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    Nick Suriano

    Very well said and excellent description of their differences, and somewhat supports what I'm talking about. Suriano is just not a guy who is going to use angles, in/out, fakes, etc to beat the top tier because he just doesn't have that slickness. If you look at their takedown / attack style (Brands / Suriano), it's very similar. Straight on, textbook form, almost looks a little slow but the form is so good they usually get to the legs. He just needs to maul the dog**** out of guys with his strong hand fighting and physicality and up his pace significantly. Doesn't seem like he has the shape right now to do that for 7 minutes, he's the one breaking at the end.
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    Nick Suriano

    I agree with your assessment but I disagree that his ceiling is low. Particularly in neutral he actually reminds me a bit of college era Tom Brands, although Brands was much more aggressive. While it's clear Suriano is happy where he ended up, I think that Iowa would have been his ultimate ideal fit. My solution for him is that nothing is wrong with his technique, I just think he needs to up his pace and overwhelm guys with it and the conditioning aspect Iowa stresses would have gotten him there IMO.
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    Battle of the Italians

    Was in Chicago for work a while back and someone recommended this place but I thought they said "Illuminati's". Had some trouble locating it and asked a few people where I could find "Illuminati's" but finally got set straight, haha. Good deep dish.
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    Battle of the Italians

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    Battle of the Italians

    Surprised that nobody has yet mentioned possibly the current most traditional Italian looking, and definitely the most Italian name in college wrestling today, that of course being Nick Piccinniccinni (not sure but I may have left out an ici, ini, icci, inni, or picnic there).
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    Weight Class Change Question

    Definitely seems like an ever evolving set of rules throughout time. For h.s. duals we would weigh in on the morning before the meet, just the wrestler and coach, so honors system in-place (which my coach upheld). Make the weight and then get a 3 lb allowance before the match that evening, when the other team shows up and both teams weigh in at +3 lb, in each other's presence. Tournaments were scratch weight the morning of, and I seem to remember a +2 lb allowance for the next day (if necessary).
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    Weight Class Change Question

    So I would assume that the hydration testing and the weekly weight loss limits were additional aspects added with the new weight classes? A 1.5% a week weight loss limit would definitely require some thorough, dedicated planning. I would assume that the crazy stories like Randy Lewis has told are basically a thing of the past now. Again, all things I agree with except for eliminating an entire weight class / size of wrestler.
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    Weight Class Change Question

    Thanks for your answers, good to hear from someone who actually went through it first person. If you could, explain 'C' a bit more. I wrestled in high school in the late 80s / early 90s. As I recall, say for 119 lb, at at the beginning of the season I actually made 119 lb, but then the allowance went UP as the season went on, to 121 and then 122 for state(s). Are you saying that your season started WITH an allowance, and then it decreased as the season progressed? I also recall that our certification process consisted of a single weigh-in at the beginning of the season, which had to be within a certain percentage of the lowest weight one wanted to wrestle at. So the season often involved a big weight cut right off the bat for many. Based on the weigh-in process, I can also see why someone would compare the old/new weights that way.
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    Weight Class Change Question

    While I would agree that weight cutting is not as prevalent as it once was, I still think that brutal cuts do still happen and I wouldn't put a weight cut related incident out of the realm of possibility nowadays. And aren't there still saunas on-site at many team's training facilities? I'm not complaining about any of the changes and I am definitely for anything that makes the sport safer and better (which I think has happened in both cases). I'm just not sure what the exact changes were, and what it accomplished when guys could actually cut MORE weight the very first season after the changes are made. My main issue was getting rid of 118, as I think that 1) for me, lightweights in general are more fun to watch, 2) There would be a surplus of quality competitors to fill out a 118 lb class. I know that many disagree, just my 0.02
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    Weight Class Change Question

    Good example right there - someone who actually cut more weight (albeit just a pound more), the first season of the new classes, and at a year older (so possibly physically more mature and naturally heavier). Everyone knows how much saunas are still used, and it would be foolish IMO to think that plastics are no longer is use. I still don't really see a significant change that came about, other than eliminating 118.
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    Weight Class Change Question

    I'm sure this has been covered in the past, so forgive me but I want to go over it again. As most of us know, in one season in the 90s after weight cut related deaths of two or three wrestlers some actions were taken in which all of the weights were adjusted upward 7 pounds - 118 turned into 125, 126 to 133, etc. so that for the remainder of that season, every wrestler who was certified for and wrestling in a specific weight class, was given the 7 pound allowance. It is also my understanding that no wrestler was allowed to cut to the new weight (i.e., a 134 lb wrestler, now wrestling at 141 lb, could not cut to the new 133 class, which used to be 126). The purpose was to drastically reduce the weight cutting for the remainder of the season in order to prevent further deaths, and to get a handle on weight certification protocols, that I get. Without actually doing any reasonably simple research, my questions are: 1) What was allowed in the season(s) directly after that season? Could a former 134 lb / current 141 lb wrestler now compete at the new 133lb class, or even at 125? If so, what did the reclassification really accomplish, other than to eliminate the 118 lb class (which I consider a travesty)? 2) I believe some weight certification and weigh-in rules were instituted, but what were those rules? It certainly did't seem to eliminate weight cutting. 3) When comparing wrestlers of different eras, there are some who do not compare wrestlers from one of the "old" weight classes, to someone in the closest "new" weight class. An example from a recent thread was when someone said you can't compare an "old" 158 to a current 157, that because of the 7 lb allowance (given for the remainder of that one season in the 90's) you would have to compare them to those who wrestle/wrestled in the current 165 lb class. I really do not understand the logic here. Might be dumb questions (although a co-worker says that there is no such thing as dumb questions, the dumb people who ask them are the real thing) but bear with me.
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    UM v PSU

    Pretty amazing record. At this point in his career, if he doubles his # of wins, maintains the winning % and continues his rate of AAs and NCs,, his record will be approximately equal to Gable's. I see that happening, and then some.
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    PSU - how the dynasty will end

    The BAMF-ery that would ensure would be off the charts, imagine the twitter activity on that team.
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    PSU - how the dynasty will end

    Hard to see it ending at this rate but one has to wonder if the streak will hit a wall much like Gable's streak did in the 80's, when Iowa was going for 10 NCAAs in a row and suddenly dropped out for 5 or 6 years. If it is business as usual for Penn State in 2021, then I think we all will have to admit that Cael has just got it figured out better than everyone. What I could see happening is Cael's program stagnating a bit due to age and success, while someone like Snyder, Taylor or Dake takes the reigns at a competing school and begins to attract the top talent. Cael will become "old fashioned" eventually, much like how Gable seems to be now.
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    Suriano screwed up

    This. Way too conservative in the early going. Converted the first shot he took for a td without much trouble but then he shut it down. His form is so solid, he should be shooting all match because he will score on the majority of his shots. In neutral he actually reminds me of Tom Brands a bit, nothing really crazy but just super solid setups and attacks. Looks like maybe some gas tank issues and maybe something going on in his head.
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