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Posts posted by rpm002

  1. 14 minutes ago, mattchristensen112 said:
    Jordan is now a 6x Champ and a 3x Bronze Medalist. What is crazy is how many times he has had to go through a Russian, Iranian, or both! Take a look:
    - 2011 (Gold): Beats both Tsargush (RUS) and Goudarzi (IRI)
    - 2012 (Gold): Beats both Tsargush (RUS) and Goudarzi (IRI)
    - 2013 (Gold): Beats Akbarizarinkolaei (IRI) and has a broken ankle
    - 2014 (Bronze): Loses to Tsargush after an earlier knee injury
    - 2015 (Gold): Beats Ghasemi (IRI) and Geduev (RUS)
    - 2016 (9th): Lost to Geduev (RUS)
    - 2017 (Gold): Beats Cabolov (RUS)
    - 2018 (Bronze): Beats Hosseinkhani (IRI) and loses to Sidakov (RUS)
    - 2019 (Bronze): Loses to Sidakov (RUS)
    - 2021 (Gold): Beats Valiev (RUS) and Nokhodilarimi (IRI)

    I've also noticed that most of our wrestlers who win Pan-Ams usually face a Cuban wrestler somewhere along the way.... ;)

  2. I would say Taylor.  Maybe this is recency bias but the difference between Taylor in his biggest moment (finding a late takedown to beat a truly great opponent) and Dake in his biggest moment (getting thrown on his head and tech-smashed) is just so big that even though there is a lot of other stuff in Dake's favor, it can't overcome this.  I feel like if Dake would have lost in the Olympics in a 7-5 match it would be easier to make a case for him, but since it was 11-0, not so much.

  3. 2 hours ago, mspart said:

    Are we thinking of anyone in particular here that may be wasting his or her time on continuing to wrestle? 

    Bill Zadick worked a long time to beat Cary Kolat but never did on the senior circuit.  Cary's gumby knee was just too much for him.  But later, Bill won the World Championship.  Steel sharpened steel it would appear.  Using the argument that started this, Bill would have done better to quit.  However, he is a World Champion Wrestler and the National Coach.  His body is not in the same wrestling shape anymore, but his mind certainly is as witnessed by our Olympic performance.  Granted he may be an outlier, but chasing your dream causes sacrifices to be made.  Bill won that bet.  Not everyone does.   Financial benefit is not the end all be all.  There are other rewards for hard work, many of them intangible. 


    Another example is Tyler Graff.  They said he would never break through, but at age 30, he made a World Team, won 3 matches at World's, and gave the eventual World champion his closest match of the tournament.  

  4. 1 hour ago, hammerlockthree said:

    He is new to the weight, has no results within the last year....and oh yeah he is gonna get killed.

    I'm not saying Downey should be a high seed. .  I'm just saying that in the seeding meeting where they compared the wrestling resumes of Pat Downey and Mickey O'Malley, there is no reasonable objective criteria that would lead one to seed O'Malley higher, yet that is what they did.

  5. 43 minutes ago, hammerlockthree said:

    I don't know I would say suriano/nato is interesting. Its either gonna be a one sided win for suriano or boring. 

    It will likely be low scoring, but I think Nato has a shot to pull the upset over the guy who I think most consider the favorite. 

    Usually if the tournament favorite is in a close match with a minute to go in the quarters, most people would find that interesting and that is a very real possibility here.

  6. Assuming the top 8 seeds hold, this bracket is awesome.... the quarterfinals in particular look stellar:  Colon/Garrett is always terrific, and Fix/Gross and Suriano/Nato are interesting style matchups that I don't think we have seen before.  

    Suriano got a good draw because he has beaten Colon and Garrett before, so unless Nato can pull the upset, seems like he is in a good spot to come out of the bottom half.  Graff should make the top half semi, but I think Fix and Gross are both challenging matchups because they are both very strong at countering leg attacks (which Graff loves to take), so he'll need to find a way to finish quickly (or get his par terre game going?) to make the final to face his old training partner 2 out of 3 for a trip to the WTT.


  7. It is weird since he is going to be the #1 seed, but absolutely no one is taking Graff at 61kg, so that is my upset pick.  Also, really hoping to see a Graff/Gross matchup at some point in this tournament.  I'm from Wisconsin, so I like the Badger vs Badger aspect, but also just the style matchup of two high-volume shooters would be a lot of fun.

  8. On 8/23/2021 at 7:34 PM, rpm002 said:


    So maybe it's Graff, Colon, Vito, Fix, Gross, Suriano, Garrett?  Any way you slice it there are going to be sick QF matchups in this bracket.  I think the 1 seed does matter in this bracket because to me those 7 should clearly be the top 7 seeds and they are a cut above any of the others (although both NATO and Zane have past wins over Graff so who knows....)

    With Vito out, Flo projects:

    1. Tyler Graff
    2. Daton Fix
    3. Joe Colon
    4. Seth Gross
    5. Nick Suriano
    6. Nathan Tomasello
    7. Shelton Mack
    8. Nahshon Garrett 

    I don't really get Fix over Colon.  Colon is a world medalist at his natural weight class and was 2nd at this weight last time.  Fix is coming up.  They have never met.  Both made the semis of the OTT at 57kg, but Colon lost to the eventual champion and bronze medalist.  Just not seeing a good reason to seed Fix higher.

    Also not sure Nato should be that high.  He did beat Garrett in 2019, but that was a couple years ago and at 57kg so not sure it is super relevant at this point.  I guess after the top 5, there's probably a lot of ways to seed the next several guys that would be defensible.

  9. 11 minutes ago, Housebuye said:

    Chael didn’t know it, but his constant praise of Graff totally blew up his (dumb) theory about how to fix Greco by using D1 AAs. That definitely helps, but they also need to be good at Greco technically, which obviously takes years of training. 
    big Graff fan. This isn’t meant to disparage him at all. 

    I mean, sort of.  I guess I would be charitable and assume the Chael meant D1 AAs that have upper-body attacks as a significant part of their arsenal, not D1 AAs that got there almost 100% through having great leg attacks (like Graff).


  10. 1 hour ago, nhs67 said:

    Suriano's win over Colon was 18 months ago.  He has lost to both Arujau and Gross.  He will be seeded behind both.

    I understand your stance on Graff.  While he hasn't had any domestic freestyle losses since he won the weight two years ago, he also had had zero wins.  Reward the idle who did not even medal?  They shouldn't.

    Colon has to be above Gross due to their OTT result.  You are probably right that Colon/Suriano was too long ago to count for much.   

    I don't think they will punish Graff.  He is a 61kg guy and couldn't go up or down.  What 61kg event did he not enter that he should have?  He has to be above Colon and Colon's only recent domestic losses are to Gilman I believe so keeping them 1/2 makes sense.

    So maybe it's Graff, Colon, Vito, Fix, Gross, Suriano, Garrett?  Any way you slice it there are going to be sick QF matchups in this bracket.  I think the 1 seed does matter in this bracket because to me those 7 should clearly be the top 7 seeds and they are a cut above any of the others (although both NATO and Zane have past wins over Graff so who knows....)

  11. 13 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

    If I were a guessing man, he may get the 1 seed, if entries hold.  He earned it, too.

    Graff will be #1 seed.  He won this weight the last time it was contested and has no domestic losses since, so I think that has to stand.  After that I have no idea... very difficult to seed.  My best guess:

    1) Graff 2) Suriano 3) Colon 4) Vito 5) Fix 6) Garrett 7) Gross 8) Mack 9) NATO 10) Richards

    Nico would also probably in the mix there somewhere if he registers.  Guys like Lizak and DeShazer are interesting too... such a fun weight!


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