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  1. Okay so you disagree with Zlatan’s framework. Nothing wrong with that.
  2. If I recall correctly, before JB won his first world gold and was an international unknown, a Russian coach said he thought JB would win a medal because he “feels wrestling.” I would say that’s some high praise.
  3. Right. It’s an aesthetic judgment. But I’d say that successful creativity would also be part of it too — that is, having impeccable technique, but knowing when to deviate from that technique in order to score.
  4. I literally posted twice in this thread — including once in reply to you — that when Ibrahimovic described Messi as a “natural,” he likely meant that Messi is more than a trained product. I think it’s indisputable that Messi is highly trained.
  5. Just cut-and-pasting from a previous post to clarify what I think Ibrahimovic meant by a natural: Ronaldo is absurdly athletic, yet Ibrahimovic said he was a trained product, not a natural. So what I think Ibrahimovic meant was that Ronaldo and Messi are equally masters of technique, but that Messi gets to a higher level by his ability to creatively improvise, making his incredible technical skill fade into the background. And having mastery of soccer at that level simply cannot be taught. Ergo, Messi is more than a trained product. Perhaps “natural” isn’t the best term, but that’s the term Ibrahimovic used.
  6. Ronaldo is absurdly athletic, yet Ibrahimovic said he was a trained product, not a natural. So what I think Ibrahimovic meant was that Ronaldo and Messi are equally masters of technique, but that Messi gets to a higher level by his ability to creatively improvise, making his incredible technical skill fade into the background. And having mastery of soccer at that level simply cannot be taught. Ergo, Messi is more than a trained product. Perhaps “natural” isn’t the best term, but that’s the term Ibrahimovic used.
  7. Famous soccer Zlatan Ibrahimovic was once asked whether he thought Lionel Messi or Cristiano Ronaldo was better. (For those of you who don’t know, since 2007, Messi and Ronaldo have consistently been named among the top three players in the world, and have together taken the top spot 12 out of 14 years.) Ibrahimovic said that Messi was better because he is a natural, whereas Ronaldo is a trained product. Do you buy into that distinction? If so, who are some of the naturals at wrestling out there?
  8. So Cael was obviously coached by the legend, Bobby Douglas. As far as I can tell, Douglas competed at West Liberty State College — an NAIA team — for one year in its inaugural season, and then competed for Oklahoma State for three years. (Douglas’s coach at Oklahoma State was Myron Roderick.) So in a way, Cael benefitted from the Oklahoma State system. Of course, both Douglas and Cael are serious students of the sport whose expertise cannot be attributed to any single coach. It’ll be interesting to see which of Cael’s wrestlers become influential coaches.
  9. Sufficient explanation is that he is having fun and building his brand.
  10. Greco hasn’t developed a women’s division at all. It should be dropped from the Olympics for that reason alone.
  11. Wrestling isn't very popular in Canada. Pretty simple.
  12. If they made a donation, it was only after their kid was on the team.
  13. Love it. What other elite NCAA wrestlers might be able to represent another country (if they choose to do so)?
  14. At least 99% of the world would find Greco to be boring. Also, I’m an American and I think baseball is horrible to watch, as well as plenty of other sports. With regard to freestyle, most people I know who have watched a few minutes of it think it’s boring. I obviously disagree, but I don’t blame them.
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