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    Class got a reaction from ShakaAloha in PD3/ Taylor   
    Not much of a gimmick.  Flo had high school wrestlers do a 35 minute match so adding 2 minutes on a match for senior level athletes isn't outside the box.
    No need to stress on the PD3 side though as Flo has taken the fall as Jaraslov is alluding to the ironclad contracts between amateur wrestlers, that must be in the 4 if not 5 digits, being too onerous to amend with 45 day notice.  They get to protect one of their contracted athletes from looking hypocritical from his chest thumping insufferable social media personality with the small expense of appearing to be a small time company with the nimbleness and speed of US Steel.  That  is no big deal though as their customers are more or less assumed loyal.
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    Class got a reaction from nhs67 in PD3/ Taylor   
    Not much of a gimmick.  Flo had high school wrestlers do a 35 minute match so adding 2 minutes on a match for senior level athletes isn't outside the box.
    No need to stress on the PD3 side though as Flo has taken the fall as Jaraslov is alluding to the ironclad contracts between amateur wrestlers, that must be in the 4 if not 5 digits, being too onerous to amend with 45 day notice.  They get to protect one of their contracted athletes from looking hypocritical from his chest thumping insufferable social media personality with the small expense of appearing to be a small time company with the nimbleness and speed of US Steel.  That  is no big deal though as their customers are more or less assumed loyal.
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    Class got a reaction from Ogalthorpe Haywood in PD3/ Taylor   
    You don't present it, Taylor does.  Now all you have to do is wait to see if Downey accepts or not (as stated above it may be wise for him not to).
    Flo doesn't need to get involved other than see if Downey accepts.  I am sure the difficult logistics of changing the time on the clock for an extra minute can be worked through by the operations team at Flo.
    You did unlimited overtime for WNO so it isn't like there isn't precedence for altering formats slightly which is what this is.
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    Class got a reaction from hammerlockthree in PD3/ Taylor   
    Then why in the world would Flo reject it?  Consider the thread the audience (many of us are members I am sure, including myself) want to see it and increase the drama surrounding the match.  Re-open the consideration Flo -- For your fans!
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    Class got a reaction from PSUNatChamps in Mark Hall to PRTC   
    Mark Hall is a great individual.  His celebrations rubbed some the wrong way but he is a quality human being.  His wrestling was based on amazing technical detail and I am not surprised that as a clinician he was shining.
     
    hamerlockthree might be the dumbest person on the internet today.
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    Class reacted to drag it in Revisiting the racism at Team Foxcatcher   
    I respectfully suggest that this was not a helpful stand alone topic.  There was already an important thread on the board which has generated a lot of replies on the very important, timely, and necessary topic of the experience of black wrestlers -- which has been marked by a history of substantial overt and subtle discrimination, just like other sports and the rest of American life.
    The Dupont mess is so complicated and nuanced that this thread turned into an unhelpful, irrelevant diversion.
    As pointed out, Dupont's central and overriding problem was indisputably a terrible mental illness.  This manifested itself among other things with a bizarre aversion to all things, including humans, that had a black exterior. 
    Do we really need to try to figure out if this deeply ill man was also somewhere on, and if so, at exactly what spot and when he arrived there, the spectrum of racism?  
    Isn't it pretty clear that the entire Dupont affair was poorly handled by wrestling governing bodies?
    And is it really necessary to point out that he treated both (white) Schultz brothers more poorly than anyone else, including by intentionally shooting and killing one of them, such that a major movie and documentary were made on the subject?
    At this transcendent moment in our history, we need our public discourse, in order to help better our society, to have relevant focus while avoiding inflammatory sideshows.
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    Class got a reaction from AHamilton in Mark Hall to PRTC   
    Mark Hall is a great individual.  His celebrations rubbed some the wrong way but he is a quality human being.  His wrestling was based on amazing technical detail and I am not surprised that as a clinician he was shining.
     
    hamerlockthree might be the dumbest person on the internet today.
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    Class reacted to AnklePicker in Mark Hall to PRTC   
    Also Chase Pami recently left Penn to start a club in Vegas. Pami ran the youth club at the RTC. Yes Mark’s relationship with Slay probably played a big part but there are many opportunities at Penn in terms of coaching imo and there aren’t the log jam of stars that there are at PSU.  
    I’ve taken my team to Penn State’s camp twice and imo Hall was the best clinician there out of the athletes.  
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    Class reacted to jammen in Wrestlers unbeaten streaks   
    Unbeaten, not win, streaks as some had ties.  If the History of Collegiate Wrestling had a different stat than the school's web site I went with the former as being more reliable.  Note that some historic figures don't make the list simply for lack of matches (Yojo Uetake, Dan Hodge, etc).
    1) 159 Cael Sanderson (IA St)
    2) 103 Lee Kemp (WI)
    3) 98 Pat Smith (Okie St)
    4) 96 Dan Gable (IA St)
    5) 94 Zain Retherford (PSU)
    6) 90 John Smith (Okie St)
    7) 89 Jim Zalesky (IA)
    8,9) 88 Kerry McCoy (PSU), Gwiz (NC St)
    10, 11) 87 Chris Taylor (IA St), Ben Askren (MO)
    12,13,14) 84 Ed Ruth (PSU), Gray Simons (LH), Mike Land (IA St)
    15) 83 Stephen Neal (CSUB)
    16) 82 Alex Dieringer (Okie St)
    17) 77 Kyle Dake (Corn)
    18) 76 Cole Konrad (MN)
    19,20) 74 Troy Steiner (IA), Mike Sheets (Okie St)
    21) 72 Sammy the Bull Henson (Clemson)
    22,23) 69 Brent Metcalf (IA), Tom Brands (IA)
    24) 68 Bo Nickal (PSU)
    25,26) 67 Mark Ironside (IA), TJ Williams (IA)
     
     
     
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    Class got a reaction from AHamilton in Ufc 249   
    I am quite sure the projections in the millions were with mitigation efforts.
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    Class got a reaction from JHRoseWrestling in Ufc 249   
    Damn -- 2 full pages had me excited to click and read about the absolutely fantastic card and fights last night, then I had to read through this.
    It was a wonderful event that brought joy, distraction and fun to millions that needed it last night.  Kudos to UFC, Dana White and everyone else.  If there are people out there that don't see all the great benefits that this brough and can only focus on a positive test of Jacare and how that was handled, well thanks for the preview of all of the pain the A$$ stuff we have to read through the next 12-24 months.
    Yeah, COVID is serious, everyone please try to remember and treat it that way.  Bitching up a forum about Jacare when the event was FANtastic shows you really are looking for something.
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    Class got a reaction from Witherman in Ufc 249   
    Damn -- 2 full pages had me excited to click and read about the absolutely fantastic card and fights last night, then I had to read through this.
    It was a wonderful event that brought joy, distraction and fun to millions that needed it last night.  Kudos to UFC, Dana White and everyone else.  If there are people out there that don't see all the great benefits that this brough and can only focus on a positive test of Jacare and how that was handled, well thanks for the preview of all of the pain the A$$ stuff we have to read through the next 12-24 months.
    Yeah, COVID is serious, everyone please try to remember and treat it that way.  Bitching up a forum about Jacare when the event was FANtastic shows you really are looking for something.
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    Class got a reaction from GockeS in Ufc 249   
    Damn -- 2 full pages had me excited to click and read about the absolutely fantastic card and fights last night, then I had to read through this.
    It was a wonderful event that brought joy, distraction and fun to millions that needed it last night.  Kudos to UFC, Dana White and everyone else.  If there are people out there that don't see all the great benefits that this brough and can only focus on a positive test of Jacare and how that was handled, well thanks for the preview of all of the pain the A$$ stuff we have to read through the next 12-24 months.
    Yeah, COVID is serious, everyone please try to remember and treat it that way.  Bitching up a forum about Jacare when the event was FANtastic shows you really are looking for something.
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    Class got a reaction from Perry in Ufc 249   
    Damn -- 2 full pages had me excited to click and read about the absolutely fantastic card and fights last night, then I had to read through this.
    It was a wonderful event that brought joy, distraction and fun to millions that needed it last night.  Kudos to UFC, Dana White and everyone else.  If there are people out there that don't see all the great benefits that this brough and can only focus on a positive test of Jacare and how that was handled, well thanks for the preview of all of the pain the A$$ stuff we have to read through the next 12-24 months.
    Yeah, COVID is serious, everyone please try to remember and treat it that way.  Bitching up a forum about Jacare when the event was FANtastic shows you really are looking for something.
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    Class got a reaction from Ohio Elite in Ufc 249   
    Damn -- 2 full pages had me excited to click and read about the absolutely fantastic card and fights last night, then I had to read through this.
    It was a wonderful event that brought joy, distraction and fun to millions that needed it last night.  Kudos to UFC, Dana White and everyone else.  If there are people out there that don't see all the great benefits that this brough and can only focus on a positive test of Jacare and how that was handled, well thanks for the preview of all of the pain the A$$ stuff we have to read through the next 12-24 months.
    Yeah, COVID is serious, everyone please try to remember and treat it that way.  Bitching up a forum about Jacare when the event was FANtastic shows you really are looking for something.
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    Class got a reaction from AHamilton in Ufc 249   
    Damn -- 2 full pages had me excited to click and read about the absolutely fantastic card and fights last night, then I had to read through this.
    It was a wonderful event that brought joy, distraction and fun to millions that needed it last night.  Kudos to UFC, Dana White and everyone else.  If there are people out there that don't see all the great benefits that this brough and can only focus on a positive test of Jacare and how that was handled, well thanks for the preview of all of the pain the A$$ stuff we have to read through the next 12-24 months.
    Yeah, COVID is serious, everyone please try to remember and treat it that way.  Bitching up a forum about Jacare when the event was FANtastic shows you really are looking for something.
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    Class got a reaction from dtry222 in HWC and the women   
    Christian Pyles reporting a quote from Tom Brands to the effect of "The girls left voluntarily and we wish them luck and if they want to come back we will support that decision" which is bordering on as non-answer as the dude from HR was given.
    Can we all just agree that if they didn't pull funding from the girls currently or in the imminent future then one of them would have just said that?  Taking it a step further then Tom and Terry both did some serious BSing in their interviews immediately following the backlash, and while Tom decided not to double down with the quote today he is trying to take the high road in an ingenuine and very transparent way.
    And really Pyles, I mean really, you couldn't just ask him the obvious, elephant in the room question?!?!?!  Whatever role you claim to have in this situation whether it be a journalist, interested observer (or whatever it is semantically because I genuinely don't know how you position yourself) why would you put yourself in a position to share the same poor corporate speak they are delivering on HR right now.
     
    Because truly what Tom is saying is "hey I am not going to pay you anymore but if you want to stay here for free great.  If someone else is going to pay you and you go there you can always come on back here and represent us for free"
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    Class got a reaction from Housebuye in HWC and the women   
    Christian Pyles reporting a quote from Tom Brands to the effect of "The girls left voluntarily and we wish them luck and if they want to come back we will support that decision" which is bordering on as non-answer as the dude from HR was given.
    Can we all just agree that if they didn't pull funding from the girls currently or in the imminent future then one of them would have just said that?  Taking it a step further then Tom and Terry both did some serious BSing in their interviews immediately following the backlash, and while Tom decided not to double down with the quote today he is trying to take the high road in an ingenuine and very transparent way.
    And really Pyles, I mean really, you couldn't just ask him the obvious, elephant in the room question?!?!?!  Whatever role you claim to have in this situation whether it be a journalist, interested observer (or whatever it is semantically because I genuinely don't know how you position yourself) why would you put yourself in a position to share the same poor corporate speak they are delivering on HR right now.
     
    Because truly what Tom is saying is "hey I am not going to pay you anymore but if you want to stay here for free great.  If someone else is going to pay you and you go there you can always come on back here and represent us for free"
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    Class got a reaction from Force118 in HWC and the women   
    Christian Pyles reporting a quote from Tom Brands to the effect of "The girls left voluntarily and we wish them luck and if they want to come back we will support that decision" which is bordering on as non-answer as the dude from HR was given.
    Can we all just agree that if they didn't pull funding from the girls currently or in the imminent future then one of them would have just said that?  Taking it a step further then Tom and Terry both did some serious BSing in their interviews immediately following the backlash, and while Tom decided not to double down with the quote today he is trying to take the high road in an ingenuine and very transparent way.
    And really Pyles, I mean really, you couldn't just ask him the obvious, elephant in the room question?!?!?!  Whatever role you claim to have in this situation whether it be a journalist, interested observer (or whatever it is semantically because I genuinely don't know how you position yourself) why would you put yourself in a position to share the same poor corporate speak they are delivering on HR right now.
     
    Because truly what Tom is saying is "hey I am not going to pay you anymore but if you want to stay here for free great.  If someone else is going to pay you and you go there you can always come on back here and represent us for free"
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    Class got a reaction from Housebuye in HWC and the women   
    BELDEEN on HR making some clear answers that are very contradictory to the Brands interviews and does nothing to actually address the policy towards the women and funding policy with them.  He seems to be in leadership or influence with the HWC.  A bit disappointing.
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    Class got a reaction from fadzaev2 in Reece Humphrey USA Wrestling Freestyle Coach of the Year   
    Seems like a bright, dynamic individual from the outside looking in.  Congrats to him.
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    Class reacted to alliseeisgold in '11 Burroughs v '13 Dake - analysis without the drama   
    you can't blame your losing on the process and then go out and lose when you have equal footing -  and the way he lost was worse. Dake was not agressive - another example of tactical defensive low scoring "gamer" dake style that wins against everyone not named burroughs - not working against burroughs.  And then Dake complained again after the match. 
    Winners go out and win not continue to whine, complain, lose, and whine after they lose.
    JB has had to wrestle top top competition on short rest at the world level for a long time -JB is not using the excuse.  ...but kyle is a world champion too.....no comparison in those weight classes.
    JB should of asked Dake why he went up to 86 to wrestle cox instead of jb that one year - drop mic.
    Taylor and DAKE moved weight classes due o jb - 2 world champions. and JB has a large sample size of beating both - put some respect on his name. 
     
     
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    Class got a reaction from fadzaev2 in Perfectly timed regular redshirt?   
    Total team “punts” by Michigan and Cornell will end up allowing them to gain on Iowa and PSU.  Lots of Olympic redshirts in there but both will get the full 4 years for most of their stars due to their down year.  Michigan certainly wishing they had held back Paris as well.
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    Class got a reaction from Lunaticfringe in Perfectly timed regular redshirt?   
    Total team “punts” by Michigan and Cornell will end up allowing them to gain on Iowa and PSU.  Lots of Olympic redshirts in there but both will get the full 4 years for most of their stars due to their down year.  Michigan certainly wishing they had held back Paris as well.
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    Class got a reaction from MSU158 in Spencer Lee and Anthony Robles   
    MSU well said on his senior year and those echo my thoughts as well.  He really reached a new level and his progression from Jr. to Sr. was really remarkable.
    Regarding his freestyle aspirations the rule set at the time was not conducive to his disability.  if you recall this was the 3 period best of 2 wins era and the tie-breaker was starting with your opponents leg, an obvious (and perhaps totally impossible) disadvantage for Robles.
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