TBar1977 4,532 Report post Posted August 18, 2015 I was actually kidding about UW and ODU because it was stated that he could go anywhere. (Two good programs none the less) That being said, If guys like this only go to the top schools, does anyone else ever move in and if so how? Arizona State seems to be moving up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,532 Report post Posted August 18, 2015 Just asking, weren't Chertow, Abe, and Kolat somewhat successful internationally? 6 Throw in Kerry McCoy for good measure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaroslav Hasek 2,050 Report post Posted August 18, 2015 Throw in Kerry McCoy for good measure. one of the best American lightweights of all time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,532 Report post Posted August 18, 2015 one of the best American lightweights of all time. The post I responded to does not mention light weights. The full on begging for Spencer Lee on Hawk Report has begun, and It is quite a sight to behold. Grown men begging a kid to come to their school. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OtisCampbell 94 Report post Posted August 18, 2015 (edited) The post I responded to does not mention light weights. The full on begging for Spencer Lee on Hawk Report has begun, and It is quite a sight to behold. Grown men begging a kid to come to their school. Yeah, cause it isn't going on in your forums. And of course Suriano is going to say what he said. True or not he bought what PSU was selling. Using it as a reason for Lee to go there is kinda silly. I mean Mejia said “I really love the Midwest, more than the east coast" So obviously Lee probably feels the same. Edited August 18, 2015 by OtisCampbell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaroslav Hasek 2,050 Report post Posted August 18, 2015 (edited) The post I responded to does not mention light weights. the post you responded to was talking about lightweights http://board.themat.com/index.php?/topic/10207-spencer-lee/?p=169124 http://board.themat.com/index.php?/topic/10207-spencer-lee/?p=169357 but that's ok, we don't all have to live our lives by the draconian rule of the transitive property. Edited August 18, 2015 by Jaroslav Hasek Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,532 Report post Posted August 18, 2015 I don't see any begging on the Penn State boards. A lot of confidence, though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BDB50 11 Report post Posted August 18, 2015 I was happy that Soriano fell our way. Not only because of his obvious tallant but because he can go 125 if Spenser would want to RS or 133. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,532 Report post Posted August 18, 2015 I was happy that Soriano fell our way. Not only because of his obvious tallant but because he can go 125 if Spenser would want to RS or 133. I agree. I believe Suriano will wrestle 125 in his freshman year, then move to 133 to make room for, hopefully, Spencer Lee. I think that is the plan, and I have tremendous confidence in coach Sanderson to bring this all to fruition. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingnerd 3,003 Report post Posted August 18, 2015 (edited) The full on begging for Spencer Lee on Hawk Report has begun, and It is quite a sight to behold. Grown men begging a kid to come to their school. There is no shame in begging for Spencer Lee, whether you're a Hawkeye fan, PSU fan, or other school's fan. He is worth begging for. He is that good. Edited August 18, 2015 by wrestlingnerd Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,635 Report post Posted August 18, 2015 I agree. I believe Suriano will wrestle 125 in his freshman year, then move to 133 to make room for, hopefully, Spencer Lee. I think that is the plan, and I have tremendous confidence in coach Sanderson to bring this all to fruition. You're posts make me think about what it would be like to live in North Korea and be bombarded with redundant nonsensical propaganda all day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,532 Report post Posted August 18, 2015 You're posts make me think about what it would be like to live in North Korea and be bombarded with redundant nonsensical propaganda all day. LOL. You criticizing anyone of being non sensical is pretty rich. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,635 Report post Posted August 18, 2015 LOL. You criticizing anyone of being non sensical is pretty rich. i'll let this speak for itself.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cletus_Tucker 890 Report post Posted August 19, 2015 Lee will thrive regardless of where he goes simply because he is "that" good. No knock on Hall or anyone else, but Spencer is the best high wrestler in the country right now. His World Junior Championship speaks to that. Also, should he choose Penn State not only will he thrive personally, but unless something totally unforeseen happens he will be a part of another 4 year team title run with Penn State. As for your point about styles, again, I disagree. Penn State has had different wrestlers achieve the ultimate college success doing things totally different from other wrestlers at Penn State. I don't know. We saw what Fix did to him. No one has done that to Hall in this country. Lets consider Lee didn't wrestle the same guys Hall wrestled at junior worlds. Just because Lee out placed Hall, does ot mean he is the best wrestler in the country, especially considering Lee got beat twice just a few weeks ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bwh27 31 Report post Posted August 19, 2015 I don't know. We saw what Fix did to him. No one has done that to Hall in this country. Lets consider Lee didn't wrestle the same guys Hall wrestled at junior worlds. Just because Lee out placed Hall, does ot mean he is the best wrestler in the country, especially considering Lee got beat twice just a few weeks ago. Bo Nickal dominated Mark Hall twice during his sophomore year (same year as Lee's loss to Fix). Part of that seemed like a match-up problem since Hall did better against other elite opposition, but still. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,635 Report post Posted August 19, 2015 (edited) Yeah well Nickal was too classes older.......as opposed to being in the same grade. Edited August 19, 2015 by hammerlockthree Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chasden 54 Report post Posted August 19, 2015 (edited) I don't know. We saw what Fix did to him. No one has done that to Hall in this country. Lets consider Lee didn't wrestle the same guys Hall wrestled at junior worlds. Just because Lee out placed Hall, does ot mean he is the best wrestler in the country, especially considering Lee got beat twice just a few weeks ago. P4P Spencer Lee IS the best high school wrestler in the USA. Lee bumped up a weight to challenge the obviously bigger Fix. That day Fix was the better man at that weight. Lee might have lost "just a few weeks ago", well Hall just lost a few days ago! So now they go to Jr. worlds and Lee totally annihilates everyone in his path, while Hall looks less than stellar against against guys in his weight class. I can not see how you can even make a case for Hall at this point as the best HS wrestler now( as far as P4P), he sits behind Lee after the fact of what we just saw at worlds. Realistically though they are both phenoms and this just becomes a silly pissing match where no one is ever right and people will never agree. Edited August 19, 2015 by Chasden 1 Frank_Rizzo reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silver-medal 670 Report post Posted August 19, 2015 Based on who they've beaten, I'd still argue Hall is a bit better. Quibbling. Both are amazing. 1 rickybobby reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tightwaist 390 Report post Posted August 19, 2015 I don't know where Lee will go, but I will enjoy watching him regardless of the decision. Wrestlers like Lee, Valencia's, Hall, Nolf etc...are what college wrestling needs. The 2-1 OT finals matches on National TV are brutal for the sport. 1 Chasden reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank_Rizzo 336 Report post Posted August 19, 2015 (edited) Even in PA, two more years of high school wrestling is probably a waste of Spencer Lee's time. I wouldn't be surprised to see him go the Kyle Snyder route and head out to Colorado Springs after this season. He could probably place at 125 at the NCAAs this year. Edited August 19, 2015 by Frank_Rizzo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,532 Report post Posted August 19, 2015 I think he'd place pretty well at NCAA's. The guys he beat at Junior World Championships have to be close to equal of an NCAA field one would think. Different styles, but still. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chrissn2001 81 Report post Posted August 19, 2015 (edited) If Moisey wins a title or two at WVU, the team moves up in standings at NCAAs, and they hire some light/young coaches, couldn't the Mountaineers become a real possibility? Morgantown is pretty close to FR. Probably not, but it would make things interesting and 18 months ago we never thought ASU would be getting the kids they're getting. Edited August 19, 2015 by Chrissn2001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestlingnerd 3,003 Report post Posted August 19, 2015 What is scary about Lee's performance at the a Worlds is that his best position in any style is top in folkstyle. He blitzed the field like it was easy without using his best moves because they're irrelevant in freestyle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hammerlockthree 2,635 Report post Posted August 19, 2015 Well you said in another topic that his leg lace is the best since John Smith's.....can we make up our minds on what type of deity the kid is? This church is gonna need a reformation sooner rather than later if we can't even agree what our golden calf's best moves are! 1 rickybobby reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flying-Tiger 617 Report post Posted August 19, 2015 Church of Lee-tter Day Saints? 2 hammerlockthree and Bloate reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
