FS Junior Worlds - Team Race

[jmachinder 70]

Fila team race scoring can be a bit frustrating, but it is what it is and every team has the same chances to win.  

 

At last year's juniors, Iran won with 64 points, USA had 58 and Russia had 49.  These scores are higher than the top three teams at most Sr. Worlds, so it suggests that there isn't the same parity there worldwide.  At least not last year.  

 

Balance is really the key to doing well.  Having all 8 guys place is significantly more important than getting a gold instead of a bronze.  

 

USA probably isn't quite as balanced a team as they were last year so they will probably need help from the rest of the field to keep Iran and Russia under 50 points.  I could see USA winning a race where the championship team had less than 50 points, if the winner has more than 50 points, it would most likely be Russia or Iran.  

 

It's even tougher to handicap any of the weights at Jr. Worlds since there's so many new faces and wrestlers at this age can improve by leaps and bounds from their abilities the previous year.  

 

60KG is interesting with Sedeghi, McKenna and Rashidov all back.  

 

84KG will be fun to watch with Valencia and Goleij both being strong newcomers for USA and Iran

 

I think Spencer Lee and Pico should be considered favorites.   

[2td3nf 565]

Should be a fun tournament and a great team race this year.

[Housebuye 2,341]

I'm curious to see how Mark Hall does. He has so much potential.

[2td3nf 565]

Maybe I'm wrong, but looks like there is no live stream so far today for Jr World's Greco, although there is a live stream link on UWW's website. The link brings up the mats, but there's no video coverage. Hope this isn't the case for freestyle too.

 

Starting to get a bad feeling that Vegas won't have a live stream either. 

[hawktalk3 59]

Maybe I'm wrong, but looks like there is no live stream so far today for Jr World's Greco, although there is a live stream link on UWW's website. The link brings up the mats, but there's no video coverage. Hope this isn't the case for freestyle too.

 

Starting to get a bad feeling that Vegas won't have a live stream either. 

I am getting mats B and C to stream through this link: https://unitedworldwrestling.org/event/junior-world-championships

 

Mat A is the only one I am seeing as not streaming, and I thought I saw that the video crew got stuck somewhere, so that was the issue.

[Axe_Spartan 202]

I am getting mats B and C to stream through this link: https://unitedworldwrestling.org/event/junior-world-championships

 

Mat A is the only one I am seeing as not streaming, and I thought I saw that the video crew got stuck somewhere, so that was the issue.

 

http://livestream.com/unitedworldwrestling

 

All three mats.

[2td3nf 565]

Thanks hawk and axe. Now I got it.

 

You guys are the goods.

[mrh 4]

As far as the team race, in addition to IRI, RUS, and USA, AZE brought some talent:

55- Amiraslanov - 2x Cadet World Silver

60- Aliev - Jr World 3rd

66- Mammadov - Cadet World Champ last year

96- Gadzhiyev - Euro U23 Silver this year

120- Gamidov - 2012 Cadet World Silver, 2015 Euro Jr Champ

 

120 also seems loaded with the Iranian the likely favorite, and the RUS, AZE, POL, TUR, and GEO (greco background) all being accomplished. 

[2td3nf 565]

Interesting, of the 4 Jr Greco weight classes today, GEO has 3 finalists, IRI has 2, and RUS has 1.

 

USA nothing.

[2td3nf 565]

Just watched today's American matches archived on Flo.

 

One theme I thought I saw was the other countries come out of the gate hitting and executing moves. Looks like the Americans come out and "wait around" for the perfect setup and next thing you know they're teched.

 

Even the one American win today, Dalton Roberts was down 8-1 before he made an amazing comeback in the 2nd period. Then his next match he's teched in under a minute.

 

Not criticizing our guys, just talking as a disappointed USA fan here.

[jmachinder 70]

Indeed Azerbaijan will be in the hunt, just like with seniors.  

[Hubbard 426]

I have Krivstov taking 120.

 

Let's not forget that Coach Vitagliano (Quick Single) is there.  He should provide some cool info I'm sure.

Edited August 11, 2015 by Hubbard

[jmachinder 70]

Am I correct in that all four medalists from 60KG juniors last year are back?  

[Hubbard 426]

No, AZE is sending Hassanzadeh.

[Shiraz123 790]

Is Hassanzadeh a Iranian transplant? The name is Iranian. 

[2td3nf 565]

Boring 50kg final. Neither wrestler tried anything.

[Axe_Spartan 202]

Boring 50kg final. Neither wrestler tried anything.

 

Yes, that was horrible to watch.

[2td3nf 565]

Now, the 60kg final, that was a beautiful throw by the Russian at about 1:30 into the match. Just so quick, powerful, and confident. Best in the world stuff.

[Axe_Spartan 202]

Now, the 60kg final, that was a beautiful throw by the Russian at about 1:30 into the match. Just so quick, powerful, and confident. Best in the world stuff.

 

That will be a contender for move of the day, it was perfect. Who is this russian guy?

 

 

 

By the way, my stream stopped.

[2td3nf 565]

Wow, thought TUR almost pulled off the circus move at the end to win it at 74 against GEO.

[Hubbard 426]

Shiraz, it's a common name in AZE as well.  I assume it might be Azeri?

[2td3nf 565]

My stream stopped for the last (96kg) weight class. Missed all the 96kg medal matches.

 

This is a difficult and frustrating sport to follow. Some of the best wrestlers in the world weren't even considered to be covered at the Pan Am's. A major network decided to webcast only 1 of the 2 mats. Couldn't follow some of the world's best wrestlers in a pretty big event. Thought it was somewhat surprising given the media technology of 2015. 

 

Now this. 

[2td3nf 565]

How about Team GEO?

 

Eight weight classes and they win 4 Golds  1 Silver, and a 5th. What a tournament for them! Guessing they have some awesome Greco coaches on their staff.

[Karelin 7]

Georgian GR team indeed did a tremendous job this year, but the best GR wrestler of the tournament award, if there was one, should go to Murad Mammadov of Azerbaijan, who outscored his opponents 42-0 en route to his second World champion title.

[de4856 362]

I have to agree with 2td3nf, we're halfway through the competition, and so far we're not experiencing the kind of success I thought we would. I'm not sure what's going on? Are we waiting for the perfect situation before attempting a move? Is it that we are wrestling too timid ? Do we not have the right mind set ? Or are we in a situation where the other teams just came better prepared ? Hopefully our coaches and wrestlers can make the proper adjustments and we can start bringing home some medals in the remainder of this competition.