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Return of Aztec

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  1. Places 7 thru 10 are determined by how many classification points they earned during the tournament. Win by fall, default, DQ — 5 classification points Win by technical superiority (10 pts / 8 in greco) — 4 Win — 3 Lose, but score points in the effort — 1 Ties are broken by: - The most victories by “Fall” - The most match won by superiority - The most technical points scored - The fewest technical points given - The lowest seeds number (if applicable) - The lowest draw number
  2. From Article 33 of the UWW Rules (page 26): 1st — 25 2nd — 20 3rd-3rd — 15 5th-5th — 10 7th — 8 8th — 6 9th — 4 10th — 2 In the case of a tie, it's most first places, then most second places, etc.
  3. Same. I wanted Taylor but I"m truly happy for Yazdani and his fans.
  4. It's a joy to watch these guys wrestle each other. I wanted Taylor to win again, but incredible match and great performance by Yazdani.
  5. I don't think it's that uncommon. In the NFL, pretty sure the clock we see on the TV graphic is not the official time. In soccer, the time on the TV graphic is not official. Only the referee has the official time. And they don't even share it with anyone until they blow the whistle.
  6. It's a long article with many points, but the main idea as far as I can tell is that is that the risk of COVD skews very old regardless of vaccination status, so issues such as vaccination, masking, social distancing, and boosters should take into account the different risk to different demographics and not be one-size-fits-all.
  7. Yes. What did I get wrong? From the article: "According to that data, an unvaccinated 10-year-old, who may look like the very picture of COVID vulnerability heading into the school year, faces a lower mortality risk than a vaccinated 25-year-old, whom we might today regard as close to safe as can be. In England, the incidence of hospitalization among unvaccinated kids was lower than that of those vaccinated aged 18 to 29, and in recent weeks, the hospitalization rate among kids ages 5 to 14 has been only about one per 100,000." My claim was that unvaccinated kids have better COVID outcomes than vaccinated adults. This statement from the article supports that.
  8. No one who didn't stress about someone without a flu shot being around their kid in 2018 should stress about someone without the COVID vaccine being around their kid in 2021. Unvaccinated kids have better COVID outcomes than vaccinated adults. [Source: nymag.com] "Long COVID" in kids is a very small risk. [Source: BBC] All vaccines are not created equal. The polio vaccine I got when I was a kid means I have a 0% chance of getting polio my entire lifetime. The COVID vaccine I got earlier this year means I can still get COVID, still transmit COVID, but supposedly means I will have a better outcome if I do get it. Oh, and it might have an expiration date and I'll need a booster. And the booster will mean what? If it means as much as the original vaccine, it won't mean much. In my opinion, the precautions taken to prevent COVID are extraordinarily out of proportion with the risk of COVID. A buddy of mine moved to Sweden in early 2020 before COVID hit. Had I known then what was coming, I might have stowed away in his suitcase. COVID is real in Sweden too, but life is normal.
  9. I disagree. I think the bigger shock was that Karelin lost. Gardner was World Champion the following year and took Bronze in 2004. If someone was going to beat him, it's not that surprising that it would be the guy who was World Champion the next year too and then repeated as a Olympic medalist. Gardner beating Karelin was certainly his burst onto the scene, but his success following Gold in Sydney makes it less of a shock to me that Gardner was the one who did it.
  10. I love J'den but acknowledge that he walks a fine line feeling wronged. It could fuel him to higher heights. Perhaps he'll be a better wrestler in 2024 because of this episode. Who knows? Or, it could distract him and he'll be worse off. Time will tell.
  11. I am a proud fan-boy of J'den Cox. He came and did a camp for us and I could not have been more impressed. I love the chip on his shoulder and his dissatisfaction. I believe it fuels him in a positive way. Can't wait to watch him at Worlds and through 2024.
  12. Coach's Syllabus for Greco Roman Wrestling by Mike Houck (YouTube video) I watched this video and thought I'd give a review. It's fantastic. Any coach who doesn't currently have the confidence to coach greco should come away from this video feeling like they have a lot of tools to start incorporating greco into their programs. The video covers 15 basic greco skills: 1. Stance 2. Motion 3. Contact 4. The Tie-up 5. Pummelling 6. Off-balancing 7. Penetration Step 8. Common Body attacks 9. Centering 10 Common Finishes 11. The Bridge 12. The Back Arch 13. The Back Step 14. Hip Pop 15. Grips The first comment on the video has each skill time-stamped if you want to quickly go to that section of the video. What made this video particularly helpful is that each skill is demonstrated clearly, then several examples of each skill are shown as they happen in a real match. It was really helpful to have such good examples of the techniques from real matches. The video also does a good job showing progressions for skills such the bridge and the back arch, which are difficult skills for many beginners. Even though the video is obviously old, the skills seem timeless. It doesn't feel dated at all to me. If there have been rule changes in the sport since then that would make anything he said obsolete, someone brighter than myself will have to fill us in. As it is, this video gets a big thumbs up from me.
  13. Additional resources. Coach's Syllabus for Greco-Roman Wrestling - Throws by Mike Houck (YouTube video) Coach's Syllabus for Greco-Roman Wrestling - Basic Par Terre by Mike Houck (YouTube video) Effective Greco Roman Wrestling by Pat Smith ($77 at Fanatic Wrestling)
  14. Inspired by another thread, I let my finger do the googling and these are the first few resources I discovered that looked interesting. If anyone has experience with these or knows other resources to learn how to coach greco, maybe I won't be the only one who would appreciate thoughts from the folks who have way more experience with greco than I do. The Greco Blueprint by Adam Wheeler Coach's Syllabus for Greco Roman Wrestling - 15 Basic Skills by Mike Houck (YouTube video) USA Wrestling Core Curriculum: Olympic Styles Level 1 and Greco Roman Level 2
  15. Serious question. For those coaches who have no understanding of greco but would like to gain it and incorporate it into their programs, what do you recommend? Is there a particular greco technique library or training manual you recommend so coaches raised on a steady diet of folk/free feel confident they can coach it? I think that is part of the problem. The best clubs in my area (that I see inside the room) spend precious little time on greco. Typically it makes up a small portion of a few practices for a small number of youth/HS athletes who will be competing in greco state. They are great free/folk coaches, but not greco coaches. Their kids do well because they are excellent folk/free wrestlers who can adapt well enough to the competition level, but that's probably not saying much. At least that's my sense.
  16. It's not a perfect analogy, but I view it similar to American football where 3 field goals beats 1 touchdown. The goal is to score touchdowns, not field goals. It's rare that a team will win when they score only field goals, but it happens occasionally. While earning a step out point demonstrates less control or dominance than a takedown, they are earned points. To earn a step out point, you have to control your opponent. For the most part in that match, I felt like Yazdani controlled the match. Overall, I felt like he controlled the ties, controlled the pace, and frustrated Taylor. Though he didn't get a takedown, the way I see it a lot had to go right for him to be in a position to win with only step outs. As a wrestling fan, I want to see takedowns, exposures, and pins just like as a football fan I want to see touchdowns, but it's extraordinarily competitive at the top of every sport and athletes and teams have to score when and where they can. Sometimes that's only step outs and field goals. And if their defense is good enough, sometimes that's enough to win. If it was very common for people to win with just step outs, it would get tiring and it might feel like guys were trying to "cheat the system" to win with just step outs. I didn't feel like Yazdani was doing that. I felt like he was trying to control the match and score when he could. I thought it was a smart strategy for him to employ against Taylor. For much of the match, he succeeded. But ultimately not enough of it. I know I don't watch as much wrestling as a lot of folks here, but I guess I don't see it happen enough that I think it's a problem to win with just step outs even when the opponent scores a takedown. It's just something that happens sometimes.
  17. With criteria in favor of a TD, it takes 3 step outs to beat 1 TD. I think this is the right ratio. Decreasing a step out to .5 would mean it takes 5 step outs to beat 1 TD. I think this is too much. It would also lead to more step outs (wrestlers would give them up more since it would cost them less). increasing a TD to 3 points would mean it takes 4 step outs to win, but I think this is too much. This would allow wrestlers with a lead to pack it in earlier when they have a lead. Plus, as others have noted, it would have a ripple effect of necessitating the rethinking of other scoring. Plus, I like yelling "TWOOOOOO!!" Combined, this is a very large solution to fix a very small problem (the rare occasion when 3 step outs beating 1 TD feels wrong). Had Taylor not scored that late TD, Yazdani's gold medal would have felt satisfying to me.
  18. I was in the stands watching when Cassar beat Gable. I remember thinking "Gable! Keep wrestling! You just need to escape!" while he kneeled there with his head down and the clock ticking away. In one of the post match interviews after his win yesterday, he looked at the camera and said something like "that's why you always wrestle the entire match" or something like that. A true champion learns from mistakes and it's clear he learned the lesson well.
  19. Serious question. The penalty to Russia was totally an ineffectual slap on the wrist. But aren't we glad their wrestlers are here because it validates the success of the US is having? If Russia received a hard ban this Olympics and their wrestlers weren't here, this would be a 1984 situation where people would always say "yeah, but Russia wasn't there." Regardless of how Snyder and Hildebrandt finish up, Russia being here makes the success of this US team that much more impressive. I feel torn because the whole "ROC" thing is a joke, the penalty Russia received was toothless, and it makes a mockery of the people that do things the right way. I'm completely opposed to doping in sports and want the people that dope to get caught and punished. But I can't lie and pretend like I'd feel as good about the US success in Tokyo if Russia wasn't there too.
  20. I think the British guys are great, despite the fact that it sounds like they are watching wrestling for the first time these Olympics. It's comedic listening to them. I think they are actually good commentators. But it sounds like they were told they were covering wrestling 1 day before the Olympics started and have a bunch of Wikipedia tabs open in a browser trying to keep up. If I took a drink every time they say "ancient" I'd be sloshed.
  21. I noticed the same thing. Same with the flags. They really should raise silver above bronze in these situations.
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