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  1. 14 minutes ago, Red95 said:

    It seems like a better way to do it would have the non-olympic world champ in the 1 seed slot with byes to the semifinals. Then you draw the bracket normally for 2 through 7 seeds. If you want to go past 7 seeds, just skip 8 & 9 and put those people in where 10 and 11 would normally be drawn in. That way the 4/5 winner has to face the world champ and 2/3 wouldn't face the world champ until the finals of the challenge tournament.

    Agreed.


  2. 1 hour ago, Eagle26 said:

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    I think it’s easier to understand when you see the sample bracket. Here’s what it would look like if two medalists of non-Olympic weights entered the same bracket. If there is only one in the weight, they enter the bottom semifinal.

    That bracket works great if there are world medalists on both sides of the bracket.  It doesn't work at all with 1.  If you just cross out the world medalists on the top but keep the rest of the bracket the same, the 4 seed just has to beat the 5 seed and the 1 seed to make the final.  Meanwhile the 3 seed has to beat the 6, the 2, and the world medalist to make the final.  I think it's obvious that would be a terribly unfair setup.  


  3. If you are asking in terms of byes, I think it will look like this:

    57: no byes for anyone.  Will wrestle out the tournament and the top 2 will be in the final.  Assuming he can make this cut, would have been fascinating to see Graff get bronze so he would have a bye to the semis and would only have to win 1 match to get to the best-of-3 final.  

    65: same

    74: Burroughs will be sitting in the best of 3 final.  Dake will be sitting in the semifinal, so he will need to win 2 matches to get to Burroughs

    Side-note:  I still have not seen on this bracket will look.  Will the top 2 seeds (besides Burroughs and Dake) be on the opposite side as Dake?  I think that's how it should be.... basically treat Dake as the top seed with a bye to the semis, so the next two best guys are like the 2 and 3 seed on the other side of the bracket. If they do it any other way, it will be extremely unbalanced. But there is nothing in USA Wrestling's official document to suggest that is how they are looking at it. 

    86: Assuming J'den goes up, no byes for anyone.

    97:  Snyder is sitting the best of 3 final.  Cox is sitting in the semifinals, so he will need to win 2 matches to get to Snyder.  Same side-note as above applies

    125:  Wide open bracket

    So it in interesting no weight will have just 1 Olympic medalist.... 74 and 97 will have 2 and the rest will have 0.

     

    So to answer the original question:  definitely Burroughs and Snyder.  And those 2 will probably face Dake and Cox.  But other than that, it is pretty wide open.


  4. Final Standings:

    bnwtwg 100
    rpm002 72
    herma48852 61
    AZ_wrestling 61
    wrestlingnerd 51
    Chet 35
    cangemi 33
    nhs67 15
    steamboat_charlie OUT
    Ragu OUT
    lu1979 OUT
    Perry OUT
    RajaThaiKnee OUT
    OBXWrestler OUT
    Mdogg OUT
    Ragu OUT

     

    Wow bnwtwg... 10/10 is SUPER impressive! 

    PM me your Paypal/Venmo and I'll send you a small prize :)


  5. On 6/5/2019 at 10:47 AM, bnwtwg said:

    57 Fix LOCK
    61 Graff LOCK
    65 Zain LOCK
    70 Green LOCK
    74 Burroughs LOCK
    79 Dake LOCK
    86 The Scale LOCK (jk surely Downey won't miss weight but twitter would explode if he did)
    92 Cox LOCK
    97 Snyder LOCK
    125 Gwiz LOCK

    Updated standings reflecting Dake's win and the reopening of Yianni/Zain.

     

    bnwtwg 90
    rpm002 71
    herma48852 61
    AZ_wrestling 61
    Mdogg 52
    wrestlingnerd 51
    Chet 34
    cangemi 32
    nhs67 14
    steamboat_charlie OUT
    Ragu OUT
    lu1979 OUT
    Perry OUT
    RajaThaiKnee OUT
    OBXWrestler OUT
    Ragu

    OUT

     

    Poor bnwtwg had a perfect entry based on the original results, but based on the arbitration, he needs Zain to win one more match to complete his epic, perfect, 100 point victory.  

    I picked Zain too, but not as a lock, so I am rooting against my pick and for Yianni (actually I probably won't, but if I cared more about winning this contest, I would LOL).  If Yianni wins, I will be the champion (neither herma nor AZ made Yianni a lock, so they would not catch me in that scenario).


  6. The 2016 dark horses (Frank and Dennis) were not people unknown to freestyle, but rather people who were always right there but were overlooked because they never had their big breakthrough.  Candidates along those lines for 2020:

     

    Nico - He is the best equipped of the 61 guys to go down to 57 and I think he’s improved quite a bit over the past couple of years

    Frank - Kind of the forgotten man at 65kg, but his win over Oliver for 3rd makes me think another run is possible

    Ness - It is all matchups with him, but doesn’t seem impossible 

     

    (I know the lower weights the best, but I also think that’s where dark horses are most likely to prevail, as they did in 2016)

     


  7. There are usually some surprises (who picked Dennis or Frank in 2016?) so this is hard, but here is my shot.  Could easily wind up with just 0 or 1 right. :)

    57: Garrett (kind of the forgotten man, but he was wrestling so well last year.... look at his matches with Nico at WTT or especially match 3 of Final X last year)

    65: Oliver (don't think he was 100% this year, and he wasn't far behind the top 2)

    74: Burroughs (tempting to go in a different direction, but just can't do it) 

    86: Dieringer (this will seems like less of a surprise after he beats Dake)

    97: Cox (think he's defense will not allow Snyder to get much on him.... I see these 2 having 3 extremely tense matches)

    125: Gwiz (think Gwiz is a bit underrated for whatever reason... I expect him to medal again this year)


  8. My call was right, but the series did play out a little bit differently than I expected.  Colon made some great adjustments and didn't let Graff get to the outside single that Graff utilized in the 2017 meeting.  Graff seemed to actually shoot more doubles than usual, which seems odd given the opponent.  And the results in the beginning were mixed.  But Graff did a better job of finishing as the series went along.  His winning attack in match 3 started as a double, but transitioned to a single, but then just as he finished, he got back on Colon's other leg and quickly transitioned to the leg lace.  Very entertaining series and so happy Graff was able to pull it out.... can't think of anyone who deserves the opportunity more.

     


  9. On 6/5/2019 at 10:47 AM, bnwtwg said:

    57 Fix LOCK
    61 Graff LOCK
    65 Zain LOCK
    70 Green LOCK
    74 Burroughs LOCK
    79 Dake LOCK
    86 The Scale LOCK (jk surely Downey won't miss weight but twitter would explode if he did)
    92 Cox LOCK
    97 Snyder LOCK
    125 Gwiz LOCK

    Updated standings:

    bnwtwg 90
    rpm002 72
    AZ_wrestling 61
    herma48852 51
    wrestlingnerd 50
    cangemi 40
    Chet 34
    Ragu OUT
    Mdogg OUT
    steamboat_charlie OUT
    lu1979 OUT
    Perry OUT
    RajaThaiKnee OUT
    OBXWrestler OUT
    nhs67 OUT

    You can see bnwtwg's awesome entry posted above.  He is 9/9 so far.  I actually am 9/9 as well, but while I picked Fix and Zain, I didn't make them locks like he did, so kudos for bnwtwg for not only his awesome picks but is confidence to make them all locks.

    Still, the contest will come down to Dake/Dieringer.  If Dake wins, bnwtwg will score a perfect 100 points.  if Dieringer wins, bnwtwg will be out and I will be the winner.


  10. Nothing nearly as exciting as your suggestions.  "Training partner" made me LOL considering my wrestling experience is significantly lower than just about anyone else on this board.  My experience is more in creating sports contests. :) 

    I'm just a big Wisconsin Badger fan who, through the family I married into (my bro-in-law was a smaller school IL state champion), was introduced to wrestling around the time Graff and that group (Ramos, Colon, Brewer, etc) were entering college and really found it fascinating.  Always did really enjoy watching Graff wrestle.... from the interviews, etc. I've seen with him, he seems like a really great guy too.  Continued following that cohort in freestyle (which I personally like even better).  Think I could hardly have picked a more interesting group to follow (which is why I have continued to stick with them all these years). 


  11. 1 hour ago, scramble said:

     What I do remember is that Graff loses to guys who Colon beats

    Nah, I think this goes both ways.  Examples in freestyle that might support your point are Megaludis (although Graff did just beat him) and Escobedo (who beat Graff at WTT in 2015, but Colon beat him that same year).  But honestly, I can think there are more examples the other way.... Graff beat Simmons both times they wrestled, Colon never beat him.  Graff beat Brewer 4 times (including 2 techs and 1 pin), but Brewer teched Colon.  Graff beat Kindig in 2016, but Kindig beat Colon in 2017.  Graff beat Wright in their only meeting, but Wright beat Colon in 2017.


  12. Fix in 3 - All 3 matches will be close.  This is the only one of the 5 where I wouldn't be surprised at all if it went the other way.

    Graff in 2 - As detailed in my other thread, I think this is a favorable matchup for Graff.  

    Green in 2 - Deakin was underrated going into the Open, but Green will make adjustments and get the W.

    Burroughs in 3 - Not sure why, but have a strange hunch IMar will sneak out a match somehow.  But don't see Burroughs losing this in Lincoln.

    Snyder in 2 - Different year, same result.


  13. 10 minutes ago, FlyinLion said:

    You keep saying Cox lost to Bergman, but did they actually wrestle a match at the 2015 Open?  Track lists it as an injury default and I don't find any mention of an actual match.

    This is correct.  After losing to Synder, Cox won a consi semi vs. Michalak 4-1.  But he is badly hurting a the end of it, to the point that he asked the ref to raise his left arm because he can't lift his right one.  He then injury defaulted out of the 3rd place match.

    https://www.flowrestling.org/video/5516272-97kg-c-jden-cox-missouri-wrestling-foundation-vs-wynn-michalak-titan-mercury-wrestling-club-2mp4


  14. This might be the best match to look at to understand Colon's strengths and weaknesses.  Brewer wins 20-10;  he scores a variety of different ways, but note where Colon's points come from.  All 10 are on counters.  2 times in the match, Brewer shoots double leg attacks....  on both, Colon counters with his chest wrap and turns the situation into 4 for himself.  Colon also is able to fight from off his butt to flip Brewer and expose him after being taken down.  

    Note that Brewer is able to get 4 takedowns off of single leg attacks, including 3 in the second period (after he seems to have figured out what will/won't be effective vs. Colon).  

     

     


  15. NLWC prioritizes Taylor.  Nickal potentially getting a bye to the finals of Olympic qualifying at Taylor's weight would cause all sorts of headaches and messiness (think along the lines of the Ramos vs. Dennis aftermath, only tweak that scenario such that Ramos was coming off a world title and played a big role in putting Iowa on the wrestling map) that NLWC doesn't want to deal with.  Personally I think it is as simple as that.


  16. 3 hours ago, AZ_wrestling said:

    How many picks are busted now? Haha

    8.  Updated standings:

    bnwtwg 40
    rpm002 31
    AZ_wrestling 30
    herma48852 21
    wrestlingnerd 20
    Chet 12
    cangemi 10
    nhs67 Out
    steamboat_charlie Out
    Ragu Out
    RajaThaiKnee Out
    Mdogg Out
    lu1979 Out
    Perry Out
    OBXWrestler Out

  17. I'm pretty surprised the Flo guys and 80% of pickers in the final X pool are taking Colon over Graff.  Personally, I think Graff is quite likely to win this matchup.  Here's why:

    First, here is the history of Colon vs Graff:

    They met 3 times in their senior years in college.  Colon won 6-0 in a dual at UNI, Colon won 6-3 in the Midlands semifinals, and Graff won 6-4 in the NCAA semifinal.  Then they met in 2017 in the Dave Schultz semifinals, where Graff won 11-0.  In both folkstyle matches Colon won, he turned Graff from the top position twice and also got a riding time point.  In the NCAA semi, Colon got 2 escapes and 2 stall points from the top position.  And obviously in the freestyle matchup, Colon didn't score. There's two big things to note.  First the trendline is clearly in Graff's favor.... he's done better against Colon each time.  But even more critically:  Colon has 0 career takedowns vs. Graff in their 4 matchups (vs 5 for Graff)!  

    Now let's go to the tape from their 1 freestyle match-up:  

     

    Graff gets 2 takedowns, one at the 3:06 mark and one at the 4:45 mark of the video.  They are very similar and classic Graff single-leg attacks where he gets the leg, but keeps his body away and to Colon's side.  This is the best way to attack Colon  If you get between his legs (as Nico often does and Graff did at the 2:07 mark of this video, without success) or go for double legs (like Garrett often does), you leave yourself vulnerable to Colon's world-class chest wrap.  But swing singles are what Graff does and that is the best possible type of attack to have in your arsenal vs. Colon.

    Obviously if Colon does somehow get on top, his gut wrench is very dangerous.   But Graff's par terre is quite good as well and given the history between the two, he is the more likely to get a chance to use it.  

    The Flo guys haven't really gone into much detail but seem to be picking Colon with confidence because "Graff is inconsistent".  But in the time since getting teched by Graff above, Colon has losses to Wright, Kindig, Brewer (by tech), Garrett twice (the 2nd being a tech in the first 90 seconds), and Suriano.  So I don't really see one guy as  much more consistent than the other.  Both have had their share of big wins and tough losses.

    The bottom line is the way to beat Colon is to clear ties to stay out of trouble (avoid double unders), don't take bad shots that Colon will counter,  but instead selectively choose your spots to take single leg attacks.  Graff did this previously and his SKWC counterpart Suriano just did it against Colon as well.  Styles make fights and I think this Graff's style matches up very well and with Colon and he will prevail and advance to Worlds.

     

     

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