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  1. On 2/21/2021 at 9:31 PM, Jaroslav Hasek said:

    different events have different levels of production. also different entities responsible for the production. if we are just taking the feed from a third party and retransmitting then the best we can do is let our third party contact know and hope they relay the message for us.

    for the SDSU events, Flo is responsible for production we we have a direct line to the folks working the event, and the people in Brookings are awesome people who pour their hearts into the program. for instances like this, hitting up customer service is your best bet. even if you get a hold of someone like myself that also works at Flo, I'm just going to relay the message through our customer support channels. this year a big program has been getting enough bodies at events. the pandemic makes every thing that much more difficult. 

    appreciate the feedback and trying to make the streams better. sometimes (most times) it's not a matter of not know how to do something it's having the resources and manpower to do it. sometimes tho there's nothing you can do, no matter how much I wish we could. we'll keep working on it tho.

    Thank you and I appreciate the response.

  2. 9 hours ago, Boompa said:

    Explain California then.  Sure they have some standouts but have millions more than PA, OH and NJ combined and would get trounced by an all star team from those 3 states.

    Keep in mind, outside of Pittsburgh and Philly...aside from the mountains, there is little difference between PA and Iowa and it is suburbs and rural areas that produce 99% of the state's talent.

    Any serious offseason tournament in PA is loaded with NJ teams.

    Good point.  I think CA could hold their own in a dual meet tournament.  If there were such a weighted average ranking, here is how I would rank the states by quality output of HS wrestlers...


    1.  PA

    2.  OH

    3.  NJ

    4.  IL

    5.  CA

    6.  Tie...MN, MI, IA, OK, MO (probably couple others could go in here but who's to say)

  3. 15 minutes ago, Mphillips said:

    Never seen it work that way every time.  The broadcasts without scores and announcers must make you really crazy.

    Funny.   it's not impossible to film from higher up and still be connected for mat score.  Mat 1 Utah Valley St vs SDSU, guy filming zooms in and wrestling is close up.  Looks fine and he is positioned well.  Mat 2 NDSU V Air force match is zoomed out as mentioned above.  Use the zoom and position yourself.  

  4. I am making a complaint on this forum in hopes some flo guy follows this message board and makes a change.  The reason for my complaint is that I have contacted them on three previous occasions without success so I will try this strategy.  My complaint is watching matches/dual meets when the camera is zoomed so far out it feels like you are in the nose bleed section.  From my experience, it is best to film from a bit higher up (so people don't walk or stand in the way) and then zoom in and leave a foot or two above and below the action.   Not rocket science.

    Today, the NDSU v Air Force dual the camera is on the side of the mat (people walking in front, ref in the way, etc.) and I can actually see the top of the arena.  Good grief, the arena is empty so why are you at mat side zoomed out?

    For the most part I am a Flo supporter (at the moment the benefits I receive are more valuable than the money I pay) so I am not bashing them...I just want them to improve the product so I (we) can enjoy the matches.  I hope they read this.    

  5. 5 hours ago, Avashadt said:

    "Short time." There are only a few seconds left in the match and you either 1) are down by 1 and you need to hurry up and score or 2) are up by one or two and you need to stall/not do anything stupid.

    "Short Time!" When on your back late in the match with no oxygen as the guys squeezes you in head and arm.  Except there is 28 seconds on the clock.  

  6. Similar to soccer, usually people who like it played it and understand the intricacies of the strategies, tactics, techniques and plays.  Many people in America don't appreciate this unless they grew up with it or had kids who played.  I have wrestled and coached all styles and appreciate the training, techniques, strategies, etc. to be successful.  Similar to Soccer, oftentimes GR gets a bad wrap because people don't really know what the participants are trying to do.  Honestly, I have watched many GR matches and wondered the same thing.  For instance, I will watch a guy pummel like heck to get an under hook but immediately pulls it out when the other wrestler locks in an over hook.  This is stalling.  If I work to get an under hook, I should have a purpose for that and not be afraid when the other guy engages.  I see this a lot of this in the American style today.  Guys who have not trained enough or know enough in the body lock position and therefore rely totally on a pummel match (cautions/push outs) to win a match.  This is boring but it shouldn't be allowed by astute officials.  However, most officials don't recognize this as passivity and don't call it.  I could probably write a book on this topic but just wanted to provide perspective.



  7. 56 minutes ago, AKHUNTER said:

    His name is Greg "mutt" Haugen. 3 time light weight champion............ first person to beat Hector "macho" Camacho (Camacho was like 43-0 at the time.). Beat Vinnie Pazienza(sp). Knocked Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini out.  Boxed, and lost, to Cezar Chavez in Mexico city before about 105,000 people........... NOBODY was gonna beat Chavez in Mexico city........... not and live anyway.

    Greg Haugen is one tough dude and great fighter.

  8. On 5/4/2020 at 2:34 PM, NJDan said:

    I always thought the wrestlers were the best conditioned athletes exor, maybe, middle-distance runners. But the other day I happened to see on YouTube a fight between Marvin Hagler and Tommy Hearns. Wrestlers go 6 or 7 minutes. These guys went for 36 minutes in 12 rounds. And they were punching each other in the face a lot. Of course, boxers are paid millions, adding to their incentive. So do y'all think wrestlers are as fit as they are?


    The last paragraph of this article speaks a bit to my background (I only share this to provide credibility to my comment).  I grew up doing both and my freshman/redshirt year at NDSU I won the ND Golden Gloves tournament.   Then lost in the finals of what is known as the Upper Midwest GG Boxing Championships.  Then went back to wrestling.  I was the transition athlete (did both) in the family as three older brothers all boxed and me and my two younger brothers took to wrestling. 

    Wrestling training and competing is more demanding and tiring than boxing.  As you all know, if you train appropriately and get into top shape, the training and competing become much easier.

    Boxing you stand more straight up keeping your feet underneath you and stay REAL loose.  Boxing training consisted of running but no weight training (you didn't need it to punch hard), and a lot of shadow boxing, sparring, and rope skipping.  Amateur's were 3, 3 minute rounds and were not as tiring as wrestling.  If your good, you don't take punches flush and you go with everything and shots glance off you.   As you compete against better fighters it is inevitable you will take one square in the nose or the chin (this is rare for good fighters).  However, if your not in shape, too muscle bound, or to tight, you can wear yourself out quickly and can get yourself hurt.

    In summary, the two sports are just different and each has their unique challenges in training and competing.

  9. On 4/15/2020 at 6:36 AM, Tofurky said:

    Why do most wrestling fans in the United States cling so tightly to our singular scholastic/collegiate style of wrestling? This style isn't wrestled anywhere else on earth, is strictly tied to educational institutions (if you want to compete in it, you have to be registered in school at any level), and has zero competitive option beyond college. Given that many of the board members here can see the obvious danger of what a shaky economic market due to a pandemic is foreshadowing for non-revenue collegiate sports, why are we as a sports community not looking for more suitable options for the longevity of wrestling in this country?

    My question is...what scoring rules in Freestyle would you like to see implemented in Folk?  The reason I ask is because the NCAA Rules Committee is constantly adapting rules to make the sport better.  Sometimes those rules are very minor but sometimes they make a big difference.  "Hands to the face" penalty first offense lasted one year, and it was changed as too draconian.  Scoring and allowing pinning out of bounds has been a good rule change.   

    There are some Freestyle rules I would like to see in Folkstyle but there are many rules I would not want.  I would like to see a reward for feet to back technique.  Think Mark Hall vs Michael Kemmerer first match.  Hall jacks up MK with double underhooks and throws MK to his back and MK comes out the back and scores TD so 2 MK and 0 MH.  Maybe this could have been 2-2 or 3-2?  The excitement of Hall taking the risk on the throw hurt him.  What's the lesson?  Don't take those kind of risks, or only in desperation.  The moment you add scoring for feet to back, you will see better technique being developed in wrestling rooms across the country (just watch the Russian Nationals highlight film).

    However, there are many things about Free I would not like:  

    *  3 Officials...ridiculous

    *  Par Terre

    *  Being under the umbrella of UWW rule changes.  Would you rather be under the protection of The Bill of Rights or under the whims of the UN?

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