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  1. 1 minute ago, ufo said:

    yeah the ref messed up, it was a dangerous angle while still in the single leg and then it turned into a roll and pin... it's the officials job to protect the athlete there, he didn't and unsurprisingly she got injured, hopefully not too badly.

    I'll put my conspiracy hat on and say he may have let the action go because he got a brief he was to try and encourage the development of wrestling in Kyrgyzstan, so to speak...

    I totally thought her knee got torn up just watching it.


  2. 8 hours ago, nom said:

    OK, what happened?  He was shut down in his loss.  Could not break through the head hands / positioning defense.  And when he did take big risks he was countered (I need to rewatch). I tend to think he is generally, at these very very high levels, on the wrong side of the strength comparison but that is a guess.  

    Expert opinions on where he needs to focus?

     

    No triceps.  Never gonna win without any.


  3. 2 hours ago, lu1979 said:

    I think 3 of the Japanese girls in this WC were Juniors eligible. Fujinami is 17, Ozaki is 18 and i'm pretty sure one of the others was 20.  CA wrestler probably knows for sure. 

    The only other Japanese World team member that's under 21 is the 55kg champ, Tsugumi Sakurai(20)


  4. 1 minute ago, lu1979 said:

    You are obviously very dialed in to what is going on vis a vis Japan's Women's FS team.  I love watching the Japanese woman compete - their technique is so nuch more refined than any other country US included.   - how do you manage to follow it so closely?  I would love to be able to watch some of their National or college competitions - There's a good idea for Flo!!!.

    lol Flo's not getting those rights.  I watch most of the matches.  But you also have to remember that nobody wrestles folk aka American style outside of the US.  When kids start wrestling in Japan, it's all freestyle.  Most of the successful womens wrestlers in Japan started when they were really, really young and had an older sibling wrestling or parents who wrestled.  I think it helps more to wrestle folk for men as DT has showed because he's been using folk to pin guys in freestyle lol.

    As in the most recent and most visible case(2021 53kg Gold), Akari Fujinami's brother is Yuhi Fujinami(2017 bronze 70kg).

    I saw Yui Susaki in a match when she was pre-cadet age and she teched the other girl so fast, it should have been criminal!


  5. 13 hours ago, lu1979 said:

    Yes but a lot of these wrestlers are very young and just now stepping up to compete on the senior level.  I think you have to wait to see how they fare against the established stars in the next competition before you know really know where they fit in Japan's pecking order.  Although I would not pick anyone to beat Susaki I don't think it is beyond reason to see some of the other young stars you show as "unranked" emerge as the # 1 for Japan at next years Worlds and beyond.  My money would be on Fujinami, Nanjo, Ozaki, and Miyaji to emerge sooner than later.

    My whole point in posting that list is to show everybody how deep Japan is and what these women wrestlers ranked in Japan before they secured their spot on the World Team for this year minus the Olympians.

    50kg Yoshimoto is really good and trains with the Kawai sisters, but she's not touching Susaki.  Susaki beat her once already when Susaki tried to come back too early with a dislocated elbow in 2019.

    53kg- It's going to be a serious war between Mukaida and Fujinami.  Mukaida just got married after the Olympics, so her focus might have been taken away just a little bit, but who knows.

    55kg- Sakurai.  She's also really good, but more than likely, Nanjo will drop to 55kg from 57kg because she already trains at Shigakkan University with Risako and Yukako Kawai.  She won't try to take the 57 spot from Risako because she can't beat her anyways.

    57kg- Risako Kawai also just got married, but I know she's going to keep competing for sure. 

    59kg-  Akie Hanai also trains at Shigakkan University with Nanjo and both Kawai sisters.

    62kg- Yukako Kawai vs Ozaki for sure.  Ozaki was seconds away from taking out Tynybekova and I think she would have won the world title this year had that happened.

    65kg- This weight is too unpredictable because a lot of wrestlers moved around for this weight.  Morikawa got a lot better because she currently attends NSSU where she's being coached by Kaori Icho.

    68kg- Same as above.  Dosho has owned this weight in Japan since the last quad, but she's probably going to hang it up soon. After that shoulder injury a few years ago, she's not the same.

    72kg-  Same as 65kg and 68kg.

    78kg- Same as 65, 68and 72kg.

     


  6. 8 minutes ago, ufo said:

    Mukaida has been a bit flakey (by J-women's 1st team standards) - bottled it in 2017, blew it at the 2020 asians, and was beaten by the PRK girl at the 2019 asians & worlds (the latter a 12-1 tech fall). I see Fujinami taking that spot in a year or two, then Japan have Susaki, Fujinami, and Ozaki to rule & 50, 53, and 62 for the next couple of cycles (plus a Kawai or two, if they stick around). The growing depth of women's wrestling will see them get squeezed out of the 2 heaviest weight categories completely though IMO.

    Totally agree.


  7. Going into 2020 and Japan's National tournament(All-Japan), this is how each Japanese womens rep ranked within Japan.

     

    50kg Yoshimoto Japan #5 50kg

    53kg Fujinami Japan unranked
    55kg Tsugumi Sakurai unranked
    57kg Nanjo unranked
    59kg  Hanai Japan #3 at 57kg
    62kg Ozaki unranked
    65kg Morikawa Japan #5 at 62kg
    68kg Miyaji unranked
    72kg Furuichi Japan #3 at 76kg
    76kg  Matsuyuki Japan #2
     
    The way the Japanese selection process works for their World Team is that they have 2 national tournaments every year.  If there are different winners in a weight class for each tournament, then there is a single playoff match to determine the rep.
     
    Because the pandemic delayed the Olympics for a year and Japan's mid-year national tournament is always in May, none of the Olympic team members chose to enter the tournament because it's way too close to the Olympics.  Only a few of Japan's #2s chose to participate at the tournament this past May, which is why you're seeing such a young team.
     

  8. 2 hours ago, Jon_Kozak said:

    Yeah Japan's depth is insane...I think this team is a mix of their 2's and 3's. It's also a very young team, only 1 has wrestled at sr worlds in the past - the 72kg rep (she took world bronze in 2019). 8 of the other 9 reps are all age level world champions. USA could have 4 head to heads with Japan today - Sarah's finals opponent and all but Kylie have Japan on the same side of the bracket. 

    At 62kg yesterday, I really think that if Japan's rep(Nonoka Ozaki) beat Tynybekova, then she goes on to win.  Tynybekova barely beat her right when time expired.  Ozaki came back through repechage and teched her opponent in the 3rd place match.  It's going to be real interesting when the time comes for Japan's National tournament in Dec because if Yukako Kawai enters, she's going to be facing Ozaki for sure.


  9. 5 hours ago, ShakaAloha said:

    The depth of Japan's womens team is better than that of Russia's mens team imo

    I agree.  What a lot of people don't realize is that most of the women wrestlers that finished 2nd for the Olympic spot didn't wrestle to qualify for the world team.  Mostly the 3s and 4s and below.


  10. 1 hour ago, Jon_Kozak said:

    Yeah Japan's depth is insane...I think this team is a mix of their 2's and 3's. It's also a very young team, only 1 has wrestled at sr worlds in the past - the 72kg rep (she took world bronze in 2019). 8 of the other 9 reps are all age level world champions. USA could have 4 head to heads with Japan today - Sarah's finals opponent and all but Kylie have Japan on the same side of the bracket. 

    Unfortunately, I don't think Kylie gets past her first match with Turkey.


  11. 5 hours ago, ShakaAloha said:

    Sarah would be #3 at best on the Japanese ladder as well.  I see this match being a lot closer than you.  Yoshimoto teched Vuc in the semis.  Hilde wrestled Vuc in 2020 and only beat her by 2 points.  Don't sleep on Yoshimoto because she's third-string, especially when two of the top three in the world are the women ahead of her.

    I'm not sleeping on Yoshimoto at all.  I know how good she is.  I'm just saying Sarah should win and I agree with you....she would be #3 in Japan.  I don't think she beats Irie and definitely not Susaki at this time.  I don't think she would beat Stadnik if they ever met.

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