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  1. That's the 2019-2020 roster, not this year's roster. I believe PSU is the only team to not post a 2020-2021 roster yet. Neither Lee nor Kerkvliet are listed on their trackwrestling roster (which is for 2020-2021).
  2. 2002 - Rob Rohn vs. Josh Lambrecht. I don't think it was a big upset before the match started, but Lambrecht was up by 10+ and well, he didn't win....
  3. I don't think they take that into account, not 100% sure though.
  4. I know why Nolf has one loss, was questioning why Kemerer has 2, he entered the tournament with 0 losses, got pinned by Jordan and MFFed out just like Nolf, yet he has an extra loss.
  5. I tried to look at the wins/losses for each guy on paper and take emotion/eye test out of it. There will definitely need to be quite a few subjective decisions made by the seeding committee, and a lot will come down to how the coaches rank comes out. That said, here's my best guess at the top 12 seeds at each weight for NCAAs: 125 #1 Darian Cruz (LEH) 26-0 #2 Nathan Tomasello (OHST) 11-1 #3 Nick Suriano (RUT) 21-0 #4 Spencer Lee (IOWA) 17-2 #5 Sean Fausz (NCST) 14-2 #6 Ethan Lizak (MINN) 26-5 #7 Nick Piccininni (OKST) 23-3 #8 Ronnie Rios (ORST) 19-4 #9 Sebastian Rivera (NW) 26-5 #10 Taylor LaMont (UVU) 25-3 #11 Sean Russell (EDIN) 30-5 #12 Louie Hayes (UVA) 29-6 Any of the top 3 could be seeded #1. Lizak/Piccininni was tough at #6. 133 #1 Seth Gross (SDST) 24-1 #2 Stevan Micic (MICH) 22-2 #3 Luke Pletcher (OHST) 26-2 #4 Kaid Brock (OKST) 25-3 #5 Scott Parker (LEH) 18-3 #6 John Erneste (MIZZ) 24-2 #7 Austin DeSanto (DREX) 28-5 #8 Montorie Bridges (WYO) 32-4 #9 Jack Mueller (UVA) 21-5 #10 Dom Forys (PITT) 21-4 #11 Dennis Gustafson (VT) 23-7 #12 Josh Terao (AMER) 29-8 Where to put Parker was the hardest decision. He beat Brock h2h and placed higher in his conference tournament but Brock had a higher RPI, win % and coaches rank and beat more wrestlers in the field. Erneste shouldn't be seeded that high in my opinion, his best win is Gustafson, but he has a good record, won the MAC and was ranked high in the coaches ranking so will likely get a high seed. 141 #1 Bryce Meredith (WYO) 29-1 #2 Jaydin Eierman (MIZZ) 28-1 #3 Yianni Diakomihalis (CORN) 29-1 #4 Joey McKenna (OHST) 16-1 #5 Kevin Jack (NCST) 18-3 #6 Dean Heil (OKST) 23-5 #7 Mason Smith (CMU) 31-5 #8 Michael Carr (ILL) 17-5 #9 Josh Alber (UNI) 26-6 #10 Brock Zacherl (CLAR) 27-1 #11 Nick Lee (PSU) 27-5 #12 Tyler Smith (BUCK) 27-4 The top 3 all beat each other but that's how they looked in the pre-conference coaches ranking so I assume it won't change. #7-12 was tough here. 149 #1 Zain Retherford (PSU) 26-0 #2 Brandon Sorensen (IOWA) 21-2 #3 Grant Leeth (MIZZ) 22-2 #4 Troy Heilmann (UNC) 28-4 #5 Ke-Shawn Hayes (OHST) 27-5 #6 Ryan Deakin (NW) 30-6 #7 Justin Oliver (CMU) 25-5 #8 Jason Tsirtsis (ASU) 17-6 #9 Boo Lewallen (OKST) 27-5 #10 Max Thomsen (UNI) 25-7 #11 Matthew Kolodzik (PRIN) 24-5 #12 Colton McCrystal (NEB) 21-5 Heilmann might look high here but he has a h2h win over Hayes, placed higher at the conference tournament, has a better win %, better RPI and better wins overall. Where to put Oliver is very tricky after his bad showing at the MAC tournament, he did have wins over Deakin and Heilmann but it's hard to leave him at #4 after the losses he took. 157 #1 Hayden Hidlay (NCST) 22-0 #2 Joey Lavallee (MIZZ) 29-1 #3 Jason Nolf (PSU) 21-1 #4 Michael Kemerer (IOWA) 22-2 #5 Josh Shields (ASU) 29-2 #6 Alec Pantaleo (MICH) 17-5 #7 Micah Jordan (OHST) 22-6 #8 Andrew Crone (WISC) 27-10 #9 Tyler Berger (NEB) 22-8 #10 Archie Colgan (WYO) 32-7 #11 Clayton Ream (NDSU) 23-4 #12 Mitch Finesilver (DUKE) 17-4 I think it's interesting that the NCAA has Nolf with 1 loss but Kemerer with 2, when they both defaulted to the same spot in the big 10 and Kemerer entered the tournament with 0 losses and Nolf had 1 coming into the tournament. Maybe it's an oversight that will be corrected. On paper, Kemerer has a better resume than Nolf this season. Nolf's best wins are Pantaleo and Finesilver, whereas Kemerer has beaten Shields and Jordan. Nolf's loss (to VanBrill by default) is also worse than Kemerer's loss to Jordan. Lavallee's best win is Colgan and he should probably be behind both of them, but I don't think they will reward Nolf and Kemerer for defaulting out. 165 #1 Isaiah Martinez (ILL) 14-0 #2 David McFadden (VT) 31-0 #3 Vincenzo Joseph (PSU) 20-2 #4 Richie Lewis (RUT) 18-4 #5 Alex Marinelli (IOWA) 16-3 #6 Evan Wick (WISC) 23-6 #7 Logan Massa (MICH) 16-6 #8 Chad Walsh (RID) 24-1 #9 Chance Marsteller (LHU) 40-2 #10 Chandler Rogers (OKST) 20-3 #11 Isaiah White (NEB) 23-6 #12 Nick Wanzek (MINN) 22-10 This weight is insane, the Round of 16 on is going to have some awesome matches. 174 #1 Zahid Valencia (ASU) 27-0 #2 Mark Hall (PSU) 28-0 #3 Daniel Lewis (MIZZ) 29-0 #4 Jordan Kutler (LEH) 24-3 #5 Myles Amine (MICH) 21-6 #6 Bo Jordan (OHST) 23-5 #7 Taylor Lujan (UNI) 28-5 #8 Jadaen Bernstein (NAVY) 22-5 #9 Keaton Subjeck (STAN) 26-7 #10 David Kocer (SDSU) 25-6 #11 Jacobe Smith (OKST) 19-5 #12 Yoanse Mejias (OU) 28-9 I feel pretty good about the top 8-10 or so but after that it gets a bit dicey. 184 #1 Bo Nickal (PSU) 26-0 #2 Myles Martin (OHST) 27-2 #3 Ryan Preisch (LEH) 14-2 #4 Domenic Abounader (MICH) 23-5 #5 Pete Renda (NCST) 21-2 #6 Taylor Venz (NEB) 23-7 #7 Zack Zavatsky (VT) 28-5 #8 Emery Parker (ILL) 21-3 #9 Ricky Robertson (WISC) 24-9 #10 Drew Foster (UNI) 25-4 #11 Max Dean (CORN) 28-3 #12 Bryce Carr (CHAT) 26-5 #13 Nick Gravina (RUT) 17-5 Added a 13th here because I couldn't decide, you could put Gravina anywhere from #10-13. 197 #1 Ben Darmstadt (CORN) 30-1 #2 Kollin Moore (OHST) 22-2 #3 Willie Miklus (MIZZ) 22-3 #4 Jared Haught (VT) 26-2 #5 Michael Macchiavello (NCST) 17-3 #6 Shakur Rasheed (PSU) 20-3 #7 Nate Rotert (SDSU) 28-4 #8 Preston Weigel (OKST) 12-2 #9 Frank Mattiace (PENN) 28-6 #10 Kevin Beazley (MICH) 16-9 #11 Cash Wilcke (IOWA) 18-7 #12 Scottie Boykin (CHAT) 26-6 The seeding at this weight could go a number of different ways. Darmstadt has one loss that he avenged and beat Miklus and Rasheed. Moore lost to Macchiavello but pinned Haught and has the best wins overall. Miklus pinned Haught and beat Weigel but in addition to Darmstadt lost to Chaid and the redshirting Warner. Macchiavello lost to Weigel and Haught twice but beat Moore. Rasheed lost to the top 2 guys and also Conel, and doesn't quite have the wins of the others. 285 #1 Kyle Snyder (OHST) 12-1 #2 Adam Coon (MICH) 25-1 #3 Nick Nevills (PSU) 26-5 #4 Jacob Kasper (DUKE) 35-2 #5 Sam Stoll (IOWA) 19-4 #6 Amarveer Dhesi (ORST) 20-2 #7 Nathan Butler (STAN) 24-7 #8 Tanner Hall (ASU) 20-6 #9 Youssif Hemida (MD) 27-5 #10 Derek White (OKST) 23-2 #11 Jordan Wood (LEH) 19-5 #12 Mike Hughes (HOF) 34-3 I think Coon has a very good case to be #1 seed even after losing B10s, but I don't think the committee will put Snyder #2. They split h2h (25%), Coon has a better win % (10%), RPI (10%), and quality wins (20%). Snyder takes Coaches Rank (15%) and Conference placement (10%), record vs. common opponents is a wash since they only lost to each other. In addition to beating Coon, Snyder has beaten Nevills twice and Boykin. Coon has beaten Snyder, Nevills, Stoll twice, Butler, Hall twice, Wood and Jennings. I also think there is a case to be made for Stoll over Kasper, they both lost to Nevills but Stoll beat Hall while Kasper was pinned by him. Stoll's only other losses are to Coon.
  6. Anybody know when Austin Matthews will be back in the lineup?
  7. That's not how rankings work, so it really isn't preposterous. On intermat he's ranked #7 because he has wins over #8 Wellington and #17 Huntley, when he beats a top 6 guy I'm sure he'll continue to move up, but until then they can't really rank him ahead of guys with better college resumes. Now if someone said they think he's the 9th best guy at the weight I'd agree with you that that is a bit preposterous, but none of the ranking publications are saying that. They are saying that he has the 7th or 9th best college resume at 197, which is pretty impressive considering he's only wrestled 5 or so college matches. Personally I think he'll end up in the Schiller/Cox/Gadson tier, but until he has wins comparable to those guys he won't be ranked that highly.
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