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  1. A typing error. When compared to your complete lack of wrestling history, general intelligence and complete ignorance - I clearly come out tops.
  2. What conspiracy? You seem to think that there are three. The first is resolved by a quick check on the UWW database.
  3. As I said a polite in another post - "I can't help you" is appropriate. My post was to ask for help to get back the results lost on a failed hard drive. It appears that American fans of Olympic style wrestling are just sad and dumb.
  4. Well the average IQ can't be lower. What conspiracy do you have in mind? That Karelin was scored upon in the six years prior to 2000, Karelin tried to get his 2000 loss overturned or getting a 1999 match overturned in his favour?
  5. Try and treat this as a question and not an insult. Asking for clarification about a Karelin stirred up a host of imbecilic replies - which necessitated this question. I fear this one will do the same. By the way if you are a dumb hick a reply of "I cannot help you" is appropriate.
  6. As I said I had the information on a now non-functioning external hard drive and ASKED for help in finding confirmation of this FACT. Around this time UWW, or FILA as it was known then, was highly corrupt - Brandon Slay had two victories overturned and Kerry McCoy one. These matches were not re-wrestled just overturned. I don't understand what is wrong with wrestling fans in the USA, in addition to the low IQs of course, that makes them deeply unpleasant, defensive, ignorant and dishonest. Karelin was scored on plenty of times in the Official record. Look at the UWW database for, say, the same 1999 World Championships in GR - Karelin dropped a point to Georgi Saldadze. Don't you do any research? Or is your brain on permanent idiot that writes anything than comes into that pathological organ? Clearly I have made a huge mistake going to the official forum of USA Wrestling and largest wrestling forum in English for information. Take about a stereotype of dumb wrestling hicks. Duh.
  7. Just to add. There is no point asking members of USA Wrestling as they themselves have fallen to the myth and seem totally clueless. For example former Greco-Roman National Team Coach, Steve Fraser.
  8. I think we all should e-mail UWW to get the original score. The Karelin worship is getting in the way.
  9. The match was in 1999. Mureiko got his arm raised as he was awarded the match 1-0 (if I remember right). The Russian immediately challenged the result and after paying for the appeal, the match was rescored 2-0 in favour of Karelin. Karelin also challenged the match he lost to Rulson in the 2000 Games. In this case and given the world-wide coverage the appeal was not pursued. I am sorry that I cannot offer a reference for this story due to losing my database of results. However I have e-mailed UWW today for clarification. I suggest you and everyone on this forum do the same.
  10. Exactly, there is no mention of the protest on the UWW database; as in the case of the Karelin match. It is virtually impossible, other than long memories, to even say that these things happened. That is my predicament - knowing something happened and being unable to prove it.
  11. In fact the UWW database lists the match time at 0:00. so it clearly is a forfeit.
  12. They were word documents taken from news articles. It is over 20 years ago now but I am sure the informati9on is out there somewhere - I just can't find it.
  13. The UWW database is not very useful as it lists only list the final result and not if a match was overturned. I am sure most people know about Cary Kolat having wins overturned but there is nothing in the database about it.
  14. Actually the final result was 2-0 to Karelin. However I think it is the that very match that Mureiko was initially declared the winner before the result being overturned. Thanks for looking.
  15. " He was a hero , not cool to drag his name through the mud" As I said, pure hero worship on you part. I am not dragging his name through the mud at all. Facts please not unthinking praise.
  16. This is the problem - there is so much mythology surrounding Karelin that it is almost impossible to get the facts. For example Karelin's Wikipedia states that Karelin had not had a point scored on for six years before the Gardner match. The information link is to comments by former Greco-Roman National Team Coach, Steve Fraser. However in in just the year before, 1999; Karelin dropped a point to G. Saldadze. I think Fraser was too busy believing the hype rather than looking at reality. If this helps but I think that the overturned math was against Mureiko. However I am not sure.
  17. "His only loss prior to Rulon's 2000 victory" I did not say that he lost - only that Karelin got a result overturned in his favour.
  18. "Some folks assume he lost a match because he placed second in a world cup, but that was a team effort. " I am not talking about that. It was a single effort at either the worlds (more likely) or the Europeans (less likely) that Karelin challenged and won. As I said to the pervious user my statements are completely true - I was wondering if someone could link to some verification.
  19. That is not true. He lost a match in 1998 0r 1999 and got the result overturned. I know that they is a lot of Karelin Worship but many of the headlines are false (no one had scored on Karelin for 6 years before his match with Rulon; Karelin had not be scored on for 10 years etc), as I said I had these results on my external hard drive but it died. They are true recorded facts I was hoping someone had a link to verify.
  20. ALEXANDER KARELIN; is unquestionably the greatest Greco-Roman wrestler of all time so please don't take my questions as disrespectful. The following are facts but due to a catastrophic failure on an external hard drive I have lost my proof of the facts. 1, Karelin lost a match sometime several years before losing to Rulson Gardner, in the worlds, to another wrestler. However, he managed to get the result overturned. Can anyone link to a story that confirms this fact. 2, Karelin tried to get his loss to Rulon Gardner overturned. Again, these are completely true facts I would just like to have confirmation to show others.
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