Jump to content

rpm002

Members
  • Content Count

    545
  • Joined

  • Last visited

  • Days Won

    2

Reputation Activity

  1. Like
    rpm002 reacted to cwillaert in Random Trivia Question   
    Question 1 wasn't difficult. Question 2...there was zero chance I'd have come up with that one. 
  2. Like
    rpm002 got a reaction from cwillaert in Random Trivia Question   
    See if you can get either of these without looking up the answer.  The additional details provided in question 2 might help you to guess the answer to question 1.
    1) In 2017, 6 of 8 US wrestlers in MFS earned a medal at Worlds.  Which 2 MFS wrestlers represented the US that year but did not medal?
    2) In 2014, the 2 wrestlers who are the answer to question #1 competed in NCAAs at the same weight.  Surprisingly, neither of them were the #1 seed in their bracket.  Who was?
  3. Like
    rpm002 got a reaction from 1032004 in J'Den Cox Misses Weight   
    Wait, you are telling me that highly placed coaches with USA Wrestling are putting forward the version of the story that makes their fellow coach look good and makes the controversial decision USA wrestling made more justifiable?  Shocking!
    There are widely reported facts here... We know Cox arrived at the arena at 7:21AM, that the scales were scheduled to close at 8AM, and that Cox made weight at 8:13AM, but this was deemed to be too late, so he was not able to wrestle.  Given those facts, I don't see how anyone can conclude anything other than that Cox could have made weight easily if he had arrived a little bit earlier.  The part that we don't know is why Cox  showed up so late... was there a genuine scheduling mix-up or was Cox overconfident regarding how quickly he could cut the weight he needed to cut (or maybe a bit of both).  That's the question that would be interesting to have more information on, but obviously it can't be said that Cox had some huge weight problem given he did in fact make weight just minutes after the deadline.
  4. Like
    rpm002 got a reaction from Relentless125 in J'Den Cox Misses Weight   
    Wait, you are telling me that highly placed coaches with USA Wrestling are putting forward the version of the story that makes their fellow coach look good and makes the controversial decision USA wrestling made more justifiable?  Shocking!
    There are widely reported facts here... We know Cox arrived at the arena at 7:21AM, that the scales were scheduled to close at 8AM, and that Cox made weight at 8:13AM, but this was deemed to be too late, so he was not able to wrestle.  Given those facts, I don't see how anyone can conclude anything other than that Cox could have made weight easily if he had arrived a little bit earlier.  The part that we don't know is why Cox  showed up so late... was there a genuine scheduling mix-up or was Cox overconfident regarding how quickly he could cut the weight he needed to cut (or maybe a bit of both).  That's the question that would be interesting to have more information on, but obviously it can't be said that Cox had some huge weight problem given he did in fact make weight just minutes after the deadline.
  5. Haha
    rpm002 reacted to VakAttack in 65kg qualification   
    Wait, Takahashi is going to have to wrestle Higuchi, even though Higuchi missed weight?  Why? ;)
  6. Like
    rpm002 got a reaction from spladle08 in Will we see Dake vs Sidakov at Tokyo?   
    I come from the future.  Dake will be drawn into Sidakov's side, beat him, but lose to Chamizo and finish with silver.
  7. Like
    rpm002 reacted to boconnell in J'Den Cox Misses Weight   
    You absolutely would.  tOSU and NLWC have much bigger fanbases.  Tons of people would suddenly care most about the spirit of the rules.
  8. Haha
    rpm002 got a reaction from nhs67 in J'Den Cox Misses Weight   
    LOL, that was my reaction too! :)
  9. Like
    rpm002 reacted to VakAttack in J'Den Cox Misses Weight   
    *looks at self in the mirror*
    Huh?
  10. Like
    rpm002 got a reaction from Lurker in J'Den Cox Misses Weight   
    That's definitely fair... I don't know if there is any administrative component to KJ's duties or not. 
    My sincere thanks for the thoughtful reply.  A rare glimmer of rationality in what is mostly an abomination of a message board thread! :)
  11. Like
    rpm002 reacted to Lurker in J'Den Cox Misses Weight   
    when you take into understanding that his role and duties involve the development of the age group program “elite accelerator” and that his roles and duties have absolutely nothing to do with the administration and operation of national events, I think it makes it hard to come to that interpretation. If you want to bank on the fact he’s a USAW employee, you have to take into account what his duties are, and what departments he is in and/or responsible for. 
  12. Like
    rpm002 got a reaction from whaletail in Cox weigh-in update   
    (reposted from another thread since it is relevant here as well)
    Most wrestlers were wrestling in the first session, which started at 10 and knew the deadline was 2 hours before weigh-ins.  Cox was not wrestling in that session so may have had no idea when it started, since it wasn't relevant to him, so that was a key reference point he may not have had.  Or perhaps, he did know wrestling started at 10, and since he was told he had to make weight by 8:30 or 9, he just figured the best thing to do was to go weigh in shortly after 8 when most of the other wrestlers would have left and it wouldn't be so crowded.  
    I suspect you are correct that at some point in this timeline, he saw cues to indicate that other wrestlers needed to weigh in by 8, but given he had a specific later time he was told and also had a bye from the first session (and therefore had reason to believe that the times relevant to others do not apply to him), I can definitely see how he could have filtered what he saw to think others needed to hustle and weigh-in by 8, but he was OK as long as he weighed in by the deadline he believed was in place when he arrived.
  13. Like
    rpm002 got a reaction from matts1w in J'Den Cox Misses Weight   
    Mostly agree with this.  Only quibble is from everything that is known about J'Den and about the timeline of events, there is zero reason to think it was a lie and every reason to think it was an honest mistake, as there is no motive here, and no advantage gained.  But the fact that is true makes the actions of USA Wrestling even worse.
  14. Like
    rpm002 got a reaction from Crotalus in Cox weigh-in update   
    People who are "all over" things tend to not repeatedly post about them.....
  15. Like
    rpm002 got a reaction from Yellow_Medal in Cox weigh-in update   
    People who are "all over" things tend to not repeatedly post about them.....
  16. Like
    rpm002 reacted to jross in J'Den Cox Misses Weight   
    ...because rules guy wasn't running the scale... he thought about the situation and said... hmmm... our World Champion doesn't wrestle for well beyond 2 hours... lets make the right decision for this situation.
  17. Like
    rpm002 reacted to drag it in J'Den Cox Misses Weight   
    Thanks for the thoughtful response.  It's a plausible, though tragic, explanation.  What a mess, indeed -- although his and KJ's, not USAW's.  
    The more I think about it, I think that my joke about the headphones that they all wear being the culprit might have actually contributed to being oblivious.  People like them for a lot of reasons, including that they curtain off the rest of the world and let them focus on theirs; I wonder if he missed any audio signs because he didn't hear them and discounted any visual cues because he was in his own world with his music.  (This presumes he was wearing a pair and as of yet we have no Zapruder film to confirm or refute.)
  18. Like
    rpm002 got a reaction from GoNotQuietly in J'Den Cox Misses Weight   
    Mostly agree with this.  Only quibble is from everything that is known about J'Den and about the timeline of events, there is zero reason to think it was a lie and every reason to think it was an honest mistake, as there is no motive here, and no advantage gained.  But the fact that is true makes the actions of USA Wrestling even worse.
  19. Thanks
    rpm002 got a reaction from drag it in J'Den Cox Misses Weight   
    Most wrestlers were wrestling in the first session, which started at 10 and knew the deadline was 2 hours before weigh-ins.  Cox was not wrestling in that session so may have had no idea when it started, since it wasn't relevant to him, so that was a key reference point he may not have had.  Or perhaps, he did know wrestling started at 10, and since he was told he had to make weight by 8:30 or 9, he just figured the best thing to do was to go weigh in shortly after 8 when most of the other wrestlers would have left and it wouldn't be so crowded.  
    I suspect you are correct that at some point in this timeline, he saw cues to indicate that other wrestlers needed to weigh in by 8, but given he had a specific later time he was told and also had a bye from the first session (and therefore had reason to believe that the times relevant to others do not apply to him), I can definitely see how he could have filtered what he saw to think others needed to hustle and weigh-in by 8, but he was OK as long as he weighed in by the deadline he believed was in place when he arrived.
     
  20. Like
    rpm002 got a reaction from ssoH in Cox weigh-in update   
    People who are "all over" things tend to not repeatedly post about them.....
  21. Like
    rpm002 reacted to matts1w in J'Den Cox Misses Weight   
    He did make weight...no one disputes that.  He missed the cutoff time by about 15 minutes.  His camp claims that was an honest mistake; either that is true or a lie.  Any talk of what is truth here is just purely speculation.  No matter, that should be dealt with "in-house."  He should have been allowed to wrestle off, and the consequences of his discretion confronted by USA Wrestling and determined later.  Instead, they created a freakin' mess.
  22. Like
    rpm002 got a reaction from tbert in Cox weigh-in update   
    People who are "all over" things tend to not repeatedly post about them.....
  23. Like
    rpm002 got a reaction from TheOhioState in Cox weigh-in update   
    People who are "all over" things tend to not repeatedly post about them.....
  24. Like
    rpm002 got a reaction from cjc007 in Medal Count   
    57kg: Gilman wrestles well, but drops 2 to finish 5th
    65kg: DNQ
    74kg: Bronze, losing on a questionable call or two in a low-scoring match
    86kg: 5th
    97kg: 5th if Snyder, Silver/Bronze if Cox
    125kg: Bronze
  25. Like
    rpm002 reacted to VakAttack in JB sets precedent for Cox   
    Interesting idea. It's tough to see an arbitrator actually doing this (which you nacknowledge) given that Cox only had the bye to the semis, but this is a relatively equitable solution that penalizes Cox without going overboard.

    Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk

×
×
  • Create New...