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  1. AlexSteenTOM

    Seeding all 33

    A few years ago when they got rid of the bye points for first round wins, the NCAA made the baffling decision to continue to award advancement + bonus to the pigtail winners which means drawing into that extra round does give those wrestlers a greater point scoring potential even ignoring the additional bonus point opportunity. It was only unseeded wrestlers that could get those draws (since the start of the 16-seed era at least) so it hasn't been as magnified, but the potential for a team race to be decided by this random chance does exist, though it is small. Now, only those seeded 29-33 will have the potential to draw in, limiting the advantage further. Regardless, it doesn't make sense. My article on the subject that first appeared nearly 2 years ago: https://news.theopenmat.com/college-wrestling-news/ncaa-waived-rules-set-stage-controversy/61463
  2. I believe 1973 Clarion would have ended up with 55 points, good for 4th as a team. They had 4 participants, but only their 3 champs scored. 1st place was worth 12 points, advancement one, falls one bonus point, and a superior decision (then a 10+ point win) was worth a half. Based on that I've got Rohn with 17, Schalles with 20, and Simpson with 18.
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    Anyone Competing Again Before Worlds?

    It is only a ranking series event for WFS, thus no 3 entry per weight limit in MFS. This is confirmed in the pdf you posted. MFS's last ranking series event is the Medved.
  4. Some of this will be mitigated going forward as the previous year's World Championships/Olympics will factor into the points. So, unless a weight change happens, prior champs will be boosted to begin with. Also, Sadulaev is #2, but at 92 kg because he has been wrestling there. If he had wrestled those same comps at 97 kg, he'd be up there anyway. The location issue is a tough one. They tried to have a tournament in South Africa, but it got shifted to the Yasar Dogu because the registration numbers were low. I think they need to put tournaments in geographically different locations regardless, but it could further distort the point standings if the best wrestlers don't go. As has been alluded to here, you can only build a system like this, you can't force people to care about it.
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    Future of women's college wrestling?

    The bid has been in for a while: https://www.teamusa.org/USA-Wrestling/Features/2017/August/10/USA-Wrestling-helps-lead-coalition-seeking-Emerging-Sports-status-for-womens-wrestling It is a long process. I'm not sure which 20 teams (which can include competitive clubs) were cited, but I can add Emmanuel (moving to D2), Limestone (adding), Gannon (adding), Colorado-Mesa (adding), Fontbonne (adding), North Central College (adding), and Westminster (adding) to your list.
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    Future of women's college wrestling?

    The WCWA is a means to an end just like the AIAW was for other women's sports before the NCAA and NAIA got involved with them. It is almost assuredly going away eventually, though I'd guess it has a few years left at least. The NAIA granted women's wrestling invitational status in April which means there will be an NAIA invitational each year going forward as the sport works to fulfill the requirements for a full-blown championship. The NCAA is still in the process of considering whether to grant women's wrestling emerging sport status which would be another step towards an NCAA tournament, though it wouldn't be the last one. While the number of teams continues to grow and the sport continues to build towards an official NAIA and NCAA championship each year, I'd expect the WCWA to continue. In many ways, it will be a good thing when it is no longer needed, though it will be bittersweet given the WCWA's role in helping the sport grow. It will be interesting to see if they try to hold on and keep the sport united across the two major college sport organizations in the US, though history suggests that would be a losing battle.
  7. A good synopsis by the legendary Jay Hammond through 2004: http://www.wrestlingstats.com/ncaa/pdf/NCAA%20Bout%20Scoring.pdf
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    NFHS Rule Question

    Are you sure that isn't an old poster? That seems to fly directly in the face of the rule changes announced earlier this year. The committee approved two changes in Rule 5-11 related to falls and near falls. In 5-11-1, the shoulders or scapula of the offensive wrestler no longer must be inbounds to earn a fall. The committee agreed that wrestling should continue if the offensive wrestler’s supporting parts remain inbounds and no body part of the defensive wrestler goes off the mat. In 5-11-5, “unless any part of the shoulders or both scapulae of the defensive wrestler is inbounds” was eliminated. If wrestling is continuing during a match, near falls and falls will be awarded/earned regardless of the out-of-bounds line. In a related rule, Rule 5-15-2b, c was changed as follows: “Near-fall points or a fall shall be earned while the supporting points of either wrestler are inbounds.” “The committee agreed that offensive wrestling should be rewarded,” Hopkins said. “If wrestling is continuing, as allowed by current rules, and points for escapes and reversals are allowed, the ability to earn a fall or near fall should be there as well, with no deference to the out-of-bounds line.” http://www.nfhs.org/articles/alternate-two-piece-uniform-approved-for-high-school-wrestling/?utm_source=delivra&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2017+Wrestling+Rules+Changes&utm_id=482276&dlv-ga-memberid=14639184&utm_term=Wrestling+Rules+Changes&mid=14639184&ml=482276
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    Watching Boise State Football Game

    14 sports are required in D1 either split seven and seven or, in a nod to football, it can be six for men and eight for women. At least two team sports per gender.
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    They have the same as we do, one bronze medal match and one final. No head-to-heads.
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    This is easily their best performance in the last 10 years and probably ever. They've been solid over the last 5 years or so, but this is a new level.
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    NCAA and Greco World Champ?

    It has never been done by a non-HWT in Greco. Even among the heavies, no one has won a Greco World Championship and a D1 title.
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    Women's wrestling an NCAA emerging sport?

    IronChef, Did you read my article or just see the graphic on top? I spoke with Sally Roberts who is the founder of Wrestle Like A Girl and was one of the driving forces behind getting schools to sign on and be one of the 10 (there ended up being 11) to write Letters of Commitment. She told me she asked Brands and he responded immediately with a phone call and then that letter. At the time, that was expected to be enough to have Iowa on that list with Arizona State. Instead, the requirements changed and all schools that sent letters also needed to include proposed budget information (signed by the AD or President) for the new program before the August 1st deadline. Iowa and three other D1 teams (I don't know which ones) were not able to get that together in time so they weren't on the list despite pledging their intent to start women's programs. That letter from Brands IS a Letter of Commitment, confirmed with one of the chief principles involved with the effort.
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    Texas HS Wrestling

    Those two combined for 38 points last year which would have been good for 15th overall. Texas is an interesting case because they used to be (and could be again) a contender for the Director's Cup which accounts for performance in every NCAA sport. Stanford, who led in the standings released after nationals, earned 50 points for finishing 24th. The champions earned 100. Even a 57th place finish earns 15 points. If Texas decided they wanted to make a run at the Director's Cup again, a wrestling team would be a reasonable option. I won't hold my breath, but it's more logical than many of the schools we wish for.