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Ray Brinzer

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  1. Mostly, yes. I see no good in throwing around expressions of contempt, except where people earn them. The kid who can't get off the bottom because he's weak and has poor balance is not very good. The father who screams at him for two minutes after the match is garbage.
  2. I find nothing to object to in this, except that it doesn't address what I said, or the point of the conversation. Sure, middle school wrestlers can learn and do lots of interesting things. And they should. Clubs can be great. More competence, both from wrestlers and coaches, is desirable. All quite solid points.
  3. Oh, hey, a line of sarcasm. When you have nothing useful to say, might as well not tax your brain trying to pretend otherwise. Yes, you have to think of the children. Because to most high-level wrestlers, your average high school state champ looks like a child fumbling around with some favorite toys. I guess how you regard that depends on how you think of children. I'm all for having highly experienced coaches at the lower levels. Why don't you arrange that? Meanwhile, a coach with no experience is better than no coach. Granted, there are too many closed-minded blockheads, who think they know a lot more than they do. But you know what? That's pretty common amongst coaches with wrestling experience, too. Funny thing is, you have a conversation with a Gable, or a Kolat, or a Zadick, and they'll listen and think about different ideas. You talk to Joe I. Madeittostates, and he thinks the whole thing is really obvious, and he's on top of it. And one expression of this pig-headed self-assurance will be telling you who the garbage is.
  4. I'm going to lay out my perspective on this. Naturally, no one else needs to accept it, but I think it has a lot of utility. When I was a kid (this would be around 3rd and 4th grade), I used to look at the wall charts to see who was in my weight. I developed a good sense of who everyone was, and could tell how tough my weight was. I would go down the chart, and think, "He's good. He sucks. He's okay. He's really good; if I make it to the semis, I'll probably have him. He's okay..." After a few years, I found myself going down charts and thinking, "He sucks. He sucks. He sucks. He sucks..." At a certain point, I realized: "These guys don't all suck. I think I've gotten good." Most people start off with a fixed frame of reference. The people who become sufficiently good at something tend to grow beyond it. "Garbage" is a pejorative term. It's like "lard-ass". Now, you can define your terms however you like, but if you call someone "lard-ass" and don't expect him to be offended, you're pretty foolish. Saying, "Well, look, it's not my fault... here's what the term means, and here's how it applies to you" is either disingenuous or clueless. Likewise, the average middle school wrestler is average. If you want to say "garbage" covers that, you can, but I don't think it's a good idea. The gap between the best middle school wrestlers and the average ones is indeed large. As we get better at the sport, that gap will inevitably get larger. That's not a good reason to term the average ones (or even the beginners) "garbage". Likewise, the gap between good college wrestlers and the best middle school wrestlers is large... and should be, else what have the college wrestlers been doing with their time? That's not a good reason to term the best middle school wrestlers "garbage" either. If a good coach takes an average wrestler and works with him for awhile, he becomes a good wrestler. How do you describe this? "Well, you were garbage before, but now you're not?" Again, you can define your terms however you like, but not all definitions are equally useful. Talking like this isn't productive. Regarding most wrestlers at any given level with scorn is, in my view, stupid... and that's what this amounts to.
  5. It's a process. Kids start off bad, and get better. By middle school, of course there are no good wrestlers. Just people who think optimization for early success counts as "good". Or that you know who the "real talent" is. In fact, real talent tends to get crowded out by early specialists, who tend to wind up seriously damaged in one way or another. So yeah, I applaud "mediocre" as a stage between "terrible" and "good", so long as you don't spend unnecessary time there.
  6. This is like having a three-year-old come show you their crayon drawing, and going, "Jesus, this is terrible!" Yeah, no kidding. Congratulations for noticing, you clever art critic, you.
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    Snyder vs Gable and Cassar and White

    Besik Kudukhov, Mavlet Batirov, Valentin Jordanov, Rick Sanders, Zeke Jones... yeah, I can pretty safely say I respect these guys a lot more than most wrestlers, and I respect most wrestlers more than most grown men. Kind of hard to read this question without laughing, though.
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    What’s a takedown?

    So: I hit a head-inside single. You sprawl. I post, knee-slide, and pop you up. Upside-down, and fully off the mat, you lock around my waist. I have both legs on the mat, from the knees down, and one hand posted. That's three contact points with the floor, and your hands are locked from behind. Takedown?
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    Angle’s brother??

    Yes, that's who it was, or yes, it was shameful? Criticizing the person in the video: solid. Attaching a name to it that you're not sure of: questionable. Associating it with the brother of the person who might have done it: really?
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    Cael's Complete Match Record

    Just to clarify: we were supposed to wrestle in a consolation match at the 2000 Olympic trials. He scratched. Now, if you're guessing, "He fled in terror," I'm sure you're right, but there wasn't actually a match.
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    What’s a takedown?

    It's easy to give a conceptual definition of control. It's not so easy to give a definition of control such that any two people can apply it to an arbitrary situation in wrestling and arrive at the same result. I think that isn't so hard (though whether it's a good idea is a different question). Take a photograph. If the wrestlers stayed in exactly that position for, say, 20 seconds, would it be control?
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    Snyder vs Gable and Cassar and White

    In the United States, 4.3% of the male population from 20-29 years old weighs under 130. There are 23.25 million men in the U.S. in that age range. That's about a million people 130 and under. Interpolating to 1.94% at 125, I think your son's off by about 450,000 potential wrestlers. Anyway, I presently have a very good senior whose major problem as a recruit has been that he walks around at 116. Definitely not the first time I've had this problem, so I'm not much inclined to agree.
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    Should I quit?

    Get back to enjoying the sport. Everything else depends on that. In theory, you run, lift, cut weight, and all that in order to win. But winning is predicated on actually wrestling. If you quit, the game ends. It would be a shame if you quit, because you basically like it. Quit doing all the other stuff (particularly cutting weight), and wrestle. The sport hasn't changed, and you haven't in any fundamental way, either, so you can probably get back to enjoying it. Then start building. When your head is in the right place, you want to win. So when you lose, start fixing things. If you lose in a particular position, study it and practice there. If you lose because you're not strong enough, add some strength training. If you find you're not in good enough shape, do more conditioning. Maybe this eventually leads you back to running in the morning, and stuff like that... but if it does, it will be because you chose to do that, in order to solve your own problems. That makes an enormous difference in how you feel about things. Here's the hard part about all this: it means taking over your own life. Right now, you're doing things because you don't want to disappoint your dad, or your teammates. You're doing what your coach and other people tell you to do. That's not a bad way for a child to live, but it's not compatible with being an adult... and by high school, you need to start making that transition. This may cause some conflict with the adults who care about you, and who are accustomed to making decisions for you. If so, however, that conflict is now inevitable. Quitting the sport will cause conflict also. Sucking it up and continuing to be miserable just postpones it (briefly, in all likelihood), and makes it worse when it comes. Making a positive plan and moving ahead with it will probably produce the best outcome all the way around. Burnout isn't permanent, and if you ever loved wrestling, some part of you still does. Change the details of your life until things work for you. Be bold about it. Have a good life, and go pin as many people as you can.
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