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  1. I absolutely agree that it shouldn't be apart of the triala process. I was just stating gow i would change it if it had to be that way. I believe were actually more on the same page. I want a pro leauge but not at the peril of our trials
  2. I think youre focusing way too much on the fact that i said "we learned this in grade school". By no means am I saying that they are only cutting a couple of pounds to make weight. I am saying that in a format where they have to make weight multiple times they have the choice of either moving up or making the weight. Thats what we learned in grade school. Secondly, they obviously wouldn't make weight everyday. There is a system of every 2 weeks or so being put into play. I'm not saying it will be easy on them, but it may just be how the chips fall. Thats where that decision will have to come into play before the freestyle season begins.
  3. I think this is both a good and a bad thing, personally. Positives 1. It gives money to the athletes that are qualified. 2. We have a 7 week season of legit professional wrestling that may or may not be broadcasted on television. 3.The stakes are high now higher to win the US Open (not just place) and Last Chance Qualifier. It also puts even more importance on winning an NCAA title (Not that it needed much more). Negatives 1.I'm not sure that this is necessarily a negative and just more of a point, but we just won the WC with our traditional way of doing things. Does it really need to change? 2. Nothing is very clear when it comes to the "common sense" questions. I'll get to what I mean by that in just a bit. 3.With only 4 wrestlers being allowed to compete for the spot it really leaves very little opportunity for our country to bring the best guy... Keep in mind the fact that when Molinaro won the OTT he was the 9 seed. He didn't have NCAA eligibility, didn't win the US Open, and didn't compete at the Last Chance. 4. Weighing in multiple times over 10 weeks. This could be very hard on the body and it doesn't seem to be very beneficial with the new weigh in rules. I do have mixed feelings on this though. Common Sense Questions 1. What happens if 2 or 3 NCAA Champs all want to go the same weight? An example would be what if the 141,149, and 157 NCAA Champs all wanted to go 70 kg. Who would be granted the spot? 2.What if the US Open champion was the World Team member last year? Does the runner up get the US Open champs spot? 3. What if the US Open champion is also the NCAA Champion this season? Does the same rule apply? 4. What about weights that don't have a returning world team member? If we are getting 2 new weights added next freestyle season then who will get the returning world team member slots for those? 5.What if a returning world team member goes up a weight? Does he have to go through the same process? Who gets that spot if he moves up? How I Would Do This I like the idea for this to an extent. A 7 week season, athletes getting paid, events being televised, every match has big time implications. All of those are great things if you ask me. Although, I think it would be best if we took 8 wrestlers under the same format on a 9 week season. Lets just say you take the top 3 from the US Open, have a limit of 2 NCAA champs per weight, the returning world team member/medalist, Last Chance Qualifier Champ, and a wild card. In order to get paid the amounts that were stated, you must place in the top 4. One thing I really don't think should be an issue that a lot of people seem to have a problem with is the idea of weighing in multiple times over a 7 week period. Guys, these are professional athletes and have done this their whole lives. If they can't make the weight they should probably move up. We learned that when we were in grade school. That's just my 2 cents though. Not that it matters.
  4. Really hoping JO goes 70kg. I have my money on him beating Green.
  5. Just curious as to when they will be and who is wrestling what weights
  6. People who go on these message boards and say its a joke that a 16 or 17 year old kid didn't go a certain weight is ridiculous. It really shows you who isn't satisfied with their own wrestling career. Guys, this kid is a multiple time WORLD CHAMPIOIN! At any weight class this is a herculean feat. The sad thing is that the people on this message board are supposed to know more than the average joe about our sport..... yet somehow they don't understand how difficult it is to be a world champ at any weight.
  7. I think our system is pretty solid. The reason they get byes to the finals is because they have already proven that they are capable of obtaining a medal on the world stage. Why risk the possibility of your best guy getting stuck on a fluke in the quarters? I also firmly believe that this system sends our best guy about 90% of the time each year. With your logic of "A fresh Varner would have beat Snyder". I guess in the same breath you have to say a fresh Dake would have beat Burroughs. I'm a HUGE Dake fan, but I think we all know that it just doesn't work that way. It is a system that literally works as an advantage for our best guys and personally wouldn't have it any other way. A good example of this is the fact that Molinaro got a fluke win over Metcalf. Metcalf has straight up beat him 9/10 times but that one time just so happened to occur at the trials. Yes, Frank beat Brent but be honest when you say who you'd rather see rep us at the games between the 2. THAT is why we have this system.
  8. My stream is being screwy where are you guys watching?
  9. Dake will win a close one here with Cox. I know it may sound crazy by looking at the brackets with the points theyve each put up, but Dake finds ways to win man.
  10. Do I think Molinaro is the absolute best guy to send? Based on his past probably not, but TODAY he has beaten 3 opponents who collectively won 8 NCAA titles to his 1. The name of the game is win the OTT and you make the team and so far he has done what he needs to do. If you can beat Metcalf and Stieber in the same day then you're doing something right.
  11. I wouldn't say he's done nothing in the 3 matches he's wrestled, but with Metcalf and Stieber he really only hit one big move a piece and that's what won him both matches. I will say he is wrestling great, but I don't know how well it will transition overseas.
  12. JO is out now too.... Gimme Stieber at this point.
  13. Guys is it crazy to pick Retherford to beat James Green first round? is that going to be the most interesting first round match in mens freestyle?
  14. After studying Cox more and watching ALOT of his matches this morning..... I dont know man. I knew he was good, but with every match I watched I was just a little more impressed each time. He's gonna be HUGE at the weight and Dake is really gonna have to wrestle hard to win this match. Size advantage definitely goes to Cox and I really like his movement from his feet. Constant fakes and things of that nature may throw Dake off. Cox is really good about getting to the legs but he had a hard time finishing on McIntosh at NCAA's for example (until the last 15 seconds or so obviously) and that could be an issue as Dake has awesome defense from guys in on his legs. It will be interesting look for Dake to slow Cox down like he does against everyone. He's gonna have to work hard to shut a much larger J'Den Cox down though.
  15. I think iMar is just a little too big. Would be an awesome match if Zain was a full sized 57.
  16. "He's not a tweener, he's a 74" Hit the nail on the head there. The impressive thing about it is that he's a 74 that may very well be our rep at 86.
  17. I also want to say I absolutely agree that this is their most important match since the NCAA finals back in '13.
  18. Dake over Taylor at OTT in 2012 by FALL Dake over Taylor at All Star in 2012 by 2-1 DEC Dake over Taylor at Southern Scuffle in 2013 by 3-2 DEC Dake over Taylor at NCAA's in 2013 by 5-4 DEC Dake over Taylor at WTT in 2013 by 7-4 DEC Dake over Taylor at WTT in 2015 by 8-2 DEC Dake over Taylor at Sr. Nationals in 2016 by 11-4 DEC Thats Dake 7 Taylor 0... Gimme Dake until proven otherwise, but it will be a great match as usual.
  19. 57:If Nahshon can pull the weight(and wrestle at a high level) then he is my pick to win OTT and has MUCH better shot than the rest of the field to place at the games imo. 65:I like JO's chances on the international scene as well. I mean I know it seems like his offense has slowed down considerably, but hes also wrestling on American soil. EVERYONE involved with wrestling in the United States of America knows that Jordan Oliver is a slick dude and has a huge offensive arsenal so they know what to expect... Over seas I expect a different result. I also like James Green if he can handle the cut. Also don't forget Jimmy Kennedy and Logan Stieber I think they could also be in the running for a medal in Rio. Unfortunately, I just don't see it happening for Aaron Pico... 74:JB is JB and it will be a fun bracket to watch come together, but we know who will come out on top in the best of 3. 86:Guys, Kyle Dake has proven himself time and time again. We've only had glimpses of him overseas at this weight. If Dake can continue to wrestle how he did at Senior Nationals then I see no problem with picking him to make the team. The thing is Dake always wrestles better when the pressure is on him. I'm not saying a medal is guaranteed from him in Rio, but I will say I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if he brought one back. Same goes for Taylor, but he can't get over the Dake hump. Herbert is likely the favorite coming in, but I think Dake will come out on top. Ruth would be my pick here but he seems so unmotivated its not even funny. Maybe he will turn it on at the trials. 97:Kyle Snyder and Jake Varner are going to battle it out at this weight. I wouldn't mind either of them being our rep for Rio. 125:I so badly want to say Tervel is our guy at 125, but I really feel like Gwiz is taking over this weight. I also really like Gwiz's chances overseas.
  20. I think weights like 57kg, 65kg, and 86kg are going to be made much more interesting with Ramos, Metcalf, and Herbert having to battle through the brackets. Sooo does this mean the possibility of Metcalf/Green in the 65 semi or Herbert/Ruth in the 86 semi? I'm beyond excited!
  21. People consistently doubt Dake on these message boards comments like "Cox over Dake by several takedowns" sounds alot like Taylor over Dake a few years ago. Get real guys. He's our best shot and the only thing we can do is accept it.
  22. I'm not sure the story behind them going D2 but I am just curios what you guys think?
  23. Unfortunately, it probably won't happen in our lifetime, but it would be amazing if it did! The thing is D1 college wrestling is what the south needs. My theory is the reason football gets so many numbers on the high school, middle school, and even earlier is the fact that parents see places like Alabama,Tennessee, or Auburn right in their backyard. You always hear about kids signing to play football for big schools, but because of the lack of programs you will never hear about someone signing to wrestle. It pushes it to the side and makes it seem as if you are good at wrestling in the state of TN you have to wrestle for UTC or you have to move thousands of miles away. Look at Ohio State and the amount talent that comes from just Ohio alone. The reason is because their wrestling team has always been known as a really solid team and parents in that area put more of an effort into making sure their kids become great wrestlers so maybe they can get a scholarship. The main problem in the south is that parents see no future in the sport of wrestling because there is only a few schools that support the sport down here. Just like with any sport if you put enough emphasis on it and you get a good coaching staff then the best will come. Once you have a decent team that can compete then you will start seeing more people being interested. More people will say "I think I want my son to wrestle". Its all about getting it to trickle down.
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