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    Why Did Sammy Sasso Go To Ohio State?

    After seeing Sammy Sasso's matched with Brayton Lee, we should call him Sammy "Gasso". He looked clearly gassed, and a completely different wrestler from the US Open, where Sasso tech'd Brayton with relative ease.
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    Men’s freestyle WTT day 1 thread

    Floarena says Cruz
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    Men’s freestyle WTT day 1 thread

    Floarena crawling back to life
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    Men’s freestyle WTT day 1 thread

    That's got to be an incorrect message, unless there was a big reason
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    Men’s freestyle WTT day 1 thread

    I hope they finished the matches in progress
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    Men’s freestyle WTT day 1 thread

    Went out for me on both PC and on phone. Priceless...
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    Any word on Kemerer getting a 6th year?

    Physiologically, high school students are not the same as collegiate students. I didn't "bloom" until i was late 16-ish, early 17, and I was wrestling guys that had a 5 o'clock shadow by 1pm. By the time college age hits, 99.9% of one's overall physical "maturity" (note, i didn't say development) has been attained. Your analogy is like saying that you can substitute pop with water, and get the same nutritional effect. Sure.. pop has water in it, but, not the same animal. The difference between a 23 year old senior/5th year and a 26 year old is marginal at best. So long as said 26 year old is a full time student, paying his own way (i.e. clearing the way for scholarship money for the incoming crop), and wants to keep going until he's reached his academic fill, why limit said 26 year old? I don't see who this actually hurts in this situation, except the guy that has the passion, drive, and desire, to continue in his craft.
  8. I made a comment, deeply buried in the Kemdawg thread about him getting an extension, but thought I'd surface it so more light may shine. Why does the NCAA have "eligibility" rules? Why is there is a limit on the number of years you can participate. Theoretically, so long as you have the $$, and the drive, you can go to college for your entire life. You may graduate, but you may re-enroll, and take different coursework, theoretically ending up with 50 degrees, etc. What purpose does eligibility limits actually serve? Who benefits from having these limits? My thought is that so long as scholly money is appropriately correct, since this is a finite resource, then who cares how many years a person may choose to participate in NCAA athletics? So long as they are an actual student of the school, it ought not matter? Am I missing something? (and no... don't answer with a question like "how would you like to be an 18 year old wrestling a 28 year old". I'm actually in favor of this, if the 28 year old can still hang after a decade of collegiate level wrestling).
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    NCAA Eligibility - WHY does this Concept Exist

    You're absolutely right. The take rate on this is probably in single digits percentages. This begs the question of why have a rule that hurts <10%, and the other 90% are ambivalent to. No one "is harmed" by allowing infinite eligibility, so long as they are a full time student and have already exhausted whatever financial incentives were awarded. If I pay my own way, am a student, but am 29 years old, I should be able to keep wrestling if I CHOOSE. It's the restriction of choice that I am against, especially when it's a victimless situation.
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    NCAA Eligibility - WHY does this Concept Exist

    The bolded statement above is the key here. In all of the justifications that i've seen thus far, I'm desperately wanting to, and still failing to see, the root of "why" this rule exists. Age is relative - As other posters have stated, we have 18 year old true freshman winning NCAA (and World) championships. Degree is the intention - Couldn't agree more. My use-case is all about that student athlete that wishes to pursue continued education, OUTSIDE of scholarship monies, on their own dime. Why is it frowned upon that older men (i.e. 30+) shouldn't wrestle? This is absolutely baffling to me. This is probably one of the bigger reasons why the sport is destined to stay a tiny, small, niche sport in high schools, college, and why MMA is stealing the futures of the wrestler away. The Ageism is profound, and unless you're a coach, you shouldn't compete? Really? Masters Tournaments are USA Wrestling sanctioned events, and the age brackets go up to 65+. Clearly the indoctrination and "how things have always been" is simply too strong. Do I have enough energy to continue the argument. Nope. It doesn't affect me. More than anything, I wanted to prompt some thoughtful discussion, and ask some "tougher" questions about "why"... and instead, we're faced with putting Brawndo on Plants, because it has electrolytes, and its what plants crave. Why not water? Because... they never used water before... and it doesn't have electrolytes. Why not allow wrestling beyond the current eligibility rules? Because someone in an association said so, with very little reason, and we accept it fully because we were told that its how things should be.
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    NCAA Eligibility - WHY does this Concept Exist

    You haven't been on this board very long then.. they get MUCH weirderererererer
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    NCAA Eligibility - WHY does this Concept Exist

    i know "who" makes the rules... i'm questioning the rule itself, it's grounding, and it's overall need.
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    NCAA Eligibility - WHY does this Concept Exist

    So it's kinda like the Matrix... where everyone's a plugged in battery and no one knows the wiser... or... it's kinda like working at a company for 35 years, and not pushing for innovation, because "that's the way it's always been done". There are rules/laws, like these... that no one bothers to question, but are on the books, and are downright dumb/silly/unecessary: https://www.bncjlaw.com/Blog/2014/May/Strange-Arizona-Laws.html Same goes for the eligibility rules?
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    NCAA Eligibility - WHY does this Concept Exist

    i can see this point, and this is probably one of the more logical arguments... however, I'm questioning the feasibility/likelihood. The other rules about endorsements and such would still hold, and so the "jobs" or "side hustle" to make ends meet given the financial toll of being in school for an extended number of years would also be clearly defined (i.e. dining hall jobs, OWA, etc.). There are already rules about booster involvement, so I think this is a very archaic and unecessary rule. But... for the guy/gal that is individually wealthy, good enough to keep it going, and wants to stay in school forever and a day, then who are we to say they can't compete? There's a lot of "if's" there, and that is exactly my point. A rule exists for no reason but to have a rule, and the rule is only really enforced based on wild exceptions.
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    NCAA Eligibility - WHY does this Concept Exist

    At no time did I suggest "subisidizing" the prolonged athletes career. In fact, I posted numerous times throughout this thread as how ASIDE FROM SCHOLLY MONIES... why this concept existed. My point is if I: * Exhaust my scholarship money (or for some schools/divisions, there is no scholly money) * Pay my own way through grants, financial aid, side hustle/job * Am considered a full-time student by the University Then... who cares if I've wrestled/played ball at the university for 10, 15, 20 years? If I can physically do it, beat out all those who would challenge me at my weight or position, then who cares. By the by, that person would ALSO be foregoing professional athletics/jobs. I'm fine with an association, freely associating, and freely making their own policies. I'm not questioning that. I'm questioning THIS policy, and why it exists. I still have yet to hear a valid, logical argument for why the eligibility rule exists.
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    NCAA Eligibility - WHY does this Concept Exist

    In my world, if a 35 year old fell into that bucket, then yes... they should be able to compete. I was a late bloomer, so it seemed like everyone had "man-strength" compared to me! ha!
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    NCAA Eligibility - WHY does this Concept Exist

    I'm still trying to figure out why anyone cares that there are guys in their mid-20's on the field, the court, or on the mat? I'm a maximized freedom type of guy, and I'm still trying to see how allowing people to compete into perpetuity, so long as they're a full-time student, harms someone else?
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    NCAA Eligibility - WHY does this Concept Exist

    I'm looking for the rationale. If I CHOOSE to stay enrolled for 10 years, why couldn't I continue my athletic career for that duration as well. You're stating factual status quo without actually answering my question:. Why?
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    Bold Prediction

    Barring injury or some crazy cosmic realignment, predicting that Yianni will be the next 4x NCAA champ. Lee may join him simultaneously, but I feel he has a few more landmines to navigate the next two years, compared to Yianni.
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    Any word on Kemerer getting a 6th year?

    I'm trying to figure out why (aside from the scholly monies) any of this still matters? Even if the scholly maxes at 4 years... if I choose to pay my own way, how is that "abuse"? Again, I feel that there's this arbitrary rule (I like your naming of it) that is grounded in very little actual logic, other than the fact that the NCAA wants to ensure that people are in for a short time, and then immediately out. So long as the scholly monies are appropriated correctly, it ought not matter where the money to pay for college comes from after the scholly period runs out. My own pocket, military, my rich uncle, etc. etc. etc. Maybe this rule is more for the stick n' ball sports, where after you're "eligibility" runs out, you're supposed to go "pro" or hang 'em up? Other thoughts?
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    Any word on Kemerer getting a 6th year?

    Serious question. What is the logic behind having a limit to how many years one can compete at the NCAA level. Maybe I want 10 majors and multiple post graduate degrees. Why should my eligibility be limited? Scholly $$ is a different story, but overall, why does it matter that limits are enforced. What good does it serve?
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    Cassar granted 2 more years!

    I can't wait to get my refund!
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    Rumor - Beau Bartlett will flip to Penn State

    This... is gonna be very very true.
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    Rumor - Beau Bartlett will flip to Penn State

    Ignore the ignorance.
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    Bold Prediction

    Nick Lee will get 5th, for the 3rd time, setting up a potential 4-peat of getting 5th the following year.
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