Mr. Poopy butthole

Peep harder! I think we have different understandings of "steadily". That's fine. We both agree he improved, just see differently as to the extent of his improvement. I don't have the motivation to whip out the ole' web scraper, but I feel confident that if you compared his match points and takedown #'s, his senior year would show a significant increase compared to prior years. Afterall, his bonus % nearly doubled between his junior and senior year. That is a pretty significant jump to me. If you think that is a "steady" increase, well... we don't have much more to talk about

Is he the best ever right now? Or will he be if he wins title #4? Don't wan't to give a crook any more attention until he pays his debts

Some "banned" substances are worse than others, imo. I don't really care for testing for things like cocaine or marijuana. It's well-established performance enhancing compounds that really make me feel icky.

I disagree. Peep the wrestlestat. Pletcher had a pretty decent winning % as a sophomore but his bonus rate was a measly 11%. He did experience a slump his Junior year as you said but in his senior year, I felt like I was watching a different wrestler, executing moves I hadn't seen him try before. This is evidenced by his record: 96% win rate with nearly 60% bonus. This may have been higher if NCAAs happened. Finally, pre-senior year, I never would have picked Pletcher over Nick Lee

JO technically didn't make it to the Olympics, unfortunately, but he was selected as the rep after previously serving a suspension

Right. That's what I thought I remembered. MSU had Berger listed as one of Kaleb's marquee wins. I was wondering if I missed a result

I know Young had that razor thin match against Berger, in the dual I think, but I don't remember Kaleb ever scoring a win. When did this happen?

I'm genuinely confused. What are you saying?

That's a good Dake impersonation

Who hurt you?

Furthermore, how much better did Megaludis, Cenzo, or Gullibon get with each passing year? Starocci was already elite last year. He'll no doubt improve, but whether he turns into a destroyer of worlds remains to be seen. It's not a guarantee that he'll outstrip everyone next year. Still, he's my pick to win. Begrudgingly.

"They aren't winning anything besides 125, if that. They better be hoping and praying Nick Suriano doesn’t come back this year." Those were your words

This is a strange thread and a strange argument in general. I think some of the anti-iowa posts are grasping at straws and employing a bit too much hyperbole but that is par for the course I guess. As a monthly contributor to the HWC, I do think it is odd that the hawks have had such a comparatively light presence on the freestyle scene. I know there are reasons for this (Lee's terrible streak of injuries, for one), and I'm sure there is much we'll never know for sure (why didn't Lugo participate?), But it's odd. If this continues next summer I'll be much more concerned

Not sure what to think of the new Suriano Flo film. I don't feel like we learned much of anything new, other than that he travelled to a lot more places to train than just NYC and Arizona. He said there is a chance he doesn't wrestle in college but that the NIL deals make it very interesting. I guess I shouldn't be disappointed. It's not like we could have expected him to say where he was going. Earlier in the film he did say he was "blessed" to have met Perry. I suppose that may suggest he stays at Arizona. Or maybe wrestle 2nd semester somewhere. Who knows. Calling this a "film" feels a bit of a stretch. Still, for 15 minutes it was entertaining and it was nice to hear Suriano talk about his journey. I really felt for him when he talked about the fallout from Olympic trials. Said he was in a place "beyond dark". Gave me chills

I don't think it was Spencer's, his parent's or the Iowa coaches' plan to have his freestyle participation be so limited up to this point. Freshman year: same year that he had ACL surgery. Appeared to be healthy enough during NCAA's so this is likely the best candidate for being the year that he got "held out" of freestyle competition. Sophomore year: we now know that he tore his other ACL during the finals match against Jack Mueller so makes sense why he didn't appear at world team trials that year. Junior year: COVID. Everything cancelled. This past year: ACL tear during big tens. Are people really trying to argue that, if he had not gone to NCAA's, that his knee would have _magically healed_ enough to be good to go by Olympic trials? If so, I have some property I'd like to sell you. Taking all of the above into account, I really don't see how the argument that Spencer's wrestling is "going nowhere" has any merit.