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    Katie got a reaction from whaletail in Myles Amine- please defect to the USA!   
    Considering we have Taylor, Ringer, Nickal, etc., 86kg was a massacre for us.
    We got teched in the R16. The dude who teched us lost to San Marino the next round. San Marino and Switzerland are checking in at the Olympic Village while they await their medal matches. We failed to qualify the weight for the Olympics.
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    Katie got a reaction from spladle08 in 6 Reasons 86kg Wasn't as Weak as You Think   
    Good points.
    As far as the bracket goes, it’s almost as if the 86kg bracket was drawn in a way that would give the Kazakhstani the best chance to qualify the spot for Tokyo.
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    Katie reacted to maligned in 6 Reasons 86kg Wasn't as Weak as You Think   
    People have suggested in other threads that 86kg is weak. I have a hard time wrapping my head around it, honestly; but my conclusion is that it's not nearly as weak as people think. Here's why: 
    1. Though bigger than average, 86kg is a very "normal" size to have good athletes to choose from in many different nations--as evidenced by the fact that it tied with 65kg for having the most entrants of any weight.
    2. There were 9 ex-medalists at 86kg--2 more than the much-revered 65kg crop and not including 2019 junior world champ Punia, Naifonov of Russia, Gostiyev of Azerbaijan, Torreblanca of Cuba, the US rep Downey, and long-time giant killer Ceballos of Venezuela. That's 15 deep AT LEAST having credentials that would mark them as genuine medal possibilities at any weight.
    3. We're too caught up in the nation on the uniform. We think it's "weak" because Spain or Germany or Slovakia have a chance. Those are real guys with real credentials against top guys from around the world. They are not the typical western European reps.
    4. We're underselling Myles Amine. How many times does a top 2 or 3 guy nationally from our NCAA system have to step in and be an immediate medal contender before we accept that the right guys with the right background can have real success with very little lag time? His semi's appearance is being cited as a sign 86 was weak--except that he crushed 2 medalists and beat medal favorite Torreblanca to get there.
    5. MOST IMPORTANTLY: There were a LOT of mild upsets that stacked on top of each other that left us with a strange quarterfinals and semifinals. Friev upsets the clear top-bracket favorite Erdin. Reichmuth upsets Friev in the match of his life--and suddenly the door is open for Punia to step into the finals not having faced a top opponent. Dudarov takes out Makoev and Downey while Amine upsets 3 guys in a row and we get a weird San Marino-Germany quarterfinal. Aminishvili and Gostiyev fell early. All the name guys and name nations fell early except for Russia and Iran, basically. This weird run of results, more than anything, gave us the false impression that it was a no-depth, weak weight.
    6. A lopsided draw accentuated the impact of the upsets. There were at least 7 legit medal possibilities that were gone by the round of 16 in Yazdani's quarter alone because they were all bunched together. Arguably that same number were gone by the round of 16 from Amine's quarter too. Meanwhile, Reichmuth faced two non-contenders before finding himself with an upset possibility in the quarterfinals.
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    Katie reacted to Axe_Spartan in Rank the World Champs p4p   
    1 - Sadulaev - No doubt about that, the most dominant wrestler today, just got his fifth World/Olympic gold (the same number as Burroughs, but much younger than the american)
    2 - Sidakov - Amazing run, had to beat Burroughs and Chamizo again to win the Worlds for the second time. He is the first wrestler to beat Burroughs twice. Scored 14 total takedowns on his run, that's an impressive number.
    3 - Petriashvili - Again he beat Akgul in the finals, who was having a very good year in 2019. It's his 3rd straight world title.
    4 - Yazdani - The most dominant wrestler in the tournament, 4 matches, 2 TF and 2 falls, one of them against the russian Naifonov, who is a pretty good wrestler. It's his second world title. Aside of that, 1 olympic title and 2 more world medals (silver and bronze).
    5 - Uguev - He had to beat Amiraslanov (2019 European Games champion), Erdenebat (2018 Asian Games champion, 2 world medals), Atri (2019 Asian champion), Kumar Ravi (won bronze, beat Takahashi) and the number 2 Atli (2019 European champion and world bronze last year) (TF on this last one) to win his second straight world title.
    6 - Rashidov - Don't get me wrong, he was at the toughest weight at the whole tournament and had to pass through the likes of Aliyev, Musukaev and Otoguro just to reach the final match, but for me there was too much controversy on his matches against the azerbaijani and Musukaev that I ended up ranking him this low. Rashidov got his first world gold after 2 straight world silver medals.
    7 - Cox - Let me begin explaining why I ranked this next 4 wrestlers this low. I can't put world champions on non-olympic weight classes above the champions of olympic weight classes, especially on a pre-olympic year. Cox is the better of the four in my opinion, he is very dominant, no one scored on him in the whole tournament and had a very stiff test on Karimi in the finals on his way to the second straight world title.
    8 - Baev - He had to face great competition on his run, Iakobshvili (2017 World champion and bronze last year), Navruzov (2016 Olympic bronze medalist, and 2015 world silver) and Gadzhiev (bronze this year and silver world medal in 2017). Baev got two 4-point TDs on his final match, that's something you don't see very often in a final world match.
    9 - Dake - One of the weakest weights, Dake did not repeat as unscored upon as last year, the tough russian Gadzhimagomedov was not in the field, but he still had to face the 2016 olympic bronze medalist and now 2x world silver Hasanov in the finals. We will have to agree that he did just the enough to win.
    10 - Lomtadze - Finally the georgian got his world title, but he had the weakest opponents of all the world champions in my opinion and it's his first world title.
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    Katie got a reaction from GranbyTroll in Next year USA 74kg Olympic Trials   
    I believe Dake gets a bye to the semis. 
    That would mean you have iMar, Nolf, Lewis, Carr (and others) fighting for a chance to wrestle a fresh Dake.
    then the winner faces JB, like he’s Mike Tyson in Mike Tyson’s Punchout.
    (edited to correct mistaken info)
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    Katie got a reaction from GranbyTroll in Next year USA 74kg Olympic Trials   
    I thought they were giving medalists from non-Olympic weights byes to the semis. But I could be wrong. 
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    Katie got a reaction from custom fitch in Next year USA 74kg Olympic Trials   
    I believe Dake gets a bye to the semis. 
    That would mean you have iMar, Nolf, Lewis, Carr (and others) fighting for a chance to wrestle a fresh Dake.
    then the winner faces JB, like he’s Mike Tyson in Mike Tyson’s Punchout.
    (edited to correct mistaken info)
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    Katie got a reaction from sisi in 74 kg discussion   
    JB is at a weight that’s in the middle of the normal weight distribution.
    He competed in an era with fewer weight classes (except 2017 and 2018).
    He competed after the Soviet Union disbanded and after Russians started competing for other countries. 
    He didn’t compete in 2010 due to injury and he injured his knee during 2014 worlds.
    All things considered, he has to be our #2 p4p wrestler ever. Hard to top six straight, but I think it’s fair to be more impressed with JB.
    (disclaimer: I’m a huge JB fan.)
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    Katie got a reaction from Graverobber in Myles Amine- please defect to the USA!   
    It's a simplistic world where: You are fine with your government have deep military ties to Pakistan -- a country that doesn't recognize Israel. You are fine with putting gas in your car from Saudi Arabia -- another country that doesn't recognize Israel. You are fine with your country having deep economic ties to Qatar -- another country that doesn't recognize Israel. And you are fine with your country launching a war to protect Kuwait -- another country that doesn't recognize Israel.
    But you super outraged by Abounader wrestling for, and then quitting, Team Lebanon. It's really amazingly moronic.
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    Katie got a reaction from KSchlosser in Myles Amine- please defect to the USA!   
    Personally, I agree that taking politics to sports is dumb.
    But at the same time, for the sake or clear thinking, you have to separate national policies on the one hand, and internet people hypocritically trying to claim some sort of imaginary moral high ground on the other. Two different types of stupid.
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    Katie reacted to wrestfan in Team Race is Crazy   
    no if you handpick the draw for almost the entire team
    let's say I'm Kazakhstan and I want to pick the draw myself. we have 4 top seeds in each weight. let me go weight by weight
    57) Sanayev was 4th seed. his place was fixed. OK I can place some random guys in this quarter, that leaves only Atli (and Micic) in top half. impossible to send Atli as the top seed to the bottom half.
    61) out of 4 seeds, Okhlopkov and Aware are weaker. I pick Aware and send almost everybody else to the top half. seed 2 and 3 (Lomtadze and Aware) had to be in the bottom half, beside them the only notable name is Graff. I probably just missed him.
    65) we have Bajrang, Tomor-Ochir, Turk with a long name and Otoguro as seeded. Tomor-Ochir is the best pick. I send everybody else to the bottom half. that left only Bajrang and Tomor-Ochir for Niyazbekov. he beat the Mongolian and the refs took care of Bajrang for him.
    70) as 2nd seed I knew it will be Emami (3rd seed) in the semifinal. then I can send everybody to the top half. Kazakh only had to beat Australia and Great Britain to reach the semifinal where the refs took care of Emami for him.
    74) hmmm, top 4 seeds look very strong. but Chamizo is much better than Kentchadze, it's hard to pick between Burroughs and Sidakov. in this case it's better to put my wrestler in the same quarter as Chamizo. he will go the final and brings Kaisanov back for the repechage. at very least he can qualify for the Olympics. to make sure the next best guy in his quarter draw is South Korea !!
    79) Iran and USA are seeded in top half. I can send Russia. GEO and UZB to the top. there is only Hassanov left for the bottom half, I can put our guy with him. after all it won't be better than a bronze.
    86) Deepak of India is the weakest seeded wrestler that's where my wrestler goes. we can send everybody else to the bottom half.
    92) seeds for the bottom half look better. in top half we have Cox and Georgia. Cox is a sure thing to go to to the final. I put my wrestler next to him, that will secure at least a 5th place finish.
    97) out of 4 seeds the Mongolian is much weaker than the rest. so we know where we should be. we send everybody to the top half. no problem with Sadulaev we can try for the bronze or at least a quota.
    125) OK our guy sucks after all. let's show the world the draw was "fair" pair him with Russia.
    and it was my wild imagination .... lol
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    Katie got a reaction from CaliWrestler in 74 kg discussion   
    Two aspects of JB's draws over the years are interesting to me. After nine world/Olympic tournaments,
    JB has been the champ or on the same side of the bracket as the champ eight times. The only exception was the 2016 Olympics when he lost to Geduev, who then lost to Yazdani by a score of 6-6. JB has been on the same side of the bracket as Russia eight times. In 2017, he met the Russian (Tsabolov) in the finals. (Edited after JH's correction.)
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    Katie reacted to Jaroslav Hasek in 74 kg discussion   
    Burroughs met Tsabalov in the finals in 2017, the first and only time he's been opposite Russia at the worlds or olympics. 
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    Katie got a reaction from sidakova4991 in 74 kg discussion   
    Sidakov beat Burroughs and Chamizo, back to back, both last year and this year. I'd say that makes him one of the best wrestlers on the planet.
    Plus, he is not a dirty wrestler, and he seems respectful.
    Nobody is criticizing him, and I can't imagine that anybody will.
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    Katie got a reaction from DanGerMan in Next year USA 74kg Olympic Trials   
    I thought they were giving medalists from non-Olympic weights byes to the semis. But I could be wrong. 
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    Katie got a reaction from Coach_J in Myles Amine- please defect to the USA!   
    It's a simplistic world where: You are fine with your government have deep military ties to Pakistan -- a country that doesn't recognize Israel. You are fine with putting gas in your car from Saudi Arabia -- another country that doesn't recognize Israel. You are fine with your country having deep economic ties to Qatar -- another country that doesn't recognize Israel. And you are fine with your country launching a war to protect Kuwait -- another country that doesn't recognize Israel.
    But you super outraged by Abounader wrestling for, and then quitting, Team Lebanon. It's really amazingly moronic.
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    Katie got a reaction from DanGerMan in Next year USA 74kg Olympic Trials   
    I believe Dake gets a bye to the semis. 
    That would mean you have iMar, Nolf, Lewis, Carr (and others) fighting for a chance to wrestle a fresh Dake.
    then the winner faces JB, like he’s Mike Tyson in Mike Tyson’s Punchout.
    (edited to correct mistaken info)
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    Katie reacted to AZ_wrestling in Next year USA 74kg Olympic Trials   
    Yeah he gets a bye. But the finals will be on a separate day, so whoever wins the semis will at least have a day to recover. 
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    Katie reacted to Jaroslav Hasek in How did Kazakhstan get 2nd place?   
    not all wrestlers who reach the quarters are good no matter what. several wrestlers who are not very good made the quarters this year. at 57 Sanayev beat Tigeros of Columbia and at 70 Kaiponov beat Cojocaru of Great Britain. also lol at Kazis. 
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    Katie reacted to The Genius in How did Kazakhstan get 2nd place?   
    By some remarkable coincidence, the Kazakhs managed to avoid virtually all the strong non-seeded guys until the SF/F. 
    At 57kg Amiraslanov, Atri, Fix, Yatsenko, Bekhbayar, Armenian Euro Champ and Kumar all unseeded and all on the other bracket to Sanayev, giving him an easy path to the semis.
    At 65kg unseeded Haji Aliyev, Rashidov, Amir Yazdani, Valdes - same story, giving Niyazbekov clear road to the SF. Then lucky calls went his way (to say the last), giving him a final.
    At 70kg unseeded Green, Gadzhiev, Navruzov and Baev all on the other bracket to Kaipanov! 
    I could go on but I think you get the idea...
     
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    Katie got a reaction from GranbyTroll in Team Race is Crazy   
    In freestyle at least, Kazakhstan benefited from some fortunate draws and from some miraculous officiating.
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    Katie got a reaction from Coach_J in How did Kazakhstan get 2nd place?   
    KAZ managed to qualify every weight but 86kg and 125kg.
    And all they had to do to qualify 86kg was beat the Colombian. But their guy couldn’t do that.
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    Katie got a reaction from OBXWrestler in Team Race is Crazy   
    In freestyle at least, Kazakhstan benefited from some fortunate draws and from some miraculous officiating.
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    Katie got a reaction from The Genius in Freestyle Day 3 Thread   
    I don't know much about Downey.
    But one of his old coaches said "If you're following Pat on Twitter, you shouldn't."
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    Katie got a reaction from nhs67 in Myles Amine- please defect to the USA!   
    Tomorrow I expect everybody to come out in full force for San Marino. Don't be a hater.
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