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  1. State and school mandates and guidelines will play a big factor. For example, schools in NY probably won't be able travel outside of the state. Who knows if Ivy Leagues will even be open for students, let alone athletes. 

    The second big issue I see is testing and it's cost on schools. Say your wrestling team has a 30 man roster that needs tested twice a week. Say it's about $25 bucks a test, twice a week per wrestler, that's almost $20,000 for a 3 month season just for testing. 

    The NCAA has fully taken a hands off approach and has pretty much left it up to conferences and schools and they're working through it now. 


  2. The unspoken component to all of this (particularly this season) is testing. The Patriot League for example would require athletes to be tested 3 times a week. That adds up to alot of dollars and cents for sports that essentially make nothing in return. 

    This is assuming that schools have the expendable income to provide that testing. I'd imagine many teams are looking at steep roster cuts or not paying for testing all together for certain sports.


  3. On 10/10/2020 at 1:24 AM, Swayz said:

    Then as a dam coach,  promote your team and get the information on how to do it.  Anymore most programs even at smaller levels give the athletes a fillable link.  They submit, and it automatically loads.  Then it's one click approval to make it live.   I get there are cuts (it's everywhere...I freaking work in public health and we have huge department cuts, unless you are in COVID19 or Disaster Preparedness).   But,  at some point,  you owe it to your fan base, and the parents of the wrestlers you recruited to have a roster up.   

    Not always that simple as many SIDs cover multiple sports and to update the back-end of a website with a current roster (when many coaches haven't made cuts or evaluated their team due to Covid) it falls to the back of the to-do list. 

    There's a ton of time consumption for SIDs having to squeeze every possible ounce of positivity in the current sports world. 

    Lastly, many schools are cutting additional staff and merging duties to existing staff. It's tough out there and for the amount of coverage that schools gave to their current and even post graduate athletes for Senior Nationals was pretty cool imo. Even if it was just for a weekend. 


  4. Can you blame them? For most that aren't on a full-ride you're still spending thousands of dollars each year at a university. Now, perhaps more than ever, guys are being forced into looking at the bigger picture of their post-athletic careers. Regardless of where you stand on it, Covid is forcing a lot of people to look in the mirror.  


  5. 10 hours ago, Billyhoyle said:

    This is the exact model that needs to be applied throughout the country. An independent endowment fund for the sport that does not stick with the university if they cut the sport. If you are an alum at a university and do not have this set up, start ASAP. 

    As with most things this is easier said than done. Endowments must be built high enough that programs can survive on the interest. I'm sure plenty of programs would love to have 5 million sitting in the bank but realistically that's the number that many programs would require to stick around.


  6. Despite the fact that so many seem to think that the ENTIRE planet shutting down in one form or another over a global pandemic is a personal attack on their freedom and ability to enjoy things, the reality is there is a very slim chance of any college sports this year. 

    Regardless of if you believe in the dangers of the virus or not, colleges and universities would be slapped with an insane amount of liability to make sports happen. In addition, the economic hit that many schools have had, they are focused on figuring out how to bring students back safely because they need that room and board money. Then in goes to testing, costs of vaccines , etc. 

    Simply put there are so many factors that go into all levels of sport right now that to just say "we need sports and fans now, rabble rabble rabble" is ignorant and quite frankly a sad take. 


  7. Even assuming that there is an actual vaccine made by the end of the year, the logicistics of getting it to schools is going to be a nightmare. That and looking at the costs of regular testing, vaccine costs for universities (especially small ones) I just can't see it. Resources are going to go to football teams if anything and I imagine most non-revenue sports will be left in the dust. 


  8. 6 hours ago, gimpeltf said:

    U23 Worlds Finland 11/23-29

    Junior Worlds Serbia 12/4-10

    Senior Worlds Serbia 12/12-20

    All above- all styles.

    All still on UWW site.

    Pending that all countries can and will agree to the criteria to hold the events. I personally don't see it happening but would love to watch high quality wrestling again. 


  9. 9 hours ago, hammerlockthree said:

    I am a paying customer. 

    I don't like seeing our sports leading media platform undermine itself constantly with this fanboy approach to their jobs. Let's say you are correct, and Pyles was tacitly admitting that they bailed on Downey because his tweets were not PC enough, that means they grabbed a guy whose almost entire relevance to the sport was being a loud idiot on social media, offered him $10,000, and then bailed on him because it turned out he is a loud idiot on social media. This is not competence. 

    If it turns out Downey has basically committed a crime and they can't talk about it(as lurker thinks), then they should say that, or say nothing, not treat their customers like a bunch of idiots. 

    I see your point, but he WAS a world team member (David Taylor or not he was, s*** happens) as far a relevancy to the sport. He is an idiot however and I dislike the Flobro's promoting that kind of frat dude behavior. It's fine in doses but they've just become out of pocket with it. 


  10. 19 minutes ago, Billyhoyle said:

     

    A school like Stanford is absolutely worth the tuition. The same is true for most of the premier state schools (by this I mean the top 1 to 2 state schools in each state and top like 5 in Texas and 10 in California). In fact, college tuition is generally the best investment you can make if you actually put effort into college. The issue with the student loan crisis is that there are many really bad universities that charge the same price as these good universities-and people pay it/attend because they are told they have to have a college degree.

    Sounds subjective for you to decide which colleges are worth the tuition or not. The crisis is here because the average cost of tuition has gone up by nearly 3,000% in the last fifty years. That in addition to letting 18 year olds take out essentially unlimited money in the form of student loans. What other loan lets you take out thousand with no credit or payment history? Then they receive federal aid based on how much money their parents make? It's a completely broken system in a league of its own.


  11. 13 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

     

    Tuition is certainly not over 100k a year anywhere. The highest tuition sticker price you'll see are at the ivies of around 50k. Some graduate programs will be a little higher. And that's the sticker price. Almost nobody actually pays anywhere near that. I think the average family contribution for Harvard is somewhere around 10-15k. I grew up middle to maybe even upper-middle class, and my estimated contribution for Harvard was like around that.  There are no merit scholarships (completely need based) at the ivies, so your cost to attend is determined by your parents income and ability to contribute. The inflated sticker prices are mostly a symbol of prestige and nothing more. 

    Incidentally, the students you want to deport are the only ones actually paying sticker price for tuition usually. That's why this is such a huge deal. If they're deported, a huge number will drop their programs and the universities will have a huge shortfall in tuition income. Can you explain the policy justification for deporting exchange students here legally on visas? Outside of a general idea that "foreigner=bad."

    You right, there totally isn't nearly $2 Trillion in student loan debt. Call it sticker price or whatever you want, Covid is exposing the insanely broken systems that have built up in higher education and our athletic departments. Sadly it took something like this for people to wake up to the real issues that have been plaguing colleges and students around the country.  


  12. 5 minutes ago, dman115 said:

    So why is it even a debate if "people would just believe the science"??  Because scientist are debating it.  People think the scientist they believe are right and the others are wrong and vice versa.  The problem comes is that you get people who bash others for believing something different.  Then admit that the "science" out there is still unknown yet turn around and talk out of the other side of their mouth and believe what they want to believe to fit the narrative they want it to fit...hence it becomes political.  And the only thing that is for certain is that this somehow has turned into a political witch hunt on the president...like Russia and every other asinine thing the stupid politicians and media come up with.  Again...I don't even like Trump...he has done some good stuff but he has also done and said some seriously head shaking things...but in the end he is ALL our president...just like Obama was (who I voted for the first time), just like Bush was, just like Billy the rapist Clinton was (who I voted for the first time).

    Back to Covid...if some of you seriously don't think it is political...how do bars and restaurants and beaches get ALL the blame for the recent uptick??  And yet massive gatherings of protestors, looters, and rioters all around the country doesn't even get mentioned as a cause??

    Okay, when was the last time the ENTIRE PLANET was on the same page with something? 


  13. On 7/2/2020 at 11:41 AM, Plasmodium said:

    The devastation from lost football and basketball revenue at DI schools is easy to understand. What about the other divisions?  Surely, cancelling a football season at the average DII school doesn't cost money.  It probably even saves a little.

    Lol. Couldn't be more wrong. Those schools depend on football similarly to DI institutions. The ROI on football is insane, and the lost of a season is a major blow to budgets. 


  14. 1 minute ago, TexRef said:

    Uncle bernard, You are absolutely correct. The amenities that these institutions have to offer now to get kids is insane. It truly has become an arms race. The days of going to college and living in a dorm room that is not very comfortable are long gone. I will say that a not so up to date and comfy dorm room did motivate a lot of people to hurry and finish school and get the hell out!  

    Also why the country has almost $2 trillion in student loan debt. School used to be affordable before their were ipads in the walls and stuff. 


  15. Just now, nom said:

    Sorry for sounding like that.  I’m just tired of people whining about things like this or similar (last year seniors should get another redshirt year).  These kind of issues need to be seen in the big picture. They are minor and we should not expect big accommodations given the bigger issues. 

    Many are missing the big picture.

    People that are under the impression that things will go back to normal are going to be sorely mistaken. 


  16. Yeah, you're going to see alot worse than this come the end of summer/fall. 

    Universities were hemorrhaging money before Covid and banking on tuition/loans while spending ridiculous amounts on campus luxuries. 

    Schools are moving online and the absurd costs of attending schools will be forced to go down. Cuts will be made. Don't want to see it, but the worst is far from over. 


  17. 1 minute ago, calot said:

    A actual push or a step.Just curious if you want to allow straight pushes? I wouldn't want that to much like sumo for me

    How many freestyle matches have you watched that were too much like sumo? People get so amped up to see someone "shoot em off" the mat for a stall call so I don't think it would be any different for a point. If anything it would make it more exciting. The sumo thing is such a poor argument to me. 

    P.S. Sumo is lit. 

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