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While Brooks might end up majoring Boyd, does anyone remember this? 

184: No. 15 Nolan Boyd (OSU) dec. No. 7 Sammy Brooks (IOWA), 9-6

 

I actually think we see C Rogers at this weight for the Cowboy's.

Yes, we remember Brooks was on his way handling Boyd until he got too aggressive and had to fight off his back for some time and couldn't recover after. 

 

Oh and we remember Brooks bet him 7-1 as a freshman.  

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Actually, yes. Brooks was leading by five when he went for an unnecessary upper body throw in a 50/50 position and that's how Boyd scored all of his "offensive " points.

I may be mistaken but I think Boyd did get one more takedown, but it was after Brooks fought off his back and it was obvious to anyone that actually watched the match that Brooks was spent after fighting off his back. 

 

"It's always some freak accident when Iowa stiffs get beat." 

 

Did anyone say it was a freak accident?  

 

They predicted he would major Boyd the next time they wrestled.

 

Then someone else freaked out

 

Then we had to explain why this is probably more likely than Boyd actually winning again. 

 

You know what is actually more predictable? If someone says a certain wrestler got caught that everyone on here will freak out and they ignore the fact that people sometimes do get caught in wrestling. 

Edited by OtisCampbell

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Actually, yes. Brooks was leading by five when he went for an unnecessary upper body throw in a 50/50 position and that's how Boyd scored all of his "offensive " points.

 

 

 

So I guess you feel that Sam Stoll "caught" Adam Coon in the Greco Trials? 

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So I guess you feel that Sam Stoll "caught" Adam Coon in the Greco Trials?

I didn't see the match, honestly, so i can't comment. Possibly, although Stoll is a greco specialist who has a world level bronze and wrestled for another this year. Coon is the superior talent overall. It depends on the match situation when it happened. Edited by VakAttack

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So I guess you feel that Sam Stoll "caught" Adam Coon in the Greco Trials? 

If you can't see the difference between Brooks leading Boyd and then making a bone headed move to lose that match and Coon beating Stoll then I don't know what to tell you.

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Not to mention the fact the guy ended up in the ER trying to make 141 last season.

As I stated last year to this year is a completely different situation. Last year he tried to wrestle off at 157 lost, and then tried to make 141 in about 10 days time. This year he is being smart about his weight drop.

 

I know a lot of guys who would end up in the ER if they tried to cut that much weight in a week.

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If you can't see the difference between Brooks leading Boyd and then making a bone headed move to lose that match and Coon beating Stoll then I don't know what to tell you.

I think the difference is fairly obvious...what role the Hawkeye played in the match.

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I think the difference is fairly obvious...what role the Hawkeye played in the match.

Go ahead and compare the Ws/Ls and tell me how many AAs Brooks beat vs Boyd. I think it's pretty clear which wrestler has the better resume so it's not purely based on who is a fan of Iowa what side you stand on (unless you are a Hawkeye-hater and refuse to see any of them in a positive light).

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If you can't see the difference between Brooks leading Boyd and then making a bone headed move to lose that match and Coon beating Stoll then I don't know what to tell you.

 

It wasn't just a bone headed move, Boyd hit the same move that Gelogaev hit numerous times then proceeded to out work Brooks in the third period to secure the win....

 

If the roles were reversed all we would have heard was how much heart and grit the hawkeye showed to win the match with that third period td

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As I stated last year to this year is a completely different situation. Last year he tried to wrestle off at 157 lost, and then tried to make 141 in about 10 days time. This year he is being smart about his weight drop.

 

I know a lot of guys who would end up in the ER if they tried to cut that much weight in a week.

If I was tiger I would not want Grothus to make 141 either. 

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It wasn't just a bone headed move, Boyd hit the same move that Gelogaev hit numerous times then proceeded to out work Brooks in the third period to secure the win....

 

If the roles were reversed all we would have heard was how much heart and grit the hawkeye showed to win the match with that third period td

Lets put it this way. If Brooks doesn't go upper body with Boyd next they wrestle he will win, probably pretty handily. 

 

If it was the other way around I would say Brooks is going to have a hard time repeating what he did because he was getting it handed to him until Boyd pull a bonehead move and put himself in a upperbody situation that he had no reason to being in since he would have probably majored him if he would have just stuck to the basics but didn't and he lost the situation and then had to fight hard not to get pinned and blew his wad.  So Boyd is probably going to wrestle smarter next time and I hope Brooks got a lot better since last year or will probably get it handed to him.

Edited by OtisCampbell

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If I was tiger I would not want Grothus to make 141 either. 

 

That's funny otis. For the record, I hope he makes it because the writing is on the wall and predict Gulibon (on full feed) puts a take down clinic on a sucked out Grothus.

Edited by Flying-Tiger

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What about 157 for Iowa compared top Grothus? 

 

Seems many Iowa fans think Grothus will compete for an NCAA title at 141. I don't see such predictions for their 157. 

What are you asking?

 

Iowa is expected to run guys out that don't have a real resume at 157. Iowa will be happy if Edwin Cooper is a NCAA qualifier.

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What are you asking?

 

Iowa is expected to run guys out that don't have a real resume at 157. Iowa will be happy if Edwin Cooper is a NCAA qualifier.

 

 

I'm asking Lord Nelson is Grothus is really the last Hawkeye in that line up he'd bet anything on.. Read his post, then mine. My question is pretty straight forward in that I think maybe Grothus might be a better bet than the Hawkeye 157. If we used what is posted on Hawkeye Report then there is no doubt the consensus ranking of relative strengths of the ten weight classes 141 would be ahead of 157 in your line up. 

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Nobody has argued that Boyd should be favored against Brooks.  Nobody has even picked Brooks that I can see.  The disagreement was about picking Brooks by MD when Boyd won a 7 minute match last time.  I'm not sure I've seen a guy get caught in a 7 minute match before.  

 

I am pretty confident that in a dual setting Boyd can keep it within 7. Especially if Brooks has to avoid upper body ties.  

Edited by boconnell

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I'm asking Lord Nelson is Grothus is really the last Hawkeye in that line up he'd bet anything on.. Read his post, then mine. My question is pretty straight forward in that I think maybe Grothus might be a better bet than the Hawkeye 157. If we used what is posted on Hawkeye Report then there is no doubt the consensus ranking of relative strengths of the ten weight classes 141 would be ahead of 157 in your line up. 

Gotcha, I read that as an actual question as in what is Iowa going to have at 157. Didn't realize it was in reference to the betting Nelson was talking about.

 

I was just confused why Iowa's 157 was brought up.

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Brooks doesn't have to avoid upper body ties, and the move that Boyd 'hit' on Brooks (More of Brooks pulling him right on top of himself and falling to his back in an attempt at a sort of belly-to-belly suplex, from a bodylock) was more of just not getting thrown, not "the same move that Gelogaev hit numerous times".  He just doesn't need to do that specific one, his other over under trips and underhook attacks all worked fine for him, but that throw he tried nearly got him in a spot of trouble on 1 or 2 other occasions, but he was able to scramble out of danger on those attempts if I recall correctly.  

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