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    dmm53 got a reaction from steamboat_charlie v2 in Who in wrestling history wrestled most like Bo Nickal or Jason Nolf   
    Sanders was the only wrestler in history to shut out 1972 Olympic gold medalist Dan Gable in a match. Sanders beat Gable 6-0 in the semifinals at the 1967 AAU National Championships. Gable highlighted his relationship with Sanders in his book titled "A Wrestling Life," and an excerpt can be read here.
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    dmm53 reacted to Katie in Videos of old timey wrestling   
    I think this footage is pretty cool.
    1905 video from the NYAC
    1912 video from the Stockholm Olympics (skip to 5:17)
    1924 video from the Paris Olympics (skip to 4:50)
    1937 video from the NCAA Wrestling Championships
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    dmm53 got a reaction from steamboat_charlie v2 in Who in wrestling history wrestled most like Bo Nickal or Jason Nolf   
    Rick Sanders was an original. Tragedy he died at age 27. 
     
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    dmm53 got a reaction from jchapman in Who in wrestling history wrestled most like Bo Nickal or Jason Nolf   
    Rick Sanders was an original. Tragedy he died at age 27. 
     
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    dmm53 got a reaction from Marcus Cisero in Cats, wrestling and Willie Saylor   
    It would appear, however, that some cats do have takedown skills:
     
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    dmm53 got a reaction from Katie in 141 seeds at Big Tens   
    Here is Regularfan's reasoning about the seeds (from BWI forum).  
    141 lbs (projecting 9 qualifiers so will seed to 14 if that holds)

    1. Nick Lee (Penn State) (23-1, 7-1 Big 10 Starters) – Call this my bold prediction but Lee is the highest ranked in the coaches release of the top three and suffered his only loss in OT. I also think some coaches will punish Carr for missing the last dual and so Lee will get either #1 or #2 votes and Carr will get #1 or #3 votes (behind McKenna) to be the difference

    2. Mike Carr (Illinois) (11-2, 6-0 Big 10 Starters) – Undefeated I think he will split #1 and #3 votes

    3. Joey McKenna (Ohio State) (16-1, 5-1 Big 10 Starters) – higher than Carr in the coaches poll by two spots but he will split #2 and #3 votes from coaches and end up hitting Carr in semis (if my prediction holds)

    4. Tristan Moran (Wisconsin) (19-6, 5-2 Big 10 Starters) – Lost to McKenna, Carr, beat Lee and pinned McKee

    5. Mitch McKee (Minnesota) (15-3, 7-2 Big 10 Starters) – Beat everybody below (and a lot of them), McKee and Storr are very close but McKee has been slightly more dominant vs. common opponents

    6. Kanen Storr (Michigan) (20-4, 6-3 Big 10 Starters) – Storr could very easily be 5 and did have a higher coaches rank than both Moran and McKee but I just see him as #6

    7. Max Murin (Iowa) (12-5, 5-3 Big 10 Starters) – has the weird loss by fall against Luigs but has been everybody else below him

    8. Chad Red (Nebraska) (15-10, 1-5 Big 10 Starters) – wrestled a lot of the top guys, did beat Lipari who beat Limmex (who I am projecting to get a bid)

    9. Peter Lipari (Rutgers) (9-10, 2-6 Big 10 Starters) – interesting to me because I don’t have Lipari qualifying one of the 9 bids but he did beat Limmex in overtime

    10. Nate Limmex (Purdue) (16-12, 2-6 Big 10 Starters) – better overall ranking than Lipari and in the coaches rank (which Lipari was not) but he lost the head-to-head, seeded 10th even though I have him qualifying the ninth and final bid

    11. Kyle Luigs (Indiana) (13-14, 1-4 Big 10 Starters) – Pinned Murin but lost to Limmex, could also be 12

    12. Austin Eicher (Michigan State) (13-11, 1-4 Big 10 Starters) – beat McKenna for only conference win

    13. Danny Bertoni (Maryland) (13-12, 0-4 Big 10 Starters) – winning record overall was difference to me although he was a backup doing opens for some of the year

    14. Alec McKenna (Northwestern) (8-10, 0-7 Big 10 Starters) – was the man all year long for Northwestern, will coaches reward that with 13 seed over Bertoni?
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    dmm53 got a reaction from Housebuye in Iowa-Wisconsin   
    Marinelli should have been hit for stalling in the second period.  Would have given Wick the win since Marinelli was called for it later.  
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    dmm53 got a reaction from gowrestle in Nolf   
    https://www.centredaily.com/sports/college/penn-state-university/psu-wrestling/article226371155.html
     
     
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    dmm53 got a reaction from BadgerMon in Bey with a right hook   
    He didn't go as far as these guys (below) or the Mongolian coaches in the Olympics.   But it might have been more entertaining if he had done so.
     
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    dmm53 got a reaction from RealAmericanHero in Will Kerry McCoy ever be on the hot seat?   
    Maryland has 1 win in the Big Ten in the last 5 years (over Michigan State).
    They are currently 0-6 and being outscored by Big Ten opponents this year 40-205.
    Overall 0-9 this year.
    Before entrance into the Big Ten, they were performing better in the ACC. 
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    dmm53 got a reaction from Abdullahgadzhi Khuzin in Bey with a right hook   
    Wrestlers watching too much MMA?  
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    dmm53 reacted to stp in Biggest threat to Nickal?   
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    dmm53 reacted to randyfoxwell in Is David Taylor over rated?   
    We should probably turn cinnaboning into a verb for this board
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    dmm53 got a reaction from HurricaneWrestling2 in Why do people hate Cael?   
    Maybe no one consciously dislikes Sanderson for this reason but it might be a subconscious factor: namely, that he was "perfect" in college: 159-0 with 4 titles. 
    And he doesn't tend to draw attention to himself or his own achievements.  He appears serenely aloof and even sublimely detached in a more- or other-than-human way at times. 
    It is hard for most of us to relate in a personal way to perfection.  You can't top it.  It is near-impossible to achieve or emulate.  It is in some sense "inhuman". And, while his tenure as coach at PSU clearly has not been perfect, it certainly has been extremely dominant and arguably without scandal or large doses and displays of ego.  
    Some folks liked to dislike Iowa when they thoroughly ruled the sport for years. And maybe Oklahoma State before that.  These teams were "the Yankees" of wrestling,.  But now that torch is carried by Penn State  . . . at least for the time being.
    I suspect there is frequently  a desire or to see giants fail or fall  . . . or be felled: celebrities, the rich, the powerful, the successful.  Cosmic "justice" almost demands it; poetic justice wants it. 
    And, who knows, there might even be a hidden longing for disaster and the drama or intensity that comes with all that—a wish for the ruination of others, the possibility that one's own team can then ascend, and sometimes the delicious or seditious enjoyment in this suffering of others (schadenfreude).   
    Isn't in fact there another thread currently on The Mat called "PSU - How the Dynasty Will End".  (What's that remark by Yogi Berra or maybe Neils Bohr: something like "It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future"?)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqovm-Io2D0
     
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    dmm53 got a reaction from leshismore in Tech-to-Pin option   
    It occurs to me that there could (perhaps should) be a "Tech-to-Pin" option available for wrestlers.
    Has anything like this ever been proposed or considered?  What might be the disadvantages, and do they outweigh the possible advantages?
    The idea would basically be that when a wrestler achieves a 15 point margin (lead) in a match, he can elect to either stop right there and get the tech (5 team points) OR  continue to work for the pin (6 team points) in the remaining time.
    Perhaps a wrestler can signal to the ref with a vertically raised index finger if he wishes to continue to wrestle toward a fall.  Or use a horizontal slash of the hand to indicate the match is over.
    The action could automatically be halted if one of the wrestlers achieves a 20 point margin (or some number like that; maybe 22 or 25).  Such a proviso would help to avoid instances of utter humiliation and domination of a losing wrestler. 
    The rules might conceivably include the condition as well that if the wrestler who chooses the "Tech-to-Pin" option fails to achieve a pin in the remaining match time, then he only receives four team points for a major (if he ends up winning by any number of points above 8 at the end of regulation) rather than the 5 for a tech (had he stopped when the tech was achieved earlier).
    I see a number of possible advantages to this option:
    (i)  It places the emphasis on pinning rather than just scoring points. 
    (ii) It can make the dual more exciting and give a team a chance to pull out a victory, especially in the last match when team scores are close.  (When the wrestler fails to get the pin, it can add drama to the scoring process). 
    (iii) It gives the losing wrestler a fighting chance to either win the match (by pin) or to lose fewer team points by turning the loss into a major or decision.  
    (iv) It helps to counter situations that have become increasingly common where a wrestler leading by, say, 13 or 14 points deliberately and often awkwardly does not take down his opponent despite being close to or clearly able to do so (so as to avoid the immanent tech) and only works for a (risky or long shot) takedown that would at the same time produce a pinning combination.  
    Thoughts?  
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    dmm53 reacted to Cooch1 in Tech-to-Pin option   
    Would be an interesting experiment. What would a guy do if given an option?  Would he go for it out of looking like a wimp if he says No? If he says Yes then does that implicitly impel him to really go for the pin especially if his team needs it, rather than just more meaningless tilts/takedowns... like B. Satiev? Was/is Satiev the exception or the rule? Will this encourage just more showoffs and scoring only? Will this spur more desire to learn pinning in general if wrestlers who are dominant are going to be put on the spot with an option? ? What if the winning opponent is a stall call away from a dq and there's lots of time left? Or the loser is nursing an injury, trying to "gut it out" to avoid giving up 6 =forf.? Would the winner want to continue and push the dq/injury possibility? Does the tech now let guys hurting in these situations off the hook? Will coaches decide to pull a slightly injured wrestler, or the wrestler quits rather than roll the dice hoping he can survive 7 minutes in a very big, close dual meet/ tournament? If wrestling is the sport of the pin, does the option at least validate that feeling, as opposed to the tech which is actually an anti-pin mentality? Will the crowd get into it, like Lets Make A Deal, and goad the potential winner? Will the option increase the suspense/excitement? 
    My feeling is it's worth a try experimentally for a couple years. A bout is now shorter than ever and the tech rule only makes it shorter. As our president once said, "Whadda you have to lose?"
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    dmm53 got a reaction from squeek in Iowa-Northwestern   
    No Kaleb Young vs. Deakin either.  What's up with the Young absence? 
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    dmm53 got a reaction from GoNotQuietly in A bad week for wrestling?   
    A seemingly bad week for wrestling:
    No Snyder vs. Sadulaev (despite the buildup)
    Snyder loses in first round of Yariguin
    Pico gets knocked out in first round
    Zain loses first round.  Green loses.
    Oliver is a no show at Schulz (despite the hype).
    Lee vs. Rivera doesn't happen (despite the hype)
    RBY injury.  
    Missing anything else?
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    dmm53 got a reaction from russelscout in The College Wrestler that saved a BILLION Lives   
    The right wing and especially the current administration is throughly and completely anti-science, especially with respect to climate change, evolution,  and many, many other issues.  It's all that religious nonsense, corporate welfare, aggressive anti-regulation (for big business), corruption, and fear-mongering. 
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2016/apr/28/can-the-republican-party-solve-its-science-denial-problem
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/03/us/politics/republican-leaders-climate-change.html
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    dmm53 got a reaction from TobusRex in The College Wrestler that saved a BILLION Lives   
    The right wing and especially the current administration is throughly and completely anti-science, especially with respect to climate change, evolution,  and many, many other issues.  It's all that religious nonsense, corporate welfare, aggressive anti-regulation (for big business), corruption, and fear-mongering. 
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2016/apr/28/can-the-republican-party-solve-its-science-denial-problem
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/03/us/politics/republican-leaders-climate-change.html
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    dmm53 got a reaction from Coach_J in The College Wrestler that saved a BILLION Lives   
    The so-called Green Revolution is a highly contentious issue, and there are numerous studies that argue that it was not as successful as previously claimed and likely caused or led to great amounts of harm.  Borlaug's work in particular is very controversial.  
    https://www.motherjones.com/food/2011/08/green-revolution-cullather/
    https://www.routledge.com/The-Green-Revolution-Revisited-Critique-and-Alternatives-1st-Edition/Glaeser/p/book/9780415853736
    https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/poverty-matters/2014/apr/01/norman-borlaug-humanitarian-hero-menace-society
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    dmm53 reacted to HurricaneWrestling2 in Separated at birth?   
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    dmm53 got a reaction from LLB in Nebraska at Penn State   
    Huh?  In a high school match, Berger once edged Nolf.  Since then, Nolf has tech-ed him and majored him twice.  
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    dmm53 got a reaction from stp in Rutgers vs Iowa   
    BTN just gave the Cliff Keen Outstanding Wrestler to Marinelli.   Whether you like him or not, the award should have gone to DeSanto.  Maybe BTN is cautious about rewarding a putz.
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    dmm53 got a reaction from Housebuye in Undefeated Wrestlers Remaining 165 lbs. — 285 lbs.   
    OK.  Done. 
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