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  1. 4 hours ago, DanGerMan said:

    In the post finals press conference, he was asked if he planned on being there. He said it would be a tough cut to make 57 but he was going to be working out with Gilman and may try a small cut to see how it goes but sounded like he wasn't really in to the idea. He said he was definitely in for 2024.

    RBY is another tweener.


  2. 4 minutes ago, Drake_Mallard said:

    He was also waaaay better in high school and destroyed Alex in the all-star. Its not a comparison between the two. Im comparing Mark Hall as a high schooler and now and the difference after 4 years at PSU is not much

    Wasn't that the match where Alex got beat so bad by Mark that he started going bald?


  3. 4 hours ago, wrestlingnerd said:

    There's also the possibility Zahid goes 79 kg. He can definitely make the weight and he is not that large for 86 kg. And if he can't beat DT or Nickal, I don't see why he wouldn't give 79 kg a shot a year after the Olympics. I don't like Hall's chances of ever making a senior world team.

    Yeah, very true.  Zahid wrestled 79 kg back in 2019, so anything is a possibility.


  4. 7 hours ago, AnklePicker said:

    I disagree. He’s always had a kind of disinterested looking style but he’s an absolute beast.  With his recent move to Penn and Burroughs coming in I don’t think his had enough wrestling. He can also go 79 next year. If Burroughs and Dake both stay down and Zahid and Taylor both stay up, I like his chances. 

    But what if Imar and Ringer are at 79kg next year?  I think the last time Imar and Hall wrestled was in HS at Freakshow, where Hall won.  They are both obviously way better now and this is freestyle, not folkstyle.  I don't ever remember Hall wrestling Ringer unless I'm forgetting.


  5. 10 hours ago, NJDan said:

    It's weird. In college, Hall and Valencia were both 174. Now they are both at 189, but Valencia looks so much bigger that Hall and just as big as Martin who was 184 in college.

    Also weird that after the college rivalry, Zahid toyed with Hall today.

    It's not weird that Zahid toyed with Mark.  Zahid is way better in neutral than Hall is.  Although Zahid didn't tech Mark, he also beat him pretty easily the last time they met in 2019 at the WTT.  I know it's an Olympic year, but Mark is unfortunately a tweener and should be competing at 79kg.


  6. 4 hours ago, hammerlockthree said:

    yeah....whats your point.

    You said there's something sneaky and gross about it(foreigners coming here to train then go compete for a different country).

    But how about when Valentin Kalika took Helen Maroulis, Elena Pirozhkova(both 2016 Olympians), Aaron Pico, Jake Herbert and Victoria Anthony to Russia to train many times for up to a month to prepare for the Olympics where Helen won the gold medal?  Over a few years, they trained with Saitiev, Gatsolov, Ramonov, Sadulaev, Gadisov, Gazimagomedov,  and a ton of the other top Russians.


  7. 12 hours ago, hammerlockthree said:

    You make great points, and I maybe I am too puritanical, but there is something sneaky and gross about it to me. 

    Also, and please remember my history of hyper cynical posts, but I really do believe in the US and think there is an element of ingratitude to casually running off to wrestle for another country at the Olympics.   

    You do know that athletes from a lot of different sports train and live in different countries(that they weren't born in or represent), right?


  8. 23 hours ago, lu1979 said:

    I often wondered if any of the top programs thought of going after the 19 year old Ottogura after he won Worlds in 2018.  The same could be said about a lot of guys winning cadet & junior medals.  I guess proficiency in English may be one obstacle but at that age you would think that could be overcome.  The last interview I saw with A. Echemedia he seemed to have picked up a lot more English already.

    I'm pretty sure Otoguro was already in college at Yamanashi Gakuin University for his freshman year. 


  9. 19 hours ago, ShakaAloha said:

    You keep modifying your criteria so it fits the narrative of the statement you made in your original post that, "almost anybody from Hawaii has judo experience if they also wrestle."  If you go with your new definition, then it applies to almost anyone.  I think a more reasonable definition for "judo background" would be taking formal classes from a judo blackbelt and earning judo rank, which could be as little as yellow belt (gokyu).  

    I'll concede that there is heavy crossover between the wrestling and judo communities in Hawaii, and a significant percentage of accomplished wrestlers out of Hawaii have a judo background.  But not every Div. 1 or USWNT wrestler from Hawaii has a judo background. 

    Since the three NAIA champs from Hawaii I named previously didn't fit your criteria as having "done well in college wrestling," I will give you more examples.  Tiare Ikei, who won the 2019 US Open at women's freestyle 53kg over Katherine Shai, does not have a judo background.  Same with her brother who wrestled for 2 years at ASU.  Kysen Terukina, who was ranked #11 in the country at 126 by Flo last season and is a freshman this year at Iowa State, also does not have a judo background.  Same with his teammate Corey Cabanban, who is the second string 125 at ISU, as well as Kysen's older brother who was a two year starter at ISU several years ago.

    Ok, let's say then that there are some wrestlers from Hawaii with judo training so your arteries won't burst....lmao


    Good examples of the other kids.


  10. 1 hour ago, ShakaAloha said:

    I would agree with "tremendously higher percentage," but you previously said "almost anybody" which is not correct.  

    I don't know what your standard is for doing well in college wrestling, but Bill Stonebraker was an NAIA champ for Pacific in the 1990's, Blake Cooper was a NAIA champ in 2016, and Blaysen Terukina is the 2020 NAIA champ.  All three are not judo guys.  As I pointed out previously, Nakamura from ISU who was a 3x NCAA qualifier, also is not a judo guy.

    I know Clarissa, Travis, and David very well.

    I'm not saying they had to be judokas for years or have competed in tournaments at all.  Judo exposure at some point in Hawaii is inevitable.  It could have been like our room.  A few of us practiced judo after wrestling practice or during the off season.  We had a multiple time  jr national champion who was very, very good and one of our guys also competed for Mexico in the '92 Olympics in Judo.  The rest of us didn't belong to a judo dojo.  We only practiced with our small group and that's judo experience.  We used a lot of judo moves for takedowns all the time and it definitely helped when tying up while in neutral.


  11. 1 hour ago, ShakaAloha said:

    I would agree with "tremendously higher percentage," but you previously said "almost anybody" which is not correct.  

    I don't know what your standard is for doing well in college wrestling, but Bill Stonebraker was an NAIA champ for Pacific in the 1990's, Blake Cooper was a NAIA champ in 2016, and Blaysen Terukina is the 2020 NAIA champ.  All three are not judo guys.  As I pointed out previously, Nakamura from ISU who was a 3x NCAA qualifier, also is not a judo guy.

    I know Clarissa, Travis, and David very well.

    Specifically referring to D1 or Womens


  12. 12 hours ago, ShakaAloha said:

    A higher percentage of wrestlers from Hawaii have judo experience compared to other states, but I can name many Div. 1 wrestlers from Hawaii that don't/didn't. 

    Not just a higher percentage....a tremendously higher percentage because it's a state sport.  The only other real place I can think of that's been huge for Judo on the collegiate level has been San Jose State.

    Anybody from Hawaii who has ever done well in college wrestling has had a judo background.  Travis Lee or David Terao for example.  Clarissa Chun as well, but you'd better know that with your username....

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