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  1. Going to disagree on Tomasello "significantly outperforming" Spencer Lee in freestyle. The last time Spencer wrestled freestyle, he beat Tomasello 8-2 in the finals of the 2019 Senior Nationals. Tomasello is 7-7 on the Senior Circuit since that match (including going 0-3 in Poland in June). His best results came this past month at the WTT, where he beat Colon, Suriano, and DeShazer but lost in two straight matches to Fix. He also lost 3-2 to Arujau at the Olympic Trials (whom Spencer beat 14-4 at Senior Nationals). He has certainly competed more in freestyle than Spencer Lee, but unless the mere fact of competing more means he has "significantly outperformed him" in no way has he outperformed Lee in freestyle. (Head to Head Loss, 0 Senior National Titles to Lee's 1)
  2. Yep. I briefly considered transferring to HLS after my 1L year but decided against it as I wasn't going to get anything more out of going there than I was out of where I already was. Ended up spending my 2L summer at one of the top firms in DC and have two federal clerkships lined up after graduation, one at the District level and one at the Circuit level. I don't have the grades to be competitive for a SCOTUS clerkship and going to HLS wasn't going to magically change that. On the flip side, a section mate of mine did transfer to HLS which made zero sense to me. They actually ended up at a worse firm than they could have obtained had they just stayed and were basically starting from scratch with making connections with professors for clerkship recommendations. Another friend of mine went from a much lower ranked law school to HLS, but it made sense in that situation since that individual wanted to work in London due to their spouse working in Europe. They weren't going to get an offer from a London firm from their prior school.
  3. However, where you go to law school matters A LOT in terms of likely job outcomes. The top law firms mostly will only recruit out of the top law schools, and even when they hire someone from a lower ranked state school, that student is usually at or near the top of their class. Same applies for Article III clerkships. Many judges will hire students in the top 10% at a T-13, but on the average you probably need to be one of the top 5 students overall in your class to land one of these clerkships from a lower ranked school (although not always the case). For instance, UF has only had one graduate ever clerk for a Supreme Court justice, whereas Harvard, Yale, and Stanford have multiple graduates clerking on SCOTUS every term with Chicago and UVA usually having at least one every term.
  4. Educate yourself and go to top-law-schools.com or any other law admissions website. Law school admissions is a numbers game, plain and simple.
  5. Dude, you are 100% wrong. I have multiple friends currently at HLS who went to the University of Alabama. HLS like every other law school cares most about undergrad GPA and LSAT. Heck, Harvard isn't even the best law school. Yale is the best, and it is probably the only law school where undergraduate school actually matters and the only reason it matters is because of how the admission's committee works there. After the admission's office makes an initial determination about a candidate's competitiveness, they give the applications to a panel of faculty members who make their own recommendations. Sometimes, those faculty members have views that only students from elite undergrads should get into Yale. But Yale is such an anomaly in the law school world, that if you even make it to the faculty portion of the committee, chances are you are getting into Harvard or Stanford and getting a large scholarship to another T-13.
  6. As someone currently at a T-13 law school, I say with full confidence that where you went to undergrad matters very little and only on the margins for law school admissions. The poster above who said it is almost entirely based on LSAT and undergrad GPA is correct. LSAT and undergrad GPA accounts for nearly 1/5 of what goes into a law school's U.S. News and World Report ranking. Since this is the most easily manipulated stat in the methodology that U.S. News and World report uses, admissions committees care most about getting high undergrad GPA medians and LSAT scores to boost their law school rankings. It is for this reason that the University of Florida has risen nearly 30 spots in the law school rankings over the last 5 years as the school has made a concerted effort to raise their class profile by offering large scholarships to high LSAT and high undergrad GPA students. At my T-13 school, I have classmates from Ivy league and their equivalent undergrads, but the student body as a whole is primarily composed of individuals who went to far "less prestigious" state schools. Bottom line, Harvard Law and other top law schools are going to take a 3.9+ GPA, 172 LSAT from the University of Alabama over a 3.6, 168 LSAT from an Ivy League School. I say this as someone who went to a top undergrad and despite having a high LSAT score, struggled to get into the top law schools because my undergrad school deflates GPAs compared to most schools. On the other hand, top MBA programs care a lot more about your undergrad school (as well as your subsequent work experience) than they do about your undergrad GPA (although GMAT still applies). I got into every M7 B school that I applied to (Wharton, Booth, and Kellogg) despite a much lower GPA than those schools' medians.
  7. His 7th place finish in 2009 was as a true freshman. He bumped up to 133 in 2010 and finished 1-2, likely adjusting to the new weight. In 2011, he finished 4th at 133 as a junior, not a senior. As others have already pointed out he beat the likes of Tony Ramos, BJ Futtrell, and Tyler Graff that year. It is my understanding that he had a bad back injury that required surgery and as a result he redshirted in 2012. Finished round of 12 as a senior losing to Dardanes in OT. Had it not been for the back surgery, he likely would have been right there battling for a top 3 finish his senior year. All in all, his career is very similar to Mike Grey's who finished 6th twice, his freshman and senior seasons. I doubt you would be making the same comments if Campbell had hired Grey.
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