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    Katie got a reaction from whaletail in One-Man Teams Manned by Americans   
    Frankly, I wouldn’t mind seeing more US wrestlers take their talents to Canada, Australia, the UK, or wherever else. It would just make for a better show, as far as I’m concerned.
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    Katie got a reaction from olddirty in One-Man Teams Manned by Americans   
    Frankly, I wouldn’t mind seeing more US wrestlers take their talents to Canada, Australia, the UK, or wherever else. It would just make for a better show, as far as I’m concerned.
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    Katie reacted to fightingsioux in Some Impressions From a Quick Visit To These Forums:   
    1. I was told beforehand by a former NCAA champion that I would not like it. He had tried, very low key, and given up. I'm 71, been involved in wrestling for 65 years as a wrestler, parent and coach. Thought I'd give it a try.   2. Way too much testosterone-fueled, bully boy bragging, threatening, insulting. Nastiness is the best descriptor. This is endemic on all internet forums, of course, perhaps that wrestling is the topic here only makes it worse.   3. A shortage of reasoned, logical, fact-based discussion/argument: arguments are good, they're just an exchange of diverging views, they educate. They don't have to end in punching someone in the face. Literally or in a post. See #2 above.   4. The hardest thing for humans to do is admit they are wrong. Many people have never said or heard these words said to them: "I believed this, but after listening to your argument and thinking about it, I see that I was wrong." Again, see #2 above.   5. Pet Peeve: Googling does not make you an instant expert on a subject.   6. An amazingly small number of posters, relatively speaking. I wonder how many potentially interesting, wrestling-knowledgeable, well-spoken and perceptive posters either quit entirely or just lurk because of the overly aggressive, jump-down-your-throat tone of the boards. It is the forum's loss.   7. I realize that I read and posted for a very short time. There seems to me some very old grudges, even hatreds, that clog-up and eventually sidetrack almost every thread of any length. I'm a 10-year member of a stock board with an expert, respected and respectful moderator who stops that kind of crap immediately! Stay on point, be rational, no ad hominem attacks. It's remarkable how quickly the loud-mouth bullies leave the room under those rules.   8. I was astounded how many truly elite-level (back in the day) wrestlers post here. In my brief visit, I counted 12,482 high school state champs and 3,723 NCAA AA's. Mind-boggling!   9. I don't mean to paint everyone with the same brush. I encountered some very informed, sophisticated posters, able to give and take with affable courtesy. NJDan and irani come to mind, I'm sure there are many others.   10. In closing, it's not a great experience for a newcomer and not something I'll recommend. That's really too bad, because when all is said and done we all love the sport of wrestling and a fair, thoughtful, civilized meeting place for the exchange of information and opinions (even strong and passionate ones) would be great.
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    Katie reacted to Jaroslav Hasek in Some Impressions From a Quick Visit To These Forums:   
    message boards are inherently difficult places to foster quality discussions. the most inflammatory posts get the most engagement and visibility. I'd give twitter a shot, lots of good wrestling chatter on that platform. 
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    Katie got a reaction from spladle08 in Best anticipated matches in Nursultan   
    JB beat Chamizo 6-5 @ 2018 BTS (in slippery conditions) Chamizo beat JB 10-10 @ 2018 Yasar Dogu. JB beat Chamizo 4-4 @ 2018 worlds. EDIT: JB beat Chamizo 9-2 @ 2019 Dan Kolov (Edit thanks to JH)
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    Katie reacted to Fishbane in California's bid to overtake PSU   
    No the NCAA did not, but that is irrelevant.  The question I replied to was asking about a player the NCAA was making millions off and didn’t specify anything about likeness.  The NCAA makes billions off the television rights to march madness and use players images in advertising it.  How much do you think a company wanting to use the image of the best player in college basketball in a TV advertisement would have to pay on the open market?
    Zion’s popularity translated into millions in free advertising for Duke and the ncaa’s march madness.  Players like him put fans in the arenas, influence shoe buying decisions, and when a team goes on a deep post season run that’s increased revenue and advertising for the school.   With advanced statistics a players contribution to the success of the season can be estimated and a value put on it.  In a sport like basketball a star player can make a big contribution.  Pro athletes use such metrics to negotiate their worth meanwhile a Heisman wining football player or Naismith winning basketball player who ostensibly the most valuable college player in their sport is compensated the same as any other scholarship athlete on the team and forbidden from making the market rate for their image or sports talent.  
    The Ed O’Bannon case and others kind of put the kibosh on the NCAA and institutions outright selling a players image on t-shirts, to video game developers, and jerseys bearing their name.  
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    Katie reacted to scribe in Some Impressions From a Quick Visit To These Forums:   
    Welcome to the internet gents!
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    Katie got a reaction from spladle08 in 2019 Worlds: Make your predictions   
    Who do you think will win gold? How do you think our rep will do?
    Here's how I see it:
    57kg - Sanayev (Fix DNP) 61kg - Bonne (Graff DNP) 65kg - Otoguru (Zain DNP) 70kg - Batirov (Green DNP) 74kg - Burroughs 79kg - Dake 86kg - Yazdani (PD3 DNP) 92kg - Cox  97kg - Sadulaev (Snyder silver) 125kg- Petriashvili (Gwiz bronze)
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    Katie reacted to Fishbane in California's bid to overtake PSU   
    Most college wrestlers that receive a full scholarship are getting a tremendous deal.  They will likely not get paid more than the yearly value of the full scholarship for wrestling at any other points in their lives.  That said probably any CA high school state champion wrestler or NCAA All american would be able to make decent side money with private lessons and command more at summer camps. Wrestlers in general are not the ones being exploited by the NCAA.
    When UCLA plays a game in the 90,000 seat Rose Bowl people pay to see the game and probably more than $10 on average.  As for an individual off whom an NCAA institution has made millions Zion Williamson is an easy example.
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    Katie got a reaction from TexRef in California's bid to overtake PSU   
    Gotcha. I misinterpreted your post.
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    Katie reacted to TexRef in California's bid to overtake PSU   
    Katie-I just don't think the NCAA will be forced to allow the payments. There have been proposals in the past for NCAA Athletes to make some income without putting their eligibility at risk. I think now would be a good time for a good proposal to be put in front of the NCAA. I think that we can all agree that we have seen the NCAA act like they ARE the highest power, and I just don't think they will be able to swallow the pill of California changing the rules. 
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    Katie reacted to jon in Track Wrestling Charges   
    Cool:
    "With the formation of this partnership, Trackwrestling will contribute $5 to USA Wrestling each time the promo code USAW is used at checkout on trackwrestling.com for the purchase of a 2019 World Championships video subscription now until September 30, 2019. USA Wrestling will use the funds raised through this promotion for further development of their training programs and initiatives. The promotion also extends a discount to the consumer when a subscription is purchased."
    Questionable:
    "'This is another example of a great partnership that makes the wrestling community stronger,' said Rich Bender, Executive Director of USA Wrestling. 'We are grateful for the impact that Trackwrestling has made in elevating our sport, not only within our nation, but also worldwide.'"
    https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/trackwrestling-partners-with-usa-wrestling-for-upcoming-united-world-wrestling-senior-world-championships-promotion-300916272.html
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    Katie got a reaction from cjc007 in California's bid to overtake PSU   
    Give into what? You think its great that a bunch of random people made millions off Zion Williamson's likeness, but he couldn't make anything off his own likeness?
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    Katie reacted to gimpeltf in California's bid to overtake PSU   
    I don't see this as  meaning the schools would pay the kids. The issue is that the NCAA doesn't allow the kids to use their likenesses for profit even on their own.
     
    What would happen would be that the bigger schools would be able to indirectly sponsor (for lack of a better word here) the sales of these likenesses and it would create a recruiting inequity.
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    Katie got a reaction from Yellow_Medal in Track Wrestling Charges   
    It sounds like you disagree with the guy who said the deal US fans are getting from UWW is a “by-product of living in a free enterprise society.”
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    Katie got a reaction from Yellow_Medal in Track Wrestling Charges   
    How is the deal US fans are getting from UWW “a by-product of living in a free enterprise society”?
    I’m definitely not following that logic.
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    Katie got a reaction from GoNotQuietly in 2019 Worlds: Make your predictions   
    Who do you think will win gold? How do you think our rep will do?
    Here's how I see it:
    57kg - Sanayev (Fix DNP) 61kg - Bonne (Graff DNP) 65kg - Otoguru (Zain DNP) 70kg - Batirov (Green DNP) 74kg - Burroughs 79kg - Dake 86kg - Yazdani (PD3 DNP) 92kg - Cox  97kg - Sadulaev (Snyder silver) 125kg- Petriashvili (Gwiz bronze)
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    Katie got a reaction from qc8223 in Track Wrestling Charges   
    It sounds like you disagree with the guy who said the deal US fans are getting from UWW is a “by-product of living in a free enterprise society.”
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    Katie got a reaction from qc8223 in Track Wrestling Charges   
    How is the deal US fans are getting from UWW “a by-product of living in a free enterprise society”?
    I’m definitely not following that logic.
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    Katie got a reaction from jon in Track Wrestling Charges   
    UWW, I can only assume, gets a cut of the fee Track is charging to watch the stream of worlds.
    It has also been reported on this board that most of the world gets to watch the stream for free on the UWW site.
    Yet, wrestling will actually happen at hours that are inconvenient for Americans. 
    If all this is true, doesn’t it seem like US fans are getting the short end of the stick here?
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    Katie reacted to Jon_Kozak in FS Credentials at Worlds-All Weights   
    57KG - 38 Entries. 7 World/Olympic Medalists. 2 World/Olympic Champs
    Andreev (BLR) - World Bronze 14
    Atli (TUR) - World Bronze 18
    Atrinacharchi (IRI) - Asian Champ 19
    Amiraslanov (AZE) - Junior Champ 15, Euro Games Champ 19
    Erdenebat (MGL) - World Bronze 17
    Fix (USA) - Junior Champ  17
    Harutunyan (ARM) - 2 x Junior Bronze 17 and 18…Euro Champ 19
    Micic (SRB) - Jr. Bronze 15, Euro Games Silver 19, Euro Bronze 18
    Sanayev (KAZ) - World Silver 18
    Takahashi (JPN) - World Champ 17, World Bronze 18
    Uguev (RUS) - World Champ 18
    Yatsenko (UKR) - World Bronze 17
     
     
    61KG - 26 Entries. 4 World/Olympic Medalists. 1 World/Olympic Champ
    Bonne (CUB) - World Champ 18, World Bronze 17, World Bronze 14
    Ehsanpoor (IRI) - Asian Champ 19 - 5th in worlds 17
    Graff (USA) - Pan Am Champ 17
    Gvarzatilov (AZE) - World Bronze 16 - Junior Champ 13
    Idrisov (RUS) - U23 Champ 18
    Lomtadze (GEO) - World Silver 16
    Tumenbileg (MGL) - World Bronze 18
    Topal (TUR) - Euro Bronze 18 and 19
    Yamaguchi (JPN) - Junior  Champ 19
     
     
    65KG - 46 Entries. 7 World/Olympic Medalists. 3 World/Olympic champs
    Aliev (AZE) - World Champ 17, 15, 14, Olympic Bronze 16
    Guidea (ROU) - Euro Bronze 16; 18
    Khinchegashvili (GEO) - Olympic Silver 12, Gold 16, World Silver 14, Champ 15, Bronze 17
    Kilicsallayan (TUR) - Euro Silver 19; Bronze 18, University Champ 14, Junior Champ 13
    Muszukajev (HUN) - Junior Silver, Russian Runner Up in 2018
    Niyazbekov (KAZ) - World Bronze - 2011
    Otoguro (JPN) - World Champ 18
    Punia, Bajrang (IND) - World Silver 18
    Rashidov (RUS) - World Silver 17, 18 
    Retherford (USA) - Cadet Champ 12
    Skryabin (BLR) - University Bronze 14, Russian Nationals Bronze 16
    Tevanyan (ARM) - U23 Euro Champ 2019, Jr Bronze 18
    Valdes Tobier (CUB) - World Bronze 17, 18
     
     
    70KG - 30 Entries. 7 World/Olympic Medalists. 1 World/Olympic Champ
    Baev (RUS) - Jr Champ 17, U23 Silver 18
    Batirov (BRN) - World Silver 18…HE’S 34! Junior Silver 03, Euro Silver 04; 09,
    Dogdurbek Uulu (KGZ) - World Bronze 16
    Emamichoughuei (IRI) - U23 Bronze 17, Jr World Bronze 17
    Gadzhiev (POL) - World Silver 17
    Ganzorig (MGL) - World Bronze 13, 14
    Green (USA) - World Bronze 15, Silver 17
    Iakobishvili (GEO) - World Bronze 18, World Champ 17
    Karpach (BLR) - Euro Bronze 18
    Navruzov (UZB) - World Silver 15, Olympic Bronze 16,
    Radulov (UKR) - University Silver 12, University Bronze 13, Euro Bronze 16
    Sava (MDA) - University Silver 16, University Bronze 14
     
     
    74KG - 41 Entries. 10 World/Olympic Medalists. 4 World/Olympic Champs
    Abdurakhmanov (UZB) - World Bronze 14, 18
    Afzali Paemami (IRI) - University Champ 12, 16
    Bekzhanov (KAZ) - World Silver 16
    Kaisanov (KAZ) - Asian Champ 19
    Sakaev (KAZ) - University Bronze 16
    Burroughs (USA) - World Champ 11, 13, 15, 17, Olympic Champ 12, World Bronze 14, 18
    Chamizo (ITA) - World Bronze 10, World Champ 15, 17, Olympic Bronze 16
    Demirtas (TUR) - Olympic Bronze 16, World Bronze 17, 
    Gadzhiev (AZE) - Junior Champ 18, Junior Bronze 19, Sr. Euro Games Bronze 19
    Garzon Caballero (CUB) - He’s 35! Junior world Champ IN 2003 (Andy Simmons was in this bracket)!!! World Bronze 05 (Chris Bono took 22), World Bronze 06 (Bill Zadick won!), World Silver 07 (Doug Schwab took 5th here), World Bronze 10
    Gomez (PUR) - World Silver 11, 
    Kentchadze (GEO) - World Silver 18, 
    Khadjiev (FRA) - Euro Silver 17, 18, Junior Champ 14
    Nurikau (BLR) - World 5th - 14, 15, 17
    Sidakov (RUS) - World Champ 18
    Kumar (IND) - He’s 36! Olympic Silver 12, Olympic Bronze 08, World Champ 10
    Vasilioglu (ROU) - University Silver 18
     
     
    79KG - 24 Entries. 4 World/Olympic Medalists. 1 World/Olympic Champ
    Dake (USA) - World Champ 18
    Gaidarov (BLR) - HE’S 39! World Silver 03, Olympic Silver 08
    Hasanov (AZE) - World Bronze 11, Silver 18, Olympic Bronze 16
    Kurbanov (UZB) - World Bronze 13
    Nabiev (RUS) - Junior Champ 15, U23 Silver 18
    Nazhmudinov (ROU) - U23 Bronze 18
    Salkazanov (SVK) - U23 Champ 18
    Teymouri (IRI) - Asian Champ 19
     
     
    86KG - 46 Entries. 9 World/Olympic Medalists. 1 World/Olympic Champ
    Aminashvili (GEO) - World Bronze 15
    Dauletbekov (KAZ) - U23 Silver 17
    Davlumbaev (KAZ) - U23 Bronze 16
    Downey (USA) - Junior World Silver 12
    Dudarov (GER) - Junior World Silver 12
    Erdin (TUR) - World Silver 18
    Espinal Fajardo (PUR) - Olympic Silver 12
    Friev Naskideava (ESP) - World Bronze 18
    Gostiev (AZE) - Euro Silver 16, 17, 18
    Ianulov (MDA) - University Champ 10, University Bronze 13
    Makoev (SVK) - World Silver 17
    Naifonov (RUS) - Junior World Champ 17, U23 Silver 18, Euro Champ 18
    Orazgylyov (TKM) - U23 Silver 18
    Punia (IND) - Junior Champ 19, Junior silver 18
    Shabanov (BLR) - World Bronze 13, 14, 17, 18
    Takatani (JPN) - World Silver 2014
    Torreblanca (CUB) - Pan Am Champ 19, 17, 15
    Vereb (HUN) - World Bronze 13
    Yazdani Charati (IRI) - World Champ 17, Olympic Champ 16, World Bronze 18, World Silver 15
     
     
    92KG - 20 Entries. 3 World/Olympic Medalists. 1 World/Olympic Champ
    Cox (USA) - World Champ 18, World Bronze 17, Olympic Bronze 16
    Karimimachiani (IRI) - World Bronze 15, 18
    Mtsituri (GEO) - U23 Bronze 17, Euro Silver 19
    Rubaev (MDA) - Junior Silver 2011
    Toth (HUN) - University World Silver 18
    Yankouski (BLR) - World Silver 18
    Zhabrailov (RUS) - Russian Nationals Champ 19, Bronze 18
    Zubairov (AZE) - U23 Champ 18
     
     
    97KG - 28 Entries. 7 World/Olympic Medalists. 3 World/Olympic Champs
    Andriitsev (UKR) - Olympic Silver 2012, World Bronze 14
    Hushtyn (BLR) - Euro Silver 17,18,19
    Ibragimov (UZB) - Olympic Bronze 16
    Odikadze (GEO) - World Bronze 18
    Sadulaev (RUS) - World Champ 14, 15, 18, World Silver 17, Olympic Champ 16
    Saritov (ROU) - World Bronze 11, Olympic Bronze 16
    Shabanibengar (IRI) - U23 Bronze 18
    Sharifov (AZE) - World Champ 11, Olympic Champ 12, World Bronze 09, Olympic Bronze 16
    Snyder (USA) - World Champ, 15, 17, Olympic Champ 16, World Silver 18
    Thiele (GER) - Junior Silver 16
     
     
    125KG - 31 Entries. 6 World/Olympic Medalists. 2 World/Olympic Champs
    Akguel - (TUR) - World Champ 14, 15, World Silver 17 World Bronze 13, Olympic Champ 16
    Berianidze (ARM) - World Bronze 10, 17
    Deng (CHN) - World Silver 18
    Gwiazdowski (USA) - World Bronze 17, 18
    Khotsianivski (UKR) - University Silver 13, University Bronze 12
    Khugaev (RUS) - Russian Champ 19 
    Ligeti (HUN) - University Bronze 10
    Magomedov (AZE) - World Silver 15, World Bronze 11
    Mohebbi (IRI) - Asian Champ 19
    Petriashvili (GEO) - World Champ 17, 18, World Bronze 14, 15, Olympic Bronze 16
    Rakhimov (UZB) - Junior Bronze 18
    Romanov (MDA) - University Bronze 16
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    Katie got a reaction from MDogg in World championships - steaming options   
    Yes. If my memory and understanding are correct, Track bought the rights to stream Worlds in the US after UWW had already done so for free.
    That is exactly why I’m not sure Track adds any value.
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    Katie got a reaction from jon in Track Wrestling Charges   
    Let’s say you planned poorly and were forced to take money from another bank’s ATM. Let’s say further that you ended up paying $10 for the withdrawal (even though it would have been free at your own bank’s ATM).
    Would the normal attitude be annoyance? Or would the normal attitude be excitement at not having to pay the strip club’s ATM fee?
    What do you think?
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    Katie got a reaction from cjc007 in 2019 Worlds: Make your predictions   
    Who do you think will win gold? How do you think our rep will do?
    Here's how I see it:
    57kg - Sanayev (Fix DNP) 61kg - Bonne (Graff DNP) 65kg - Otoguru (Zain DNP) 70kg - Batirov (Green DNP) 74kg - Burroughs 79kg - Dake 86kg - Yazdani (PD3 DNP) 92kg - Cox  97kg - Sadulaev (Snyder silver) 125kg- Petriashvili (Gwiz bronze)
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    Katie got a reaction from airmail in 2019 World Championships - Top Contender, Challengers and Underdog   
    At 4:13 of this video you'll see that Cormier bet Khabib $1500 that JB will beat whoever Russia sends out next month. The bet goes up to $3k for a tech.
    Starting at 3:05, you'll see that Cormier was willing to bet $15k on JB.
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