watching the state tourney, I haven't seen the same level of talent coming through. Not even close. I don't know how to account for the downturn, but it is going to take a lot to catch up with the talent that was coming out of the 2000's. The guys that came out of those classes filled Iowa and ISU lineups which were the 2 top teams for a couple years. Iowas recruiting has just been really hurt by that IMO and have been forced to get more guys from PA. I can't speak to the PA thing too much as I don't follow their high school results nationally as much, but the results support your opinion so far.
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    Is Iowa PA-west (or midwest)?

    Iowa really doesn't have an option right now. The last couple of years, IA hasn't produced recruits like of Borshel, Slaton, Leclere, Fields, M*, Gambrall, McDonough, St. John, Marion, Clark, and Sorenson. Just as much as this is a discussion of talent coming from PA, the lack of talent coming out of Iowa right now is just as crazy to me. Willie from Flo thinks that is starting to change again, but I am not seeing it.
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    Weight Cutting Education

    Interesting, I have been in ketosis for a couple months before. I initially dropped 7-10 lbs in the first week then I seemed to respond to the diet in terms of weightloss in the same way I would by calories in and out. Well is dehydration any better than depleted glycogen stores? Also you seem to know a lot about it, and I admittedly do not, but isn't there such a thing as ketone adaption where you begin to efficiently run on fat? There are now endurance athletes who do this, but I do know ketone adaption takes a long time to reach.
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    Weight Cutting Education

    So from what I know this, which is pretty basic, it has a lot to do with nutrition. I believe the reason someone would see large loss in the preseason is not because you are losing fat or lean muscle mass initially. When carbohydrates are stored in the body as glycogen(energy stores) it retains water. An athlete who starts the season well fed and not in an intense workout program 6-7 days a week he/she will have full glycogen stores and because of that he will be retaining a good amount of water at all times. When practice starts, and you start intense training that glycogen gets used for energy and you will lose that water pretty quickly. Most athletes are not properly re-feeding to restore those glycogen stores so they maintain that initial loss pretty easily, but that loss is because of the water not fat. Without replacing your glycogen stores you are not going to have as much energy as you could. IMO even 10 lbs in a month for an already very lean individual is probably not optimal, but I consistently see much worse than that. After the season, when the constant training ends and those glycogen stores are replenished then the water weight comes right back.
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    UPDATED USA CAREER RANKINGS

    The first thing that I notice when looking at this is that you factor in the NCAA's. How does that compare to Junior Worlds? How would you have evaluated someone like Pico if he stayed in wrestling? Right now you have more points for Jesse Delgado's career than Pico's and he would be tied with Joe Colon. Junior Worlds seem more relevant.
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    Weight Cutting Education

    I have seen this too. Hs is consistently bad, and many college kids are more disciplined. However, I have seen more extreme cutting tactics in college. One thing I've never seen- an athlete who counts his calories and tracks his macronutrients
  13. Maybe stating the obvious, but the Ncaa AA's I have been a around had so many coaches and sought so many different rooms to train that no one coach deserved credit.
  14. I have not been around youth wrestling for years, so I never saw the AWA at tourneys. Is Ben the main coach at all 3 sites or is it his brother or do they share time equally. Im just trying to figure out how Ben is going to balance his time at Wisconsin, AWA, and UFC
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    Thielke...ouch!

    They aren't true wrestling fans because we expect something more than we have or because the product isn't fun to watch? Im ready to be a fan of the US greco team, but hard to watch when they are one and done. I think a healthy dose of "we need to change this" is better than "this is just the way it is".
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    Thielke...ouch!

    I don't have the answer. As critical as I have been, I wish I had a solution, but I do not. However, I believe Lindland needs to be held accountable for our teams results. I don't know what he has done to this point to be given a 10 year pass to wait until we accumulate some depth. I think we should see some progress on the senior level, but we are not seeing any except the occasional flash in the pan result. So far Lindland has passed the buck to our athletes and our system. He has even cited toughness and lack of fight, but we do have guys with potential who are doing nothing. I refuse to believe that our athletes just lack toughness. It makes sense when we are hearing concerns about our training from the athletes, because we are not even competing right now. We don't seem prepared for the world stage. Its not a lack of toughness. More likely its a lack of confidence; confidence in their training and technique. Greco is going to be a hard sell in the US no matter what because of folks popularity and its similarity to free, but I think it will be impossible if we don't see at least some sort of consistent progress.
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    Thielke...ouch!

    So we will not be concerned when promising athletes don't pan out? How will we ever build interest and depth if we are not winning medals? Does Germany and China really have that much more depth and potential than us? I just find that hard to believe. My prediction is, if we see no changes, we will get more of the same.
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    Thielke...ouch!

    I am just curious; not trying to be combative. If Bey or Schultz don't get a medal on the senior level will you change your mind? I think with Thielke it is troublesome because he made the olympics at a young age and shows no progress. That and the fact that freestyle made such a quick turnaround in comparison leads me to believe that there needs to be immediate changes. Thielke saying that they spent the majority of the time on strength and conditioning says to me we have a program that is out of touch with the times.
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    Thielke...ouch!

    True. Many coaches, myself included, don't even know where to begin coaching Greco and are very limited in free, even with all the information out there these days.
  20. I got it, and enjoyed it, but I have to think many decided not to pay the 30 and find something else to do this last weekend even as good as team USA wrestled.
  21. Thats not good. Spoke to a head college coach, who follows all levels closely. He had a high school tourney he was going to watch that weekend to recruit, so decided he probably wouldn't pay to get the coverage since he was going to miss a lot of it. Is it better to get the $30 dollars per person from a small base of fans, or actually build interest and make it available to everyone? Is that even possible?
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    Thielke...ouch!

    I saw a lot of Thielke at national/youth tourneys when he was younger. Hasn't he always been a Greco focus from a young age? Same with Ravaughn Perkins. These guys didn't just show up at the trials because they couldn't make the freestyle team.
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    Thielke...ouch!

    That may be the case with him, but so far USA's Greco results speaks for itself.
  24. That is extremely low for a team that had more recognizable names than any team USA has EVER had.
  25. This seems pretty realistic. Most casual fans don't watch every college match, but I know many who tune in to the whole NCAA's via espn 3. $30 just seemed high to me. Most adults have no problem paying that, but how many high school kids and college kids are going to do that? I talked to a few people before the Worlds and immediately the discussion was about whether or not you were going to pay the $30 to watch it. I don't know trackwrestlings financials, but it doesn't seem like a good long term model to demand a fee that many won't pay to watch the super bowl of our sport.
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