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    treep2000 got a reaction from Mphillips in Wrestle Off Results   
    I'm hoping, with these results, that we can officially retire the "Echemendia is the next title contender" topic.  The amount of hype surrounding this young man was nothing short of spectacular, and unfortunately, it does not appear that he will be able to live up to this amount of over-hype.  Maybe his freestyle results will show a different story in the end, but in collegiate folk, he'll now be considered, maybe, as 2nd or 3rd best on the team.  
    I'm looking forward to Decatur / D'Emilio.  Interesting stylistic matchup.  
    I'm looking forward to seeing if Paddy is the real deal vs. Hubbard, and how that match progresses.  If it's close, I'll be concerned that 157 for the Buckeyes may be another question mark.  If it's not close, then we'll know who the starter is, and will need to wait for additional competition to make the assessment.
    Schierl and Smith is a fascinating matchup.  Fritz is a gamer, but so is Smith.  
    Fun times in Buckeyeland figuring all this out.
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    treep2000 reacted to Mphillips in Wrestle Off Results   
    133: Philip Kue over Chase Liardi (Dec 4-0)

    133: Andre Gonzales over Alex Flerlage (MD 13-4)

    133: Dylan Koontz over Phillip Kue (Fall 4:43)

    141: Jordan Decatur over Anthony Echemendia (Dec 7-3)

    157: Jashon Hubbard over Kevon Freeman (Dec 9-4)

    157: Jashon Hubbard over Isaac Wilcox (Dec 4-3)

    174: Fritz Schierl over. Bryer Hall (TF 22-4)

    285: Mike Misita over Hogan Swenski (Dec 2-0)
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    treep2000 reacted to ShakaAloha in "Lee's knees"   
    If he wrestles at 125, Vito Arujau should be included as someone who is a threat to Spencer 
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    treep2000 reacted to lu1979 in JB and Cox post Oslo   
    How is Zahid tier 3?  He is definitely better than Myles Amine - he just beat him recently.  DT & Yazdani are tier 1 - I would say Zahid is in tier 2 with Saifanov and a couple of other Russians.
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    treep2000 got a reaction from BerniePragle in Bo Bassett an Iowa lock?   
    A few of us have sons yet to be born that i hear that Koll, Ryan, Brands and Cael all have their eye on.  
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    treep2000 reacted to ionel in Bo Bassett an Iowa lock?   
    My yet to be born grandson has already committed to John Smith's yet to be born grandson.  
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    treep2000 reacted to snapspinscore in Bo Bassett an Iowa lock?   
    I sure hope not, that is where my current 9 year old will be wrestling in college. 
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    treep2000 got a reaction from scribe in The obvious question nobody asked   
    I keep reviewing the matches that our world team members wrestle at the WC.  All rounds, and am comparing the differences that I'm seeing in those that medal, vs. Those that do not. 
    Aside from generational talents of Yazdani and Sadulaev this past tournament getting in the way of two of our superstars,  the medalists seem to have a commonality:  not just the desire to win, but the unequivocal belief of self that they will win, and handily.
    Yianni & Green seemingly wrestled apprehensive, yet possess the skills to clearly compete and win at this level.  
    Our medalists wrestled  with attitude and determination that exudes confidence.  When going against an equally skilled opponent that does not have that level of confidence, the attitude becomes an overwhelming force.
    Gilman is wrestling with this same determination now.  Not just to wrestle to win, but to wrestle to dominate. 
    As such, Gilman is our 57kg rep until proven otherwise, regardless of who tries.  He has improved, no doubt, and although Spencer Lee could be formidable, he has the ACL issue, and a lack of recent results that would dictate.  Now, Spencer also wrestles with the same determination that I described above, but... one has to first be healthy and in peak condition to leverage this "intangible" to its fullest extent.  
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    treep2000 got a reaction from cjc007 in Iran is on fire   
    Zares's backflip  is a direct callout of Steveson.  Will Gable take the bait?  Oh I hope so.  
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    treep2000 got a reaction from spladle08 in Worlds Day 2 57/65/79/92kg   
    Product of the 90's I presume?
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    treep2000 got a reaction from Mphillips in US-based wrestlers competing for other countries/federations this year   
    This was a very long response to a very short statement...
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    treep2000 got a reaction from LifeintheRed in Ranking our senior men’s wrestlers, pound-for-pound   
    This is fair and balanced...
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    treep2000 reacted to LifeintheRed in Ranking our senior men’s wrestlers, pound-for-pound   
    I think it's pretty clear. From 2017 (Excluding 2017 Worlds which hurts Snyder & Burroughs and to a lesser degree J'Den), here are the numbers. I think "current" has to be a few years anyway just to get a usable sample size. Results are all matches, domestic & international:
    1) David Taylor - Since Dec. 2017, has went 54-0, winning a World Championship and Olympic Gold. He's P4P King right now. Let's look and see how some others have fared over that same time period:
    2) Kyle Dake - Since Dec. 2017, has went 58-2, winning 2 World Championships and Bronze at Olympics. 
    3) Kyle Snyder - since Dec. 2017, has went 68-6, winning Silver & Bronze at World Championships and Olympic Silver 
    4) J'den Cox - since Dec. 2017, has went 42-5, winning two World Championships
    5) Jordan Burroughs - Since Dec. 2017, has went 44-8, winning 2 bronze medals at World Championships
    I put Snyder ahead of Cox because he actually wrestles and the same dude who has denied him Gold twice would likely also deny Cox. 
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    treep2000 got a reaction from Husker_Du in Who's Better: David Taylor or Kyle Dake   
    Chummin' the water eh @Husker_Du?
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    treep2000 got a reaction from DocBZ in Will 2021 be a “real” world championships?   
    It's tough to downplay any year's WC, even the 2016 "JV" version.  I'm sure any one of us would love to have Logan Stieber's world champion moniker on their resume.  Retrospectively, he did win against a solid field.  
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    treep2000 got a reaction from southend in Willie's Earth Shattering News   
    Well... this conversation kinda went the way of the birds...
    This has clearly become a case where it's now "my science is better than your science" type of situation.  Each side is in their corner, citing their "proof" and their "research" as to what's most "right".  
    The truth is always somewhere in the middle.  The anti-vaccine folks have their POVs, and probably, some pretty good "truths", as well as "un-truths".  The pro-vaccine folks have their POVs, some pretty good "truths", as well as some "un-truths". 
    Either way, we haven't reached herd immunity, but now have two herd mentalities, each opposing each other viciously, yet again. 
    The question is... "Is this about winning" (the argument)?  If so, and the other side must abide or "obey", was something actually "won"?  Seems to me that there is a lot of sacrificing and a lot of coercion being spoken about, with very little irrefutable science on either side that dictates what is "right".  
    Going back to "my science is better than your science" mantra.  This is how this manifests... 
    Without 100% irrefutable proof, sides are taken based on what really boils down to a "belief" in the science The "belief" in the science that one chooses to believe in relies on "faith" Pretty much all religions are "faith"-based, meaning, the people also have to believe in this greater good or power that is bigger than them (which, is also now, the science they've chosen to align towards) As such, since you now must have "faith" in your science... you now hold the science as a sort of religion And that... my friends, are where we're at.  The science is the new religion, and we ALL know what happens when we elevate religion and pit them against each other...  
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    treep2000 got a reaction from Scorenomore in WNO & NCAA Impact   
    It would make a lot of sense to have our NCAA weights mirror the international weights.  What would be the logic, besides "that's the way its always been" or "that ain't American" to not align the weights?  10 international weights, 10 ncaa weights.  
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    treep2000 got a reaction from denger in Anticipate Lineups for 21-22   
    My guess at tOSU:
    125:  Heinselman
    133:  Koontz.  I just don't think Decatur can continue to make 133 with any success whatsoever
    141: D'Emilio.  Unless Ech has gained some folkstyle chops over the summer. 
    149: Sasso
    157:  Gallagher.  starts right away, but doesn't find the podium at NCAA's like most think he has the opportunity to do.  There are a lot of solid guys at 157, and I haven't seen evidence (quite yet), that he's at that level.  But... we shall see.
    165: Kharchla.  A truly healthy Carson can win the weight.  An unhealthy or slightly injured Kharchla will DNP
    174:  Smith.  Ethan moves up to 174 due to Kharchla
    184:  Romero.  Kaleb moves up to 184 and has a nice solid showing once again
    197:  Hoffman.  I think that Jordan is the odd man out of the lineup this season.
    HWT:  Orndorff.  
    This buckeye team is going to have its work cut out for it against the rest of the Big Ten competition:
    125: Ceiling: 5th-8th
    133: Celing: DNP
    141: Ceiling: 7th-8th
    149: Ceiling: NCAA Champ.  If Yianni is here, ceiling is once again 2nd.
    157: Ceiling: 5th-8th
    165: Ceiling NCAA Champ
    174: Ceiling 5th-8th.  New weight.  New competitors
    184: Ceiling 7th-8th.  New weight.  New competitors
    197: Ceiling 7th-8th.  
    HWT: Ceiling 5th-8th.  HWT is tough again.  
    I only see two "locks" to AA, with Sasso and Kharchla, with Sasso being more of a lock than Kharchla (at this point).  Would not be surprised in the least if that's all they get, and also wouldn't be surprised if they end up with 9 AA's. 
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    treep2000 got a reaction from spladle08 in WNO & NCAA Impact   
    It would make a lot of sense to have our NCAA weights mirror the international weights.  What would be the logic, besides "that's the way its always been" or "that ain't American" to not align the weights?  10 international weights, 10 ncaa weights.  
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    treep2000 got a reaction from Ohio Elite in WNO & NCAA Impact   
    This is a college wrestling forum, so, why not talk about potential upcoming recruits, like from last night's WNO and see how the predictions and posts age?  Afterall, most of the competitors picked to participate at WNO end up landing D1 spots, and ultimately AA, with many NCAA Champs already:
    170:  Gabe Arnold won this.  Reminds me a bit of how Trent Hidlay wrestles.  Will be interesting to see his progression
    106:  8th Grader Bo Bassett.  Wow!  Is this guy the next Spencer Lee?  Absolutely dismantled his opponent, and is only in 8th grade!  Most likely projects as a middleweight given he's 106 in 8th grade, but, as evidenced by the most recent Zillmer/Bradley match, anything can happen regarding each individual's physical growth and maturity.
    182:  TJ Stewart.  Reminded me of how Dudley wrestles.  I assume projects as a 184.  Should be a good addition to the depth at 184 in coming years.
    145:  Arrington.  Assumes to project at 157.  Will be fun to watch
    113:  Davis.  One of the more dominating performances.  Assumed to project at 125 or 133.  Was a fun match to watch and will be interesting to see how he'll translate at the next level.
    160:  Haines.  Was expecting big things from Haines, but he eaked out a squeaker vs. Barr.  Unsure of commitment (didn't look), but expect him to be a PSU recruit given his alignment with DT's club.
    106:  Knox.  Wow!  Very impressive showing indeed.  Would now like to see Knox vs. Bassett.  Handled Lilledahl, who just had a Cadet Bronze.  His pressure appeared to be relentless.  
    152:  Henson.  He seems legit.  Defeated a potentially injured Williams.  Assume he projects at 157.  Will be a tough out.
    195:  Fishback.  Pulled it out over Nelson on a last second failed throw attempt.  Appeared gassed, but it didn't stop him from taking the crown.  Will be a fun addition to the depth at 197. 
    138:  Swiderski.  Wow!  Everyone expected Mendez to steal the show and put up some numbers, but not last night.  It was Swiderski's show.  Technique.  Strength.  Athleticism.  Seems to be a complete package.  Assumed to project at 141/149?  
    120:  Jesuroga.  Very controlled match.  Will be fun to see how he translates, presumably, at 125.
    Big Man Supermatch:
    * Carroll:  The 220lb Carroll is a gamer, and was right there with Feldman.  I saw no real size difference between the two.  The result was super-close.
    * Feldman:  The #1 285 currently.  Appeared to be the about the same size as Carroll.  Has speed and athleticism, and reminds me a bit of Kyle Snyder in his style.  
    However... as we think about translation.  Amos utterly demolished Carroll multiple times in the past few months.  Sure, Amos is now Jr. World Champ in Free and Jr. World Bronze in Greco, but, Amos also is projecting at 197, and may be an example of the step up in competition at 197 at NCAA's (not to mention Ferrari). Feldman's results vs. Carroll did not impress like I had expected, and at 285, with Parris, Kerk, Schultz, etc., it will still be a long road for Feldman at HWT.  Things will most likely change, but based on the eyeball test and some very loose "transitive property" play, not seeing either right now as NCAA Champ material (at least right off the bat).  
    All in all, a fun show.  
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    treep2000 got a reaction from Grecojones in Bold Prediction: Keep this until 2024   
    Gable Steveson returns for the 2024 Olympic run.  
    After going WWE for a few years, and apparently turning his back on Amateur Wrestling, the newly minted WWE Star returns to what made him who he is and...
    * Runs through everyone at Heavyweight at the OTT.  His closest match is Kerkvliet in the finals, and he techs him in the first period.
    * At the Olympics, goes unscored upon, teching his way to his 2nd Olympic Gold.  
    His star power at the WWE only increases, and the further cross-promotion of Amateur and Professional Wrestling goes into overdrive.  In 2025, he lands a movie gig alongside The Rock. 
    Let's see how this post ages.  ;-)  
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    treep2000 got a reaction from wrestlingnerd in USA FSs Most likely to win Gold in Oslo   
    This is a good readout.  I may flip Gilman and yianni, but otherwise, really good!
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    treep2000 got a reaction from irani in Video of Hassan Yazdani training for the worlds   
    It'll be fun, that's for sure....
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    treep2000 reacted to Return of Aztec in Bold Prediction: Keep this until 2024   
    I regret nothing.

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