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  1. Here's some help: http://www.m2wrestling.com/
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    Yasar Dogu Saturday results

    What (if any) are the monetary prizes for Yasar Dogu?
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    The call

    My point was that there is uncertainty regarding whether that was exposure or not - it was in response to a statement that it was factual that it was not. Sure, we want to get the call right but at times doing so has wider implications. If anything, this sequence illustrates the importance of the timing of the challenge. Yianni's urgency changes dramatically over the final 40-50 seconds of the match if he believes he is losing on criteria rather than if he's winning 8-6. There were people intimately close to the action that stated other highly respected referees were disgusted with the mat judges ruling.
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    The call

    Exposure points, four-pointers, and other scores do not exist when you’re abstracting from procedures and rules. There are many folks -likely better informed and less biased- that disagree about the exposure. I think it could’ve went either way but it certainly is not a fact that no exposure occurred.
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    Final X Rutgers live thread

    Can we all at least agree that the rules (supposing they were appropriately applied) are sub-optimal. If there is an end-of-period review that results in a score change, the wrestling should continue at the time of the score change. The idea that the wrestler's tactics and the entire dynamics of the match do not change in response to the score change is preposterous - only to be outdone by the fact that our rules somehow do not take this into account.
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    World Team Trials - Day 1

    I was wondering the same thing. Schultz won the US Open too. What exactly is the criteria?
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    Nolf to 74kg

    Well Lewis won gold at Junior Worlds so there’s at least one reason to think he’s ahead of Nolf when it comes to freestyle.
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    When is Hall gonna wrestle?

    Unfortunate only because we haven't been able to see him compete much in freestyle over that last few years. I agree with essentially everything in your post.
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    When is Hall gonna wrestle?

    It is unfortunate and understandable that a lot of people forget how good Mark Hall is at freestyle. The idea that he can't beat Zahid or Dieringer in freestyle is pretty absurd.
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    When is Hall gonna wrestle?

    He'll be wrestling today at the Last Chance Qualifier at 79kg!
  11. I think it is, especially in the context of P4P rankings. These rankings are pretty obscure, you're comparing wrestlers across weights and evaluating which wrestlers are better on a weight-adjusted basis. There isn't a lot of information for this purpose in the first place so why throw anything away? I am pretty sure Flo's P4P rankings are more consistent with my view. Like now, I wouldn't argue at all if he was the UWW Freestyle Wrestler of the Year again but I'm not going to crown him with the P4P champ if Sadulaev also wins a world championship. Sadulaev has been dominant at 86kg, 92kg, and 97kg -- which seems extremely useful for a discussion on P4P rankings -- but you would rather ignore that information.
  12. Right, I was acknowledging your disclaimer and saying that I find it unwise to throw away past information. It is one thing to update as new information comes in but discarding past results doesn't seem likely to improve rankings.
  13. Throwing away all of that useful information (career results) is rationale only if you want to have that discussion just for the sake of it.
  14. If there is a wrestling discussion between Taylor and Sadulaev, is it possible that said discussion has any merit at all?
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    Is Yianni the Second Best Ever?

    And he already has as many NCAA titles as Taylor. I bet Taylor would trade his bonus percentage for a few of Dake’s titles