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  1. 1 hour ago, CA_Wrestler said:

    Watched the 68kg final again and I was really surprised they didn't stop the action when Miyaji's knee was twisted the complete wrong way and got pinned because of it.   Damn, that looked painful!

    yeah the ref messed up, it was a dangerous angle while still in the single leg and then it turned into a roll and pin... it's the officials job to protect the athlete there, he didn't and unsurprisingly she got injured, hopefully not too badly.

    I'll put my conspiracy hat on and say he may have let the action go because he got a brief he was to try and encourage the development of wrestling in Kyrgyzstan, so to speak...


  2. 1 hour ago, CA_Wrestler said:

    Mukaida is already great at 53kg, but if Fujinami beats Mukaida for the team spot, Japan is going to be lights out at 50 and 53kg for YEARS.

    Mukaida has been a bit flakey (by J-women's 1st team standards) - bottled it in 2017, blew it at the 2020 asians, and was beaten by the PRK girl at the 2019 asians & worlds (the latter a 12-1 tech fall). I see Fujinami taking that spot in a year or two, then Japan have Susaki, Fujinami, and Ozaki to rule & 50, 53, and 62 for the next couple of cycles (plus a Kawai or two, if they stick around). The growing depth of women's wrestling will see them get squeezed out of the 2 heaviest weight categories completely though IMO.


  3. It was certainly a starring Olympics for Susaki - she got to carry the flag in the opening ceremony, they arrange the wrestling tournament so she had the potential of getting in the headline slot in the last match on the last day of the Olympics, and she delivered the performance expected of her without breaking a sweat.

    So it's kinda crazy to think in 2019 the odds were she wouldn't even be there, after Irie squeaked her out of the team for the worlds (and Olympic team slot that would have come with any medal). Cruel as it is, JWA and JOC must have been somewhat relieved when Irie crashed and burned at the worlds. It also goes to show, even when you're (by far) the best at what you do, luck and timing beyond your control can make all the difference in the world.

    Also good that their mens free got a gold with Otoguru, it'd be a shame if they hadn't won any gold at their home olympics, overall the Japanese have my favorite style to watch and he's one of the best examples of why I think that.


  4. 3 minutes ago, lu1979 said:

    Well R Kawai may be locked in for Gold but I doubt she is more locked in than Saori Yoshida was in 2016 and you remember what happened there.  I know Helen has had to overcome some tough obstacles but I will not count her out.  i am hoping she can find that old magic one more time.

    Isn't Helen competing at 53kg anyway? Risako will be at 57kg.

    Personally I do think R Kawai is more of a favorite than Yoshida was in 2016. Yoshida was 34/35 years old and her margin of victory was shrinking every year in the worlds. In 2015 she was crying after winning the gold, when asked why - 'because it might be the last' - so I think she knew too. I saw several ppl calling it years in advance and I even bet on Helen winning (at great odds) - I wouldn't bet against Risako though (although the Chinese girl might be worth a bet at long odds, if that's your kinda thing). Risako is also the *only* Japanese lady to have kept a perfect track record at the world championships since the last Olympics.


  5. The only Japanese women I think are 'locked on' for gold (or near enough) are Susaki and R. Kawai, while Gray and Mensah are clear favorites at their weights, so yes it seems very possible.

    I believe 53kg would be Mukaida for Japan, who is a gold contender but unreliable by Japanese standards (and lost 2x North Korean in 2019 - last time getting teched - shame that N. Korea just pulled out of the games...).


  6. It's interesting that Yordanov doesn't get as many mentions in these kinds of topics despite having more world championship medals than anyone (and as many of them gold as anyone else).

    However he 'only' has one olympic gold, and one olympic bronze. Maybe because of the difference in visibility between that and 'only' the WC? Bulgaria boycotted in '84 as well of course... 


  7. it's basically like folkstyle except you can win by make opponents submit with illegal moves rather than having the ref call 'illegal move' on you, as well as by pinning them.

    which shouldn't be too surprising because collegate wrestling was adapted from catch wrestling to make it more 'acceptable' to moms and pops as a collegate sport, so far as I gather. (I suppose freestyle traces the same roots but it moved further away from the original ethos with very limited mat time and a focus on moves that roll the opponent to score 'exposure points').

    IMO it should become more relevant again in today's neverending quest for ratings, as I can see it being potentially a lot more fun to watch (for the layperson) than the pretty much any other grappling style.


  8. 15 hours ago, FriendlyCamper said:

    Can you define "Pro-Russian"

    Well for comparison I browsed some discussion about this news on Reddit and there were a lot of high-rating comments were along the lines that Russia is a 'disgusting' country  with an endless list of crimes populated by neanderthals and the world would be a much better place if it simply didn't exist.

    I mean cheating at sports games is bad mmmkay but that seemed a bit much to me. As for the rest of it let's just say I have a much more positive opinion about Russian people, culture, and yes even it's role in the world today, that the fair and tolerant people of Reddit.
    However I'm not American so I'm allowed to think that way if I want ;)

     

    Oh and I guess some of their wrestlers are fun to watch as well...


  9. Susaki/Irie is an interesting selection dilemma:

    You have Susaki who is undefeated internationally, 2x world champ (aged 18 and 19) and crushed the field last time out, looks all set to be the star & 'face' of the team for your home Olympics. If I was coach I'd be completely confident of Susaki winning gold in 2020.

    ...but then there is Irie who must be a bad/awkward match for Susaki as they trade wins in domestic tournaments with Irie coming out on top slightly more often. However Irie has fallen short several times at the global level and has no world titles yet. If I was coach I would not be completely confident of Irie winning gold in 2020.
    But, she just won the selection battle again & your own rules say if she even gets a Bronze at worlds this year then she goes to Tokyo... what a headache. ;)


  10. 6 minutes ago, Housebuye said:

    Good. They called turkey on it

    She won the Euro U23 with hair pulls and another of Turkey's juniors won the Euro juniors with them (not called despite replays and tantrums from her opponent). Hopefully they start being more consistent ruling against it so they have to change their 'style'


  11. 37 minutes ago, Gantry said:

    Great to see Mexico with a quarterfinalist on the women's side. Anyone know if Romero is an American representing Mexico or is she a native who grew up and trained there?  Would be great if they were providing resources towards developing their young female wrestlers...

    She is a legitimately Mexican Mexican. Won the pan-am this year. Support only goes so far though - https://www.elsoldehidalgo.com.mx/deportes-local/alejandra-romero-solicita-patrocinio

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