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Crotalus last won the day on March 5 2019

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  1. He went to Cal State Fresno. I think it took him a couple of years to get academically qualified and then couldn't stay eligible so only wrestled one year D1. 2000 was the only year I attended NCAAs. It was in St. Louis and he was a Missouri legend (4x state champ and teched or pinned everyone his last 3 years and a bunch of cadet/junior freestyle titles) so I paid attention to all his matches. Rumor was he barely weighed 120 lbs, if that. I've stood next to him and he is maybe 5 ft. Very undersized but had a crazy good arm spin. His semifinal match is on youtube and is worth a watch despite the awful quality. The size difference is not something you see often at 125 lbs. Unfortunately his 3rd place match against Jody Strittmatter (Iowa) is not, but he lost 11-2. If I remember correctly, Strittmatter spent most of the match on top turning TJ. He could do nothing from bottom. He wrestled freestyle for years after, but not sure of any results.
  2. TJ Hill. Severely undersized but managed to get 4th in the one year he wrestled D1. (He could take down anyone in the country, but his struggles on bottom did cost him in his two losses at the NCAA tournament.)
  3. Almost looked like a folkstyle match with the power halfs and cradle.
  4. Why do you say that? Americans are much better standing than on top or defending on bottom. And we are often (though not always) in better condition than our opponents, so giving the opponent less time to potentially rest on top or bottom would seem beneficial.
  5. There's no point in trying to get away on bottom. You're not rewarded and you expose yourself to a potential turn. With the current rules the top man doesn't get a whole lot of time to work, so if you just keep solid position and fight off one attempt at a turn the ref will put you back on your feet. So a lot of risk and zero reward (unless you get a reversal which is more likely to happen from fighting a turn anyways). Even if there was an escape point the risk is way higher than the reward when you will be back on your feet in <15 seconds anyways.
  6. Thanks. That's a great list. It all depends on what the criteria is. Do you factor in winning percentage, average placement, longevity, etc.? Regardless, John Smith can make a claim to be among those. I agree that Karelin doesn't count, he's obviously #1 in GR. If you throw in Yarigan because he cut is competitive career short to coach, you could use that same rational for John Smith. He could have likely added some more hardware had he decided to compete longer. At worst he'd be 11 and it would not be hard to argue him up a few places for going 6 for 6.
  7. I would like to see your list of 10 guys that you would put above 6 straight world/Olympic gold medals.
  8. Since we're talking about fat wrestlers, let's pick on the big boys. I wonder what the biggest gap between the weight they certified at and their MWC? It looks like there are at least some heavies that qualified for 165, but you can't tell what their actual weight is.
  9. He didn't follow the bar back down. It's a shame, would have been a nice lift.
  10. It's the deepest weight in the world and we've not performed well on the world stage in quite along time, let alone the Olympics when the weight will be even deeper. I know our guys can beat the best in the world on the right day, but those days don't seem to be during Worlds/Olympics, let alone making a run through multiple top competitors in a row. I think JO is currently our best but don't think he can make a sustained run without a mental lapse that costs him a match and I think Yianni is the future because he has such a great feel for international wrestling, but I don't think he's there yet. And Zain is rock solid, but don't think he has the feel for freestyle, though he has improved in the regard. But I also don't expect this weight to go one and done. Again, I'd love to be wrong but if I were a betting man, I would not lay my money down on the US placing at 65. Regardless, I don't see this weight as falling under the " could make the finals or be out after the first round" category I was initially referring to.
  11. Well, literally speaking, sure. But we have medal favorites at 3 weights (regardless of who makes the team at 74 and 97) that would be shocking to be one and done. I don't currently see any of our 65 kg placing without a hell of a lucky draw, let alone making the finals (I would love to be wrong about that). And 125 kg is bronze at best, no matter what. I think 57 kg is the most up in the air because I think we have gold medal potential, but there is a lot of parity in the weight, both in the US and across the world. So neither one and done or making the finals would shock me.
  12. To be fair, their "longest match ever" was really entertaining despite the lack of scoring. Because they were actually trying to score. But their matches since then have been some of, if not the most painfully boring matches I've ever seen. Agreed. We are very deep at 57. Of course, so is the rest of the world. Regardless of who makes the team (whenever we have one again) could make the finals or be out after the first round, depending on the draw.
  13. Any of these guys could make the team. I think Lee and Fix are our best options here. I think Lee is the most talented, but he is also the smallest, and there is a theory out there that he gasses late in matches. Wrestling bigger guys will wear you out faster. That said, we didn't see any signs of gassing the last time he wrestled freestyle. I would love to see any of these possible match ups except Fix/Suriano. I hope we never see those two wrestle each other ever again.
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