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Posts posted by hammerlockthree

  1. 14 hours ago, JBluegill133 said:

    Not to derail this riveting thread but I saw that RBY and Mueller are now on the ticket....this may be a stupid question but I know i've heard FLO is shelling out some pretty big checks for the competitors....since these two are still in NCAA or at least RBY is (cant remember if muelle graduated already) they couldn't accept these checks correct?

    how is this not its own topic.

  2. 25 minutes ago, balanceseeker said:

    I had already said that I believed Taylor had the superior freestyle career so I wasn't piggybacking on you.  You said a guy who won a world title wasn't successful when this is the epitome of success in the sport.  That is not a semantic argument it is a false statement presumably meant to diminish the accomplishments of Stieber.

    Why are you making false statements meant to diminish the accomplishments of Stieber?

  3. 15 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

    St. John, probably.

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    Fittery majored St. John immediately after getting beat badly by Taylor.

    Obviously St. John got a title eventually, but we can do the side by side comparison when they actually wrestled Taylor.

  4. Well Taylor has more compelling narratives. The shocking loss to Bubba and "rivalry" with Dake were insanely dramatic moments, and as you said way more digestible than winning a NCAA title so ugly it inspired a rule change immediately.  

    Another comparison, we still hear as much or more about Mark Perry as we do about Stieber, and the only reason is that his story had just about everything you could imagine packed into it. Was he in any way comparable to Stieber as a wrestler? No but he had a better narrative. 

    We hear 10x as much about Downey as Stieber, and they aren't even in the same universe as wrestlers.

  5. Its a good question.

    Taylor had the added appeal of dominating while looking like a 13 year old boy half his career, where as Stieber was often complimented (dismissively) for his freakish strength.

    Taylor had a much more dynamic style, it seemed like you never knew what he was gonna pull out, meanwhile Stieber just fired off lefty off his lefty sweep/low double combo and no one could stop it. 

    Fair or not, stiebers off year world title does not have anywhere near the luster of Taylors title at an olympic weight. Stieber also got completely clowned several times at the senior level which is hard to imagine happening to taylor.

    In my mind the wins over Yazdani Chariti are what put Taylors career on another level.

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