Flying-Tiger 611 Report post Posted August 16, 2015 (edited) The fact Spenser Lee isn't afraid to smile after winning a tournament tells me he has a lot more in common with Sanderson then the Brands brothers. If he goes to Iowa, first thing they'll do is beat that out of him and he'll end looking like the guy on the right even after a big win. Edited August 16, 2015 by Flying-Tiger 2 powershouse and Coach_J reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cangemi 202 Report post Posted August 16, 2015 All you talking weight in college , kids going into junior year. Up in the air how much he grows anywhere up to 141. Who knows 2 years and red shirt year. no idea next few years will tell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flying-Tiger 611 Report post Posted August 16, 2015 Agreed. DT wrestled 103 his first two years of high school. Granted, a different frame, but still, it goes to show how hard it is to predict when they are at that age. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeffr_ideal 216 Report post Posted August 16, 2015 (edited) The fact Spenser Lee isn't afraid to smile after winning a tournament tells me he has a lot more in common with Sanderson then the Brands brothers. If he goes to Iowa, first thing they'll do is beat that out of him and he'll end looking like the guy on the right even after a big win. Too funny and true. However, the smile is more indicative of a Buckeye, a la Tomasello. Edited August 16, 2015 by jeffr_ideal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTimeFan 857 Report post Posted August 16, 2015 Have any of the USA guys wrestled yet today (Sunday)? I don't see mat assignments tweeting from Flo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobDole 841 Report post Posted August 16, 2015 Pico is coming up in a few minutes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTimeFan 857 Report post Posted August 16, 2015 Thanks. Do you know what mat and how we can find out what's coming up? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTimeFan 857 Report post Posted August 16, 2015 Flo just tweeted Pico on deck Mat A. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gibbyhaynes 2 Report post Posted August 16, 2015 thanks for the heads up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jmachinder 64 Report post Posted August 16, 2015 Pico tech in the first. He looked ridiculously fast. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTimeFan 857 Report post Posted August 16, 2015 Pico wins 11-0 TF. Two observations, what do you all think? 1. Pico had more leg attacks in that match than I've seen in a long time. He's usually a heavy-hands, snapdown machine with some leg attacks as counter-offense. I thought he really upped his game. Or perhaps his opponent was weaker than I've seen him against. I am not sure which. 2. Pico looked skinny. As did Hall. As did Lee. Any chance the training camp was brutal and they overworked? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTimeFan 857 Report post Posted August 16, 2015 Valencia is on deck on mat B... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
infoman 4 Report post Posted August 16, 2015 Valencia now up on Mat B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
infoman 4 Report post Posted August 16, 2015 Valenica gets first period TF. Takedown to lace, then 3 more takedowns. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTimeFan 857 Report post Posted August 16, 2015 (edited) Valencia with the awesome first period 10-0 TF. He and bro have incredible shots and motion. It's really impressive especially to think that Zahid was 132 pounds not too long ago. He also looked skinny. Edited August 16, 2015 by BigTimeFan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Plasmodium 1,118 Report post Posted August 16, 2015 I am sure you are trolling me. Regardless I think it would be a good match with him and Fix with college rules. But I would easily take Lee. Lee had like a 5-1 takedown edge on Daton in their two most Freestyle matches. Lee is an absolute monster on top with his bar and tilts. Fix does seem to have a real good motor and he definitely has the size advantage, but I would still like Lee to win a college match. Not trolling. Fix wore him down both times in freestyle and I would expect that to happen in folk as well. 1 Cletus_Tucker reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTimeFan 857 Report post Posted August 16, 2015 Not trolling. Fix wore him down both times in freestyle and I would expect that to happen in folk as well. There was a lot more to the Fix-Lee match than just engine. Lee wrestled bad tactically. He needed to slow the action down and maintain his lead. The first match was understandable but the second match went down exactly as the first. Failing slowing down the action he needed to finish his shots. Lee himself said he stopped wrestling, and he didn't mean he stopped taking shots. He stopped finishing shots. That could have been his gas tank and if so he could have slowed down the action. Also, as mentioned before fix is a lot bigger and a lot more physically mature than Lee. Lee still has a baby face. Fix needs a shave. Lee is still only sixteen and had to petition into the Jr. Worlds. Even though Fix and Lee are the same year in HS (rising junior) Fix is older. All that said, I wouldn't put money down on a re-match either way. It's too close and they are both improving rapidly. Best thing for the USA is if they end up different weights. As for Fix's conqueror Micic, well, he's wrestling today. We will see how that goes. I'm rooting for him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTimeFan 857 Report post Posted August 16, 2015 Micic on Mat A now ... Flo did not tweet the start. Come on guys! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeffr_ideal 216 Report post Posted August 16, 2015 Micic is gassing hard Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTimeFan 857 Report post Posted August 16, 2015 (edited) What the #&@#%?!! Micic looked horribly gassed. He was easily out classing Kumar from India and then at about 4 minutes he just starts to lose it. So disappointing. Did these our overtrain? Also, come on Flo! You tweeted Micic up on Mat A half-way through the match. Edited August 16, 2015 by BigTimeFan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jmachinder 64 Report post Posted August 16, 2015 Micic up 8-2 at the break, loses 12-8. Wow. Was the cut too much for him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swing 32 Report post Posted August 16, 2015 M I C, c ya later. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cradle2grave 16 Report post Posted August 16, 2015 (edited) Pico up now on B Edited August 16, 2015 by Cradle2grave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tightwaist 355 Report post Posted August 16, 2015 Not trolling. Fix wore him down both times in freestyle and I would expect that to happen in folk as well. If that match happens in folk, I'll gladly take you up on a friendly paypal wager. In fact, I'll give you 5-1 odds. Fix wins, I pay you $ 100. Lee wins, you give me $ 20. Lee's best position in folk is on top. He took Fix down 5 times, and in folk would grind him for 2-3 minutes at a stretch. Cheap exposure points don't count in folk, and that is how he scored and won against Lee. Fix did have a nice inside trip in the 2nd match, but his other points were cheap exposure and push outs. Those don't count in folk. Think Logan Stieber v. Devin Carter. Would be a similar score with these two. In fact, if the match occurs, I will give you 4 points as well. Any takers? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTimeFan 857 Report post Posted August 16, 2015 Pico is on Mat B. Butler Mat A. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites