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  1. Rules:  You have $1500 to spend.  You pick a team of wrestlers competing at the US Open at the prices listed below.  Max 1 wrestler per weight class.  You can leave as many weights as you want empty (so at the extremes, your lineup could have as few as 3 wrestlers or as many as 10).  

    Points are awarded based on placement: 

    1st = 10 points,

    2nd = 6 points

    3rd = 4 points

    4th = 1 point

    Most total points wins.  I'll post results by the end of the weekend.  Might be a small prize for the winner... we'll see. :)

    Good luck!

    Due to confusion in the initial replies, I'm editing this post to add a clarification:  if you want a wrestler who isn't listed here, you have to name them.  "Anyone else" means "you can pick any other 1 wrestler at this weight", not "you get the entire rest of the field" :)

    57  
    Gilman  $        400
    Fix  $        300
    Tomasello  $        200
    Anyone else  $        100
       
       
    61  
    Megaludis  $        200
    Graff  $        200
    Whitford  $        200
    Clark  $        200
    Ramos  $        200
    Brewer  $        200
    Anyone else $         100
       
    65  
    Oliver  $        400
    Zain  $        300
    McKenna  $        200
    Molinaro  $        200
    Yianni  $        200
    Anyone else  $        100
       
    70  
    Green  $        500
    Chamberlain  $        200
    Nolf  $        200
    Anyone else  $        100
       
    74  
    Imar  $        600
    Gantt  $        200
    Anyone else  $        100
       
    79  
    Dieringer  $        600
    Marstellar  $        200
    Jackson  $        200
    Anyone else  $        100
       
    86  
    Brooks  $        300
    Martin  $        300
    Downey  $        300
    Heflin  $        200
    Anyone else  $        100
       
    92  
    Zilmer  $        300
    Nickal  $        300
    Macchiavello  $        200
    Moore  $        200
    Anyone else  $        100
       
    97  
    Gadson  $        500
    Walz  $        300
    Anyone else  $        100
       
    125  
    Coon  $        500
    Bradley  $        200
    Nelson  $        200
    Anyone else  $        100

     


  2. 61 is seeded very reasonably, IMO. They took the head to head results available as far as they could.  Nico beat Graff, Graff and Whitford both beat Clark, Clark beat Ramos.  Ramos has obviously had very strong results in the past, so he can't be any lower than 5.  Brewer won the Schultz, so he is 6.  The only one who might have a gripe is Dijulius, as he did beat Clark at this event last year.  But I don't think he has any other results to point to whereas Graff has teched Brewer multiple times and Whitford beat Mack and Rodriguez to come back for 3rd place at the Schultz.

    One thing I was watching for.... Ramos and Graff have never met in senior-level freestyle.... will it happen here?  Looks like they wouldn't hit each other until the final.  Would be pretty amazing if that was how it shook out.


  3. I think if you are JO/Zain, you want to avoid each other and Frank until the finals.  Most people seem to be talking about them as a clear top 2, but I see it as a clear top 3 and then a gap after that. People forget that Frank did beat Zain in match 1 when Zain made the team in 2017.  His run in 2016 also might suggest that Frank does better when no one is talking about him, which seems to be the case this year.  Not saying he'll necessarily win the Open, but I think Frank will be a very tough out.


  4. Colon is the world medalist at 61kg.  Let's look at his results against from the last 2 years against decent domestic competition .

    AWL Border Battle - beat Waters 7-6

    Final X 2018 - beat Garrett 7-5, lost to Garrett 10-5, lost to Garrett 12-0

    US Open 2018 - beat Megaludis 5-2, beat Brandon Wright 7-5, beat Garrett 20-13

    Dave Schultz Dec 2017 - beat Dardanes 14-12, beat Ramos 14-3, beat Garrett 14-3

    WTT 2017 - lost to Kindig 10-4, beat Gross 11-5, lost to Brewer 20-10

    2017 US Open - beat Gross 16-12, lost to Wright 6-6, defaulted out

    Dave Schultz Feb 2017 - beat Garrett 14-4, lost to Graff 10-0 

     

    So he is a 11-6 against good domestic competition.  4 of those wins were against Garrett, who seems to have now figured him out.  2 of them were against Gross in 2017, was good but quite young compared to most of these guys.  The others were a close win over Waters, a close win over Wright (who beat him previously), a close win over Megaludis, a tech over Ramos (who was undersized at this weight after the rule changes), a close win over Dardanes.  His loses include techs to Brewer and Graff (I think in both cases that was their only meeting in freestyle) and a loss to Kindig.

    If you think Suriano is at a similar level to guys like Waters, Wright, Dardanes, and Kindig, then I'd expect a pretty competitive match with Colon.  I'm not sure if he is, but to me that's the question.


  5. 37 minutes ago, wrestlingnerd said:

    Yes, they’ve done it before, and the most recent one actually involved Garrett. Matt McDonough went through a special wrestle-off with Garrett to make the university world team (before this became the U23 Divison) and then won a bronze medal. 

    I don't think that is applicable to this case.  It would be if Garrett had won a medal and then gotten hurt afterwards.  As it stands, Garrett made the team, so he has an invite to WTT, but Colon, as the world medalist, is the only one who would be entitled to a wrestle off. 


  6. On 4/7/2019 at 3:26 PM, scramble said:

    Is there any confirmation that Dake is going down for the world's?  I know that people tend to before the Olympic year, but I for some reason think he stays up, unless confirmed.  I do however think he goes down for the Olympics, and as much as it pains me to say it, I think this time he dethrones JB. The only thing, and I think it could happen to him or JB, is injury.  Both have had their fair share the last few years. 

    He's not going to Pan-Ams, which all the other world medal winners are.  If he was staying a 79kg this year, I would think he'd want the seeding points.  Suggests he has a different plan.


  7. According to his Instagram, he was just cleared to return to the mat in the past few days.  Given that, my uninformed guess would be the first time you see him will be WTT (which is he already qualified for).


  8. 7 hours ago, TripNSweep said:

    I do. But I'll let it be a surprise.  

    Haha, fair enough.  

    Here's the best way to think of 61KG.  Last month, Colon beat Waters in an exhibition match 7-6.  Colon is #1 at this weight.  Waters didn't make the top 10 recently published by USA Wrestling.  There are literally about 10 guys who could win this weight if they have a great day and get the right matchups, and I think most of them could beat Colon as well.

    A healthy Garrett would be the fairly strong favorite in my eyes, but if he is not in top form or gets upset,  I see this weight as very wide open.


  9. 20 hours ago, rpm002 said:

    Clark over Graff is ridiculous.  Graff beat him 11-4 in the Grand Prix of Spain finals 9 months ago.  Last year at the US Open, Graff was 4th and Clark was DNP.  Actually, that understates how awful his tournament was... Clark lost to DiJulius in his very first consolation match, 2 rounds before the "blood round" that determined who would finish in the top 8, so really he finished in 17th place, at best).  Since then, Clark has wrestled internationally a lot, but with limited success.  Pretty laughable it takes them a full year to put out rankings and this sort of indefensible garbage is the best they can come up with.

    I just remembered Whitford just beat Clark in Cuba as well, yet he is ranked 6 spots below Clark.  Hope they fix this nonsense for the US Open seeds.


  10. No, he was 4th in the Open, 3rd at Trials, and won the tournament in Spain in July (beating Clark in the final).  I think that's it for the last year.  It's just weird if his last match was soundly beating Clark why Clark would magically be ahead of him now.  Because Clark beat Ramos in an exhibition event?  That seems like the reason, but it isn't a very good reason.


  11. Clark over Graff is ridiculous.  Graff beat him 11-4 in the Grand Prix of Spain finals 9 months ago.  Last year at the US Open, Graff was 4th and Clark was DNP.  Actually, that understates how awful his tournament was... Clark lost to DiJulius in his very first consolation match, 2 rounds before the "blood round" that determined who would finish in the top 8, so really he finished in 17th place, at best).  Since then, Clark has wrestled internationally a lot, but with limited success.  Pretty laughable it takes them a full year to put out rankings and this sort of indefensible garbage is the best they can come up with.


  12. 3 minutes ago, Gantry said:

    Has Garrett wrestled at all since last year's Final X? 

    No, which you wouldn't expect.  He tore his pec in late fall and I think it is generally at least a 6 month recovery (although if anyone could do it faster, it would be Garrett).


  13. Anyone know Garrett's plan?  He's currently not registered for the Open. He is already qualified for WTT since he was on the World team last year (even though he didn't compete at World's) so thinking maybe he will take an extra month to heal and just wrestle at WTT? (while he wouldn't get a bye, he'd surely get the top seed at WTT)  If that's the case, 61 Open seems really interesting... the field is deep, but the top 2 won't be there, so someone who many are overlooking will get a bye to the WTT finals.


  14. I was a soccer player.... never wrestled.  When in college, my then-girlfriend-now-wife's brother was a very good HS wrestler in IL.  Going to the state tournament there was just so cool.  Saw guys like Tony Ramos and Brandon Precin who went on to have very strong college careers.  Started following Big Ten wrestling a bit, particularly Wisconsin (I grew up in Madison).  I continued to follow wrestlers like Graff and Howe in their international careers and found freestyle to be even more interesting than folk.  Today I follow college a little bit, but am mostly interested in the US Open/WTT/Final X. Things like Molinaro's run to the Olympics in 2016 and the Cox/Taylor and Dake/Burroughs matchups in 2017 are just awesome.  Wrestling at it's best is terrific.... such an underappreciated sport.


  15. Nico can wrestle with anyone that doesn't have an elite double.  Garrett is an awful matchup for him because he does have that and it completely neutralizes Nico's amazing splits/scrambling.  

    I think 61 is where perception and reality are most divergent.  The perception seems to be that Colon and Garrett are in a class by themselves and there is a huge gap to everyone else.  I would say Garrett (if healthy) is clearly the favorite but even after him, there isn't too big of a gap to guys like Colon, Nico (wrestled Colon close and got 3rd last year), Graff (teched Colon in their only FS meeting and lost 5-3 to Garrett), Brewer (teched Colon at 2017 WTT), and (when healthy) Gross (who has wrestled both Colon and Garrett close).

    Of course, Colon has a bye to FInal X, but I would make Garrett a big favorite to beat him if he gets there and I would make any of the rest of those guys a toss-up if they get that far.


  16. 2 hours ago, Coach_J said:

    This is our World Cup team.  Outside of Zain, who on this list is on anyone's radar to even have a chance to make the World team?

    57 kg/125.5 lbs. – Zach Sanders, Minneapolis, Minn. (Minnesota Storm)
    57 kg/125.5 lbs. – Zane Richards, Champaign, Ill. (Titan Mercury WC/Illinois RTC)
    61 kg/134 lbs. – Nico Megaludis, Pittsburgh, Pa. (Titan Mercury WC/Pittsburgh WC)
    65 kg/143 lbs. – Zain Retherford, State College, Pa. (Nittany Lion WC)
    70 kg/154 lbs. – Jason Chamberlain, Fresno, Calif. (Titan Mercury WC/Valley RTC)
    74 kg/163 lbs. – Isaiah Martinez, Champaign, Ill. (Titan Mercury WC/Illinois RTC)
    79 kg/174 lbs. – Tommy Gantt, Raleigh, N.C. (Titan Mercury WC/Wolfpack RTC)
    86 kg/189 lbs. – Sammy Brooks, Iowa City, Iowa (New York AC/Hawkeye WC)
    92 kg/202 lbs. – Hayden Zillmer, Minneapolis, Minn. (Minnesota Storm)
    97 kg/213 lbs. – Kyven Gadson, Ames, Iowa (Sunkist Kids/Cyclone RTC)
    125 kg/275 lbs. – Tony Nelson, Minneapolis, Minn. (Minnesota Storm)

    If Garrett is not 100% or someone else can knock him off, I think Nico had a chance.  He was right there with Colon (in deep on what would have been the winning shot in the last minute) when they wrestled at the US Open last year.  


  17. 3 hours ago, Underhook said:

     

    61: Colon. Part of me really wants to pick Fix/Garret to break through here, but Colon has been rock solid against world level competition the last twelve months. Give me the returning medalist

     

     

    Garrett winning wouldn't be a breakthrough.  Garrett won Final X the first time, including a quick tech in the decisive 3rd match.  For several years, Colon was underrated, but now I think the pendulum has swung the other way. 

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