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    Force118 got a reaction from dman115 in Marinelli does not AA   
    A lot of revisionist history and whataboutisms going on in this thread
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    Force118 reacted to JasonBryant in Hodge Voting and Timing   
    Just for the sake of argument, let's apply a little spin and some T-I-C-ness and maybe some left-field faux logic to the subject, because we all know there are lies, damn lies and statistics. 

    1. Record: Both undefeated. Push. Simple enough. 
    2. Pins: a 5-4 margin in a season with a much smaller pool of matches, make it a tough distinction. Gable also had one AA heavy (Hillger) not wrestle him and another ranked heavy default in one second rather than compete in the B1G semis (Lance), who he teched earlier in the year. 
    3. I like applying percentage of opponents (like the pin percentage), but that also seems to cancel out #5. If Gable had better competition, of course Lee SHOULD be more dominant in categories 2 and 3.
    4. Another way to look at this: Gable's lost to one guy in his career, twice, an eventual NCAA champion in the Big Ten finals and the NCAA semis. Lee's lost five times to four different wrestlers - of them, one was an NCAA champion and the other four never made an NCAA final. So another thing to MAYBE consider is are we looking at credentials wrong? Ok, we've got titles, Spencer also has one extra year on Gable, so he's got that added chance for another accolade - this is also why I personally never liked the category because it dings underclassmen. 
    5. Hard to argue this point, although Lee didn't wrestle as many backups as Steveson did. 
    6. Lee's never been falsely accused of a crime. Is that still playing in his favor? We all know ol' Royce Alger is the Sheriff around those parts ... 
    7. Heart. What is this, Captain freaking planet, but seriously, I think wind and water might be better categories. 
     
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    Force118 reacted to Le duke in Hodge Voting and Timing   
    I don't see how it could be Lee over Steveson. Gable wrestled FAR better competition. It's harder to dominate better competition, but he did just that.
    Truth be told, most weight classes had better competition that 125. Just using this as example, but 184 had multiple world winners and medalists in it. And despite Brooks being in the running, I wouldn't put him at anywhere near the same level as Gable because he didn't come close to dominating like Gable did, against opponents who also dominate. As far as I know, Gable gave up ONE takedown all year.
     
     
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    Force118 got a reaction from Jaysus in The real question now about DeSanto / Iowa   
    Can’t think of anything more deserving of an automatic disqualification and loss of team points than threatening to kill a female media official at the NCAA tournament. 
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    Force118 got a reaction from Alwayswrestling in Time for a Light Heavyweight Class?   
    No. Bring back 118.
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    Force118 got a reaction from Noodler in Tom Brands: "Spencer will be a 2 time consecutive Hodge winner"   
    According to Flo, Rivera is in the running.
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    Force118 got a reaction from Yellow_Medal in Time for a Light Heavyweight Class?   
    If only we had historical precedent. Looked stacked in 1998.

     
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    Force118 got a reaction from Yellow_Medal in Time for a Light Heavyweight Class?   
    No. Bring back 118.
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    Force118 got a reaction from simple in Time for a Light Heavyweight Class?   
    No. Bring back 118.
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    Force118 got a reaction from simple in Tom Brands: "Spencer will be a 2 time consecutive Hodge winner"   
    According to Flo, Rivera is in the running.
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    Force118 got a reaction from TBar1977 in Tom Brands: "Spencer will be a 2 time consecutive Hodge winner"   
    According to Flo, Rivera is in the running.
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    Force118 got a reaction from Antitroll2828 in Tom Brands: "Spencer will be a 2 time consecutive Hodge winner"   
    According to Flo, Rivera is in the running.
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    Force118 got a reaction from WresFan89 in Tom Brands: "Spencer will be a 2 time consecutive Hodge winner"   
    According to Flo, Rivera is in the running.
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    Force118 got a reaction from ShakaAloha in Time for a Light Heavyweight Class?   
    Fair enough.
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    Force118 got a reaction from AHamilton in Tom Brands: "Spencer will be a 2 time consecutive Hodge winner"   
    According to Flo, Rivera is in the running.
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    Force118 got a reaction from uncle bernard in Tom Brands: "Spencer will be a 2 time consecutive Hodge winner"   
    According to Flo, Rivera is in the running.
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    Force118 reacted to ShakaAloha in Time for a Light Heavyweight Class?   
    I see what you're saying, but it probably makes little sense to have a 118 lbs. division considering than the field at 125 was already pretty weak this year.  Furthermore, when the lowest Olympic weight is 57 kg (125.4 lbs.) we should keep the lowest NCAA weight around there as well.
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    Force118 got a reaction from Mphillips in Did Brands go overboard in punishing Desanto?   
    Without knowing what exactly the offense was, it’s hard to know if Iowa “went overboard.” 
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    Force118 reacted to headshuck in Time for a Light Heavyweight Class?   
    The Sanders Amendment
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    Force118 got a reaction from Ogalthorpe Haywood in Time for a Light Heavyweight Class?   
    No. Bring back 118.
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    Force118 reacted to flyingcement in Time for a Light Heavyweight Class?   
    This is more like it.  We have great 103-112 high schoolers in this country who can't get up to 125.  Id rather see Bobby Weavers of the world get to shine in NCAA
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    Force118 got a reaction from flyingcement in Time for a Light Heavyweight Class?   
    No. Bring back 118.
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    Force118 reacted to TFBJR in Consider not highlighting aberrant behvior   
    I'm speaking only in generalities and make no claim to understand any details of issues that arose this weekend.
    I'm generally not one to tiptoe.  PED abuse and general poor deportment should be called out.  There's probably a line wrt intent.
    My wife is a Special Education teacher.  The circumstances she describes that some kids have to live with, through no fault of their own, are heartbreaking.  
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    Force118 got a reaction from NJDan in Did Brands go overboard in punishing Desanto?   
    Without knowing what exactly the offense was, it’s hard to know if Iowa “went overboard.” 
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    Force118 got a reaction from wamba in Does Marinelli returning mean no Griffith for Iowa?   
    He’s already a better wrestler than anyone above 133 on an Iowa team over the last decade—why would he want to go there and get worse? Sleeper pick—Oregon State with the new coaching staff and better middleweight coach.
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