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Posts posted by Shiraz123

  1. 3 minutes ago, irani said:

    That may be, but I want Karimi to at least put up a good fight.  I think he has a mental block with Cox.

    This reminds of of Heidari vs Kurtanidze where Heidari seemed like he lost the match before the match even started.  I remember in the finals, the announcer, Farvashi was so disappointed that he said in disgust "It appears that Heidari is happy with silver medal"  and then in their final match heidari beat him

    So it's not so much that I want Karimi to beat Cox, I just want him to show up


    Unfortunately he is going in the wrong direction. He wrestled Cox a lot better last year. Maybe because that match was in the middle of the tournament and this time he had a whole night and day to sit around worry about it. Or maybe Khadem gave him a better plan, who knows. 


    Kurtandize was at least a few years older than Heidari. That 2004 match was his third Olympic games. Karimi is a year older than Cox. 

  2. Sometimes the other wrestler is just better. Russians have the best coaches in the world and Rahimi eliminated their wrestler in 2014,2015 and 2016. Esmailpour used to do the same thing every match but he always won against Americans except for one loss where he went up to 65 briefly and was too small.  If Karimi wrestles Cox at 97 it will  be even worse in my opinion. His chance was at 86 where Cox was at least drained from the cut but he lost anyway. I will say it again Karimi almost always loses to good wrestlers who are physically stronger than him, because his style is very based of physicality (not saying he is a pusher like Goleij). Actually I would not be surprised if he won a bronze at 97 with the right draw. He beat Sharifov no problem. 

  3. 5 minutes ago, Lurker said:

    The Olympic weight of 66/65 has virtually been a pick 'em.  Only three guys have won more than one gold since they went to 66 in '03, and all three won exactly two.  Every other year has had a different champ, and many many have reached the finals.  It's a tough tough weight,  where its basically who is the most hot that day.  Haji just hasn't had his day.  I for one hope that, if its not our guy, Tokyo becomes his day.


    This is another thing. Only Taghavi (2009 and 2011 gold) , Sahin (2007 and 2008 gold) and Ramonov (2014 and 2016 gold) have been able to win more than once at this weight. Sahin was the only one who could do it back to back. 

  4. 7 minutes ago, wrestfan said:

    Thanks. I knew this guy Hemmat Moslemi but never saw this documentary . that was very interesting and funny. and he still has those newspapers mentioning his win over Tedeev lol

    I also loved that little kid (apparently Moslemi's nephew) he became interested in wrestling after watching "Reza Yazdani" he wants to win medals like "Hassan Yazdani" but his role model is ... "Nader Hajaghania"! ??!!!! Seriously ?!

    this documentary was about last year with some footage from last year trials, that made me compare Yazdani 2018 with 2019. I think he was much better this year. his preparation for 2018 was terrible he only wrestled in Asia ! (twice, both Asian Champs and Asian Games)


    Lol he always finds a way to mention the Tedeev stuff, I've read a lot of interviews with him (they are always entertaining, unlike most Iranian wrestler interviews) and this is far from the only one where he recalls that win. Honestly I was wondering about him as a wrestler. Do you know how good he was? I'm sure the Tedeev win was a fluke over a out of shape opponent, like when Gedeuv came to Iran and lost to Hasantabar. But it doesn't seem he ever even competed outside of Iran. I'm guessing he was just a random national level wrestler.


    Agree about Yazdani's preperation for worlds last year. Not sure what they were thinking when they didn't have him wrestle outside of Asia after the Paris world championships. 

  5. Hassan's interviews are generally always similar. Very respectful and polite, won't say anything controversial. In contrast his coach (not the national team coaches you see with him at worlds, I mean the guy who taught him how to wrestle and trains him when he is in his hometown) is a lot more forward in his interviews. I remember after the recent trials he said Yazdani could have beaten his opponent by more but did not want to. 




    Here is a short documentary on him and the conditions he is training these wrestlers in. 


    He particularly loves to recall the time he beat Elbrus Tedeev in the Iranian league :)

  6. Lol  Dabir is talking like a random fan on the internet. I agree with Dabir that his weight was among the weakest Olympic weights but Hassan has beat some very strong wrestlers:

    - Ghasempour  - 3 times, never in danger of losing any of the matches. A lot of fans don't know Ghasempour, especially non-iranian fans, but trust me if Hassan gets injured he will show everyone how good he is. 

    - Karimi

    - Valiev

    - Kurugliev

    - Naifanov

    - Sharifov - Didn't looked too weak when he beat Snyder somewhat comfortably last week 

    - Yasar

    - World medals from 70kg to 86, junior world champion at 66. 

    Also how is he saying that he hopes Taylor doesn't make it to the Olympics? Lol very motivating for Yazdani that the Olympic champion who's the head of the federation says has such faith in him that he hopes one of his opponents is unable to compete. I think that comment was the main problem. 

  7. On 9/22/2019 at 5:44 AM, UsedToBe103 said:

    From what I've heard/read, some Muslims keep their beard but shave their mustache.  But I don't know if those particular wrestlers are Muslim.

    These guys in the pictures are all Sunni Muslims. The Ossetians are mostly Christian with some exceptions like Gatsalov.

  8. 6 minutes ago, Fishbane said:

    What's the rationale for Rashidov over Uguev?

    You think Aliyev should be on there but in the past two years he lost to two other guys at worlds who aren't on there Valdez and Otoguro.  


    Just because Rashidov has 3 medals. Uguev has 2 golds but if I remember right he won his first gold because they awarded him a caution and one with only a few seconds left.  I think those guys are all interchangeable, only guy that I think is a lock is Sadulaev at 1. 


    To be honest I'd only put Aliyev there above Lomtadze because he left a weight he had pretty much owned since 2014 worlds and won Euro games at 65 this year over a strong field. He gets good results at 65 in European tournaments generally it seems but yes you're right it hasn't happened for him at worlds so far. 

  9. 50 minutes ago, Fishbane said:

    You have Rashidov above him and he did not win the past two years. Last year he lost in the final at 61kg to YBR.  Two years ago he lost in the finals to Haji Aliev.  I think Rashidov did best yazdani at junior worlds but maybe that was a different yazdani.  Iran has too many of them.  If it was the yazdani them I think it is something to consider.  


    Was the same Yazdani but it was cadets, not juniors. They wrestled at 50kg I believe. 

  10. 1 hour ago, Eagle26 said:

    I really debated with where to put Yazdani and even considered him as #2 because I do think he is that good. However, everyone else I put above him has won it at least the last two years and he has not. Even though I think he would beat Taylor, he is 0-2 vs him while Dake and Cox have both beaten Taylor. He was also in the weakest of the Olympic weights. If Taylor is healthy he may not even be on the list.

    Agreed that Yazdani is not a lock at 2 by any means but by the same logic Cox is 0 - 2 against Sharipov and Yazdani teched Sharipov. 

  11. Sadulaev is number 1 for me but its hard for me to rank Sidakov, Yazdani, Uguev, Rashidov and Geno.

    Yazdani has world medals from 70kg to 86 and is a 3 X champ but what gives me doubt in putting him at 2 is this current 86 class is weak and he could not beat Taylor. Sidakov and Uguev are both 2 X champs,  Rashidov  "only" has 1 gold but probably has the hardest weight. Geno has 3 but only really has to plan for one guy each year. 

    No way is Cox above any of these guys considering we have seen him lose to multiple wrestlers and the weakness of 92. 

    I'd say:

    1 - Sadulaev

    2 - Yazdani? Only because of the range of weights he has been successful in. I feel that matters in p4p. 

    3  - Sidakov - only putting him above Rashidov because Rashidov has had two controversial wins now on his way to medals ( Khinch 2017, Aliyev 2019)

    4 - Rashidov

    5 - Uguev

    6 - Geno

    7 - Dake

    8 - Baev

    9 - Cox

    10 - Lomtadze

    That's just ranking the champs. I feel like some guys who didn't win this year deserve to be on here more than some of the champs. I would put Haji Aliyev and Jordan Burroughs over some of these guys in an overall list.




  12. 28 minutes ago, irani said:

    you obviously mean 65 Kg

    No i mean 86 lol. Who is better than him from 79 or below? In total would only put Karimi, Ghasempour and Yazdani above him. Hadi and HW is a different situation. I am not saying he is Saitiev or anything but by our weak team in lower weights standards I would say currently he is the best 79 and down. 

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