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  1. With all of this new evidence maybe a better way of looking at it is that a skilled and effective documentary could make Mother Teresa look like a saint and Stalin look like a monster.
  2. Lee and DeSanto could be huge draws. The next set of guys would be on par with the intrigue of the recent NLWC card. That would be Marinelli, Kemerer and Eirman. Being an active NCAA wrestler gives an automatic interest boost. After that—any current HWC members well that is another level down. They will need to maximize everything to make the $30 worth it for fans not considering this a charitable fundraiser for the club.
  3. Couldn't agree more. BM did and said some very questionable things during his 3-4 year stint in IA. He beat some very special and extraordinary competitors during that time. For example, they showed the end of that big 10 final against Schatter and IIRC Metcalf got the go ahead takedown very late and then decided to put his forearm in the back of Schlatter's skull. Like why? Awesome competitor in this awesome sport gave you all he had and you bettered him, but you need to do that? Plenty of other examples like the way he spoke about Lance Palmer in interviews. Forgot the unflattering term that Burroughs had for him in the docu but I would bet the mortgage it didn't come from a complimentary place. That makes episode 2 and 3 intriguing to me. Has BM learned and grown as a man since leaving that culture and how does he feel about "you have to be an a$$hole to be a good wrestler" that Tom Brands is famous for saying. Has he transformed himself like Ramos or is that all still in his beliefs? I really hope Flo asked some tough questions about that departure and philosophy. The cool thing about PSU and Cael is that they have proven that logic to be very untrue. It is OK to be a dominant wrestler and a good human simultaneously. See JB as well.
  4. What a great time to be a fan. $30 is certainly testing the limits of what these events are worth though. The UM/PSU meet was loaded with stars and only $9.95. Great to see these different streaming competitors put out a product. With 4-5 now active perhaps we will see some best practices from each as they learn how to commentate, stream, fill dead air, transition from match to match, etc. Odd name for this Hawkeye one though. Why would you call this an 'Open'?
  5. I enjoyed this docu as well. The Schlatter interview was awesome and both of their perspectives on the rivalry were cool. I hope that they get deep into the Caldwell match and fall out, his room battles with Schwab early in his freestyle career and most importantly any and all drama on him departing from the Hawkeye family and specifically Tom Brands. Episode 2 and 3 could be awesome, just hope Flo asked the tough questions.
  6. Do not listen to FRL so thank you. If that was the case it is understandable.
  7. Gabe Dean is a fine draw. His NCAA finishes were impressive. His small career in freestyle was not great and it was short lived. Certainly a great wrestler, but not going to draw viewership.
  8. Not to belabor my rant too much here but Flo and their response to out of the box ideas reminds me of pro golf when the sport was being reintroduced to the olympics. They sent surveys to key players about what they could do to drive interest and what format they should use. The players came back saying "how about 4 rounds of stroke play, 72 holes total" and the outcome was an event that drew perhaps a touch more interest than a normal PGA tour event that is a non-major. Flo gets an A on the great concept, structure and potential of this event and then they falling back on basic wrestling tournament limitations and norms to defend in the box policies for entries and rules. This could be the event of the year, or similar to golf and the olympics it could be another wrestling tournament bracket with perhaps a touch more interest than the normally scheduled ones. When CP dismisses someone like Downey being in the bracket (and trust me, no Downey fan here) it shows that either he has no situational awareness at all about promotion or it shows that Flo is unable to make the right decisions from the top down. Because right now, for a small point in time, Downey is a hell of a draw and why on earth would you not make that happen?!?! If that means changing a sanctioning body then do it.
  9. Also, just to preface that I am not anti-Flo conceptually, because the idea of an open weight class perhaps chosen to pull in competitors from two surrounding weight classes that are star studded is quite cool, especially to die hard wrestling fans. Great idea and the potential to have something unprecedented was there (Dake, DT, Bo, Dieringer, Cox, PD3, Zahid -- amazing marketability and wow factor), but the result thus far is a Bill Farrel 86kg type bracket where none of the interesting guys show up. For their sake the next 4 are the announcement worthy ones.
  10. What is the benefit to Flo, or anyone involved, in having this be USAW sanctioned? If the entertainment value goes up in any way, shape or form by being independent from that then for goodness sakes do that -- because these events are 100% about entertainment. Based on the first 4 names either Flo is holding onto the big names for a significant promotional announcement or they need a stronger mind involved in overcoming obstacles to enhance their events (example -- their rigid and lame excuse for not accommodating DTs no tech fall request when facing PD3).
  11. Well 3 of the 4 were in my “a little interesting “ grouping. Hoping the other 4 are of the big name variety or the bracket and event will equate to a US open bracket minus the top 2-3 seeds.
  12. The number of matches, pace of going from match to match and amount of replays were all ideal. Well done all around. PSU-NLWC-Cael do it all well currently.
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    Yeah, Gable about to do that to everyone US and abroad. Freaky.
  14. With all due respect to Gabe Dean I doubt he is who they had in mind. You have to think they want Taylor, Cox, Snyder, Downey (not due to talent mind you but interest) and Nickal. If all are absent a bracket with Dean, Macciavelo, MyMar, Sam Brooks and Drew Foster and the like would certainly be interesting but on the level of perhaps a US Open bracket. So -- The interesting thing to watch now is will that prize money bring out those big guns and can they all make 195 (Cox/Snyder)?
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    RBY 141

    Cruel. Was tweeted as a joke. Speculation ends.
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    RBY 141

    Per his Twitter. Nick Lee is shirting? Bartlett impressing?
  17. If this is true it is pretty baller! However, it is possible he is saying it is his "vision quest" to get some revenge on Spencer however, despite Spencer's reputation and stellar 2 NCAA tournaments , he is also moving away from a loaded, landmine filled 133 bracket that potentially includes Fix, Micic and RBY and his odds to win a title may actually increase just a bit at 125 considering some of Lee's inconsistencies. Now if Fix and Micic also went 125 well then.....lookout!
  18. I look forward to cancelling Flo I just have the subscription through some time in October so not much point doing so now. Their documentaries have gotten to feel like "rinse and repeat" and the coverage of Big Ten duals and other key duals seemed to fade away from must watch ones to the "all others". My only reluctance now is that I love to watch the Scuffle and Midlands and the UWW events of Fila Jrs, US Open and WTT but their current personnel behavioral has made a borderline decision for this upcoming renewal an easy one for me. And LBJ I realize, that is just me. They are not the devil, they just suck at a lot now.
  19. Chael is crazy talented. Imagine doing all this solo? I hope this is just the beginning!
  20. This suggests that it isn't a skill to get the boot in and punish with it. A skill Fix has that many others don't, because if they did they would use it. Had this been a spiral ride or a mat return while keeping the bottom man flat almost certainly a stalemate wouldn't come, but those are not as skilled a ride as what Fix did here and so what is the difference?. Very, very poor call.
  21. This is awesome. My son watches Submission UnderGround quite a bit and it is really well done.
  22. Was contemplating attending and in looking at the tickets it says that the arena is cleared to allow 50% capacity but then all seating in General Admission? Anyone know logistically how that will work? First come first serve but then everyone ensures they don't sit in consecutive seats?
  23. I remember not just the Midlands appearance but also a little senior freestyle success as well while in high school. Some of the hype went away when he lost to post Soph Dustin Schlatter at Fargo. That Fargo bracket had a ton of high level studs and if my memory was better I would list them off.
  24. To the bad — CP Schlatter, think he was ready to high AA out of high school then redshirted and tore his ACL. Showed flashes during the regular season at times but never shined at NCAAs. Destin McCauley, Alex Tsirtsis, Derek Garcia and Luke Kemerer. Andrew Alton was sooo good as well. To the good — Johnny Thompson, Pletcher Mack Reiter, McDonough and Bubba J.
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