Jump to content

dmm53

Members
  • Content Count

    1,324
  • Joined

  • Last visited

  • Days Won

    6

Reputation Activity

  1. Like
    dmm53 got a reaction from Mphillips in BTS...   
    Based on appearances, Yanni's days at 141 are done. 
    He's a 149 pounder who will drop to 65 KG internationally.  Basically follows the weight moves of Zain, Molinaro, Oliver, and others.  It makes sense. 
  2. Like
    dmm53 got a reaction from Eagle26 in How many Mericans do you think can beat Carl?   
    One.  Chuck Norris.   Champions are his breakfast.   And he makes onions cry.  
  3. Haha
    dmm53 got a reaction from Plasmodium in How many Mericans do you think can beat Carl?   
    One.  Chuck Norris.   Champions are his breakfast.   And he makes onions cry.  
  4. Thanks
    dmm53 got a reaction from Mphillips in Wrestling Under Ground   
    Write up and results of the matches:
    https://www.teamusa.org/USA-Wrestling/Features/2020/August/30/Wrestling-Underground-recap
     
  5. Like
    dmm53 got a reaction from fadzaev2 in Most Physically Gifted Wrestlers of All Time   
    As someone else alluded, "physically gifted" means more than raw or preternatural strength, which is obviously very important, especially in youth when there can be huge differences within the same age group.
    Strength can also be both added over time to one's body and arsenal with weight training and countered (mitigated) by an opponent's other abilities (acquired and/or "gifted" from birth).  
    Speed and quickness (e.g., fast twitch muscles); athleticism (e.g., gymnastic ability); proprioception (awareness of the position and movement of one's body) along with balance and cooperation; VO2 Max (volume of maximum oxygen intake and thus endurance),  and flexibility, among other traits,  seem to have a large innate or genetic dimension to them as "physical gifts" even if they can be improved to a degree through effort, work, training, and practice.  
    There is an interesting debate, I think, about how much grit (determination; will power), for example, can be learned or acquired.  
    In  terms of current or recent wrestlers, guys like Dake, Cox, Borroughs, and Nickal (athleticism); Askren, Yianni, and Chamizo (proprioception); RBY, John Smith (speed and quickness), Taylor and Nolf (VO2/endurance) come to mind, among numerous others.
    Some high level combination of the above might be a basic "formula" to get to an elite level when it is combined with technique, drive, good coaching and great mat partners, and other key ingredients. 
    It's hard to think of many wrestlers who possessed (or possess) extremely high "gifts" (talents, abilities) in ALL of these areas: Cael Sanderson maybe in folk wrestling?;  or guys like Sadulaev internationally in freestyle perhaps?
  6. Like
    dmm53 got a reaction from JHRoseWrestling in Taylor vs. Sadulaev   
    A few quick points to consider:
    First of all, Taylor has in fact beaten Cox and fairly soundly in one of the three matches they've wrestled.   The last of the three matches was clearly marked by controversy as well as Cox's waterlogged body and the the small Oxbow lake that formed on the mat via his sweat glands. 
    Secondly, I didn't say a win would prove that Taylor is the best P4P in the world, though he might have a reasonable case to make about that if he did. 
    Thirdly, the transitive property arguments  in wrestling and other sports or areas are complex and tricky at best and usually don't always pan out by any measure.   Dake has both beaten and lost to Cox and also both beaten and lost to JB.  Cox has won several championships at non-Olympic weights, as has Dake.  JB and DT have won at (arguably tougher) Olympic weights.  DT has hammered guys that Cox and Dake have barely beaten—e.g., Hasanov from AZE in the case of Dake.  
    Fourthly, my main questions has to do with how well DT fares or would fare in relation to, first, Snyder, and secondly, Sadulaev.
    Fifth, Taylor seems to have improved markedly in the last few years (even if perhaps Cox and Dake have as well). 
    And, finally, yes, a round robin tourney (if someone could pull it off; meaning put it together) would be great, especially in the (almost zero wrestling) World of Covid. 
  7. Like
    dmm53 got a reaction from ugarte in Senior Open set   
    I think they are in Serbia, which presently allows Americans in.  But I believe there is a requirement about the percentage of both top 10 countries in wrestling and all countries competing that needs to be met in order to hold Worlds.   So, the Covid-19 issue is there in other ways, too. 
    See article below:
    https://olympics.nbcsports.com/2020/07/06/wrestling-world-championships-belgrade/
    And relevant information on travel to Serbia:
    https://rs.usembassy.gov/serbia-covid-19-information/
     
     
  8. Like
    dmm53 reacted to uncle bernard in Does Myles Martin have chance?   
    This is what I was referring to, so thanks for linking it. I also saw a video of him doing technique at a camp where he was going over finishing. He basically said "The way you get good at finishing is putting yourself in those positions over and over again in the practice room. In practice, just shoot and you'll start figuring out these finishes and how to defend against counter stuff too." (obviously paraphrasing). It seems clear that that has been his approach in recent years.
    I found the video: 
     
  9. Like
    dmm53 got a reaction from pamela in Does Myles Martin have chance?   
    In an interview prior to the recent match, Askren asked Taylor what he thinks the most important but under-acknowledged "thing" (I can't remember the exact wording here) in wrestling is, and Taylor hesitated to answer but basically replied "getting your hands locked on a leg or legs" and then either knowing how to go from there to positions where he (one) can score or simply finish from that point.  
    Whether that is in fact the most important "thing" (and Taylor wasn't saying it necessarily is or is the only "thing" but he was pushed to respond to Askren's question), it's interesting because anyone who has followed Taylor's career knows that has not been his approach for years.   Maybe DT grip strength or  his abilities from getting his hand on a leg to creating action (and high probability scoring from that position) has really taken off and developed. 
  10. Like
    dmm53 got a reaction from fadzaev2 in USA vs NLWC   
    I would like to see where Nolf stands against Dake or JB or even again with IMar (now that Nolf is healed up).
    Nickal has beaten PD3 (is the latter still even in the conversation?)
    I would prefer to see Nickal vs. Deiringer or Zahid Valencia.
  11. Like
    dmm53 got a reaction from hammerlockthree in Taylor vs. Sadulaev   
    Yes, let's see the Russian and another translation of "Well you swung boy".  I doubt it is a Tarzan or Jungle Book reference. 
  12. Like
    dmm53 got a reaction from GoNotQuietly in Rby vs fix   
    I noticed that RBY has the Greek word, πάλη (pronouced "pal-ay") tattooed on his right bicep.
    It's the original Greek, I think, for "wrestling" but can also mean more generally to "fight", "battle" or "struggle".
    Here's some additional etymological points for those with interest:
    πάλη, παλης, ἡ (from πάλλω to vibrate, shake), from Homer down, wrestling (a contest between two in which each endeavors to throw the other, and which is decided when the victor is able θλίβειν καί κατέχειν his prostrate antagonist, i. e. hold him down with his hand upon his neck; cf. Plato, legg. 7, p. 796; Aristotle, rhet. 1, 5, 14, p. 1361b, 24; Heliodorus aethiop. 10, 31; (cf. Krause, Gymn. u. Agon. d. Griech. i. 1, p. 400ff; Guhl and Koner, p. 219f; Dict. of Antiq. under the wordlucta)); the term is transferred to the struggle of Christians with the powers of evil: Ephesians 6:12.
     
  13. Like
    dmm53 got a reaction from Husker_Du in Taylor vs. Sadulaev   
    A few quick points to consider:
    First of all, Taylor has in fact beaten Cox and fairly soundly in one of the three matches they've wrestled.   The last of the three matches was clearly marked by controversy as well as Cox's waterlogged body and the the small Oxbow lake that formed on the mat via his sweat glands. 
    Secondly, I didn't say a win would prove that Taylor is the best P4P in the world, though he might have a reasonable case to make about that if he did. 
    Thirdly, the transitive property arguments  in wrestling and other sports or areas are complex and tricky at best and usually don't always pan out by any measure.   Dake has both beaten and lost to Cox and also both beaten and lost to JB.  Cox has won several championships at non-Olympic weights, as has Dake.  JB and DT have won at (arguably tougher) Olympic weights.  DT has hammered guys that Cox and Dake have barely beaten—e.g., Hasanov from AZE in the case of Dake.  
    Fourthly, my main questions has to do with how well DT fares or would fare in relation to, first, Snyder, and secondly, Sadulaev.
    Fifth, Taylor seems to have improved markedly in the last few years (even if perhaps Cox and Dake have as well). 
    And, finally, yes, a round robin tourney (if someone could pull it off; meaning put it together) would be great, especially in the (almost zero wrestling) World of Covid. 
  14. Thanks
    dmm53 got a reaction from irani in Interview with David Taylor   
    The initial interview rings true in terms of the content as well. Taylor now trains in his garage, for example.
    It's a double translation and, yes, translation gets to be a challenging art or craft, especially with poetry, literature and philosophy (and this is not any of them).
    Irani is to be commended for the effort and his honesty.
    Aside: I've heard an (admittedly sexist but perhaps somewhat insightful) line about translation which says in effect, translations are like women; the beautiful ones are not faithful, and the faithful ones are not beautiful.   (I suppose it could apply to some men as well.). "Faithful" of course refers to the degree to which the translation accurately reflects the exact or more literal words being translated.
     
  15. Like
    dmm53 got a reaction from 2td3nf in Taylor vs. Sadulaev   
    A few quick points to consider:
    First of all, Taylor has in fact beaten Cox and fairly soundly in one of the three matches they've wrestled.   The last of the three matches was clearly marked by controversy as well as Cox's waterlogged body and the the small Oxbow lake that formed on the mat via his sweat glands. 
    Secondly, I didn't say a win would prove that Taylor is the best P4P in the world, though he might have a reasonable case to make about that if he did. 
    Thirdly, the transitive property arguments  in wrestling and other sports or areas are complex and tricky at best and usually don't always pan out by any measure.   Dake has both beaten and lost to Cox and also both beaten and lost to JB.  Cox has won several championships at non-Olympic weights, as has Dake.  JB and DT have won at (arguably tougher) Olympic weights.  DT has hammered guys that Cox and Dake have barely beaten—e.g., Hasanov from AZE in the case of Dake.  
    Fourthly, my main questions has to do with how well DT fares or would fare in relation to, first, Snyder, and secondly, Sadulaev.
    Fifth, Taylor seems to have improved markedly in the last few years (even if perhaps Cox and Dake have as well). 
    And, finally, yes, a round robin tourney (if someone could pull it off; meaning put it together) would be great, especially in the (almost zero wrestling) World of Covid. 
  16. Like
    dmm53 got a reaction from Ogalthorpe Haywood in Taylor vs. Sadulaev   
    A few quick points to consider:
    First of all, Taylor has in fact beaten Cox and fairly soundly in one of the three matches they've wrestled.   The last of the three matches was clearly marked by controversy as well as Cox's waterlogged body and the the small Oxbow lake that formed on the mat via his sweat glands. 
    Secondly, I didn't say a win would prove that Taylor is the best P4P in the world, though he might have a reasonable case to make about that if he did. 
    Thirdly, the transitive property arguments  in wrestling and other sports or areas are complex and tricky at best and usually don't always pan out by any measure.   Dake has both beaten and lost to Cox and also both beaten and lost to JB.  Cox has won several championships at non-Olympic weights, as has Dake.  JB and DT have won at (arguably tougher) Olympic weights.  DT has hammered guys that Cox and Dake have barely beaten—e.g., Hasanov from AZE in the case of Dake.  
    Fourthly, my main questions has to do with how well DT fares or would fare in relation to, first, Snyder, and secondly, Sadulaev.
    Fifth, Taylor seems to have improved markedly in the last few years (even if perhaps Cox and Dake have as well). 
    And, finally, yes, a round robin tourney (if someone could pull it off; meaning put it together) would be great, especially in the (almost zero wrestling) World of Covid. 
  17. Like
    dmm53 got a reaction from nom in Taylor vs. Sadulaev   
    A few quick points to consider:
    First of all, Taylor has in fact beaten Cox and fairly soundly in one of the three matches they've wrestled.   The last of the three matches was clearly marked by controversy as well as Cox's waterlogged body and the the small Oxbow lake that formed on the mat via his sweat glands. 
    Secondly, I didn't say a win would prove that Taylor is the best P4P in the world, though he might have a reasonable case to make about that if he did. 
    Thirdly, the transitive property arguments  in wrestling and other sports or areas are complex and tricky at best and usually don't always pan out by any measure.   Dake has both beaten and lost to Cox and also both beaten and lost to JB.  Cox has won several championships at non-Olympic weights, as has Dake.  JB and DT have won at (arguably tougher) Olympic weights.  DT has hammered guys that Cox and Dake have barely beaten—e.g., Hasanov from AZE in the case of Dake.  
    Fourthly, my main questions has to do with how well DT fares or would fare in relation to, first, Snyder, and secondly, Sadulaev.
    Fifth, Taylor seems to have improved markedly in the last few years (even if perhaps Cox and Dake have as well). 
    And, finally, yes, a round robin tourney (if someone could pull it off; meaning put it together) would be great, especially in the (almost zero wrestling) World of Covid. 
  18. Like
    dmm53 got a reaction from UsedToBe103 in Flo matches...   
    FLO is AWARE of the issue, but do you see anyone APOLOGIZING or giving us any more relevant information.   It's like being stuck in a plane on the runway .... three hours later
  19. Like
    dmm53 got a reaction from madcat11 in Dake at it again   
    Some of what I hear in Dake's posts or voice is a dollop of what could be "New Age narcissism".
    Another part almost seems to have a quasi-religious dimension, and that is something that many athletes start to engage in.
    I tend to view that in terms of how (they think or feel) it might affect their performance or monastic  training or belief that their efforts will be successful, redeemed or meaningful given the "sacrifices", and so on—i.e., as a matter of "faith" rather than "truth".
    An interesting study might look at elite athletes in terms of religious belief or lack thereof.  In wrestling, it really seems to be part of the culture, especially when you include places like Iran and Dagestan.
  20. Thanks
    dmm53 reacted to wrestfan in New Gold Medalists for 2012 Olympics at 120kg   
    it's 8 years
    https://www.olympic.org/news/ioc-sanctions-one-athlete-for-failing-anti-doping-tests-at-london-2012-7
    The reanalysis programme for the samples from the Olympic Games London 2012 will continue until the end of the statute of limitations period is reached in August 2020
  21. Thanks
    dmm53 reacted to JHRoseWrestling in New Gold Medalists for 2012 Olympics at 120kg   
    WADA Statute of limitations is 10 years.
  22. Thanks
    dmm53 reacted to maligned in New Gold Medalists for 2012 Olympics at 120kg   
    Right. New tests. It's clearly stated in testing policy that samples will continue to be tested for a certain number of years as new testing methods develop. Not sure what that "certain number" is. Anyone else know?
  23. Like
    dmm53 got a reaction from The Genius in Pat Downey Calling out Taylor for PEDS again...   
    Taylor has blanked Clowny twice: 10-0, 10-0. 
    And the only reason why Clowny wrestled at Worlds is that Taylor was injured and Nickal was up a weight. 
    Clowney now has a new strategy, however: he thinks he can score finally score a point on Taylor by tweeting nonsense with no evidence on social media. 
    The scoreboard just changed to reflect the new reality: it's currently DT 20 and Clowny negative 100 (disqualification for lack of sportsmanship)
     
     
  24. Like
    dmm53 got a reaction from balanceseeker in USA Wrestling Statement on Social Justice   
    It's good to see. 
    https://www.teamusa.org/USA-Wrestling/Features/2020/June/01/USA-Wrestling-statement-on-social-justice
    BY USA WRESTLING | JUNE 01, 2020, 4:04 P.M. (ET)   USA Wrestling statement on social justice

    Social injustice is wrong and contrary to the inclusive nature of wrestling. USA Wrestling’s mission is to provide quality opportunities for its members to achieve their full athletic and human potential. Recent tragedies in our nation compel us to do more and do it better. We stand with our African American and black communities and all of the diverse people who are part of our sport. We will focus our actions on how we can drive change against unjust treatment, police brutality, and systematic racism that is plaguing our nation and world. We need to come together now and use our voice, platform, and actions to help create the kind of society that reflects our values. By its nature, wrestling can be the most inclusive sport on earth. Anyone can wrestle and everyone is welcome. When we hit the mat, we are all part of one wrestling family.
  25. Like
    dmm53 got a reaction from AZ_wrestling in Best Never to Win Hodge?   
    Nolf:
    Three-time champ. Four-time finalist.
    Just two actual ("true") losses in college by just 1 point each time to 2 time champ and 4 time finalist, IMAR (whom he also pinned).
    60 falls  total (averaging 15 per season), a PSU record.  86.6% bonus rate.
    Fierce beyond measure; dominant as hell; super creative; versatile scoring machine, especially on his feet; and a punishing pace.
    Pushed the sport ahead with his experimentation and inventiveness.  
×
×
  • Create New...