Jaroslav Hasek 2,050 Report post Posted October 5, 2015 Brackets for 57, 65 and 74 are out. I tweeted them here and this is the website http://www.korea2015mwg.org/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Housebuye 2,438 Report post Posted October 5, 2015 Do you have a list of the ranked wrestlers and the ones to look out for? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaroslav Hasek 2,050 Report post Posted October 5, 2015 no list but Russia is sending a very strong team. All world medalists I believe except 57 Tuskaev who is a cadet and junior world champ. Shuptar UKR just won bronze at worlds at 61 and is wrestling at 65. I'm assuming the Iranians will all be tough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hubbard 426 Report post Posted October 5, 2015 (edited) Iran didn't send a strong team. Shuptar will not be a threat to win at 65. Kurbanaliev should take it. Oliynik/Gatsalov could be good at 97. Edited October 5, 2015 by Hubbard Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Housebuye 2,438 Report post Posted October 5, 2015 Who did the US send? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaroslav Hasek 2,050 Report post Posted October 5, 2015 Team USA info here: http://www.teamusa.org/USA-Wrestling/Features/2015/September/29/USA-military-stars-to-compete-at-CISM-World-Games-in-Korea Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaroslav Hasek 2,050 Report post Posted October 5, 2015 (edited) matches start at 9:00 PM EST. Brackets aren't very large (17-12 entries) so it should move quickly. I think they are wrestling 2 mats at once. Edited October 5, 2015 by Jaroslav Hasek Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newyorkwrestler 258 Report post Posted October 6, 2015 live stream? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaroslav Hasek 2,050 Report post Posted October 6, 2015 Iran didn't send a strong team. Shuptar will not be a threat to win at 65. Kurbanaliev should take it. Oliynik/Gatsalov could be good at 97. good call at 65. Kurby teched Shupastar in under 2 minutes. Von Ohlen did the same to Macedonia, Nowry got teched by Iran, Dombrovsky lost to Harth from Germany by criteria. 97 hasn't wrestled yet. i have not seen a live stream for it unfortunately. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maligned 529 Report post Posted October 6, 2015 We finish 1-6, unfortunately, with only the Von Ohlen win over Macedonia to our credit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maligned 529 Report post Posted October 6, 2015 (edited) Medals and key results: 57kg: Kim-Korea, Kudrin-Kaz, Atranagharchi-Iran/Kadyan-India (5th Grigoryan-Arm/Gasimov-Aze...Tuskaev-Rus. loses to Gasimov; Nowry-U.S. lost to Atran.) 65kg: Kvrbanaliev-Russia, Heydari-Iran, Shagapuly-Kaz/Mustafayev-Aze (5th Shuptar-Ukr...von Ohlen-U.S. lost to Kvrby and Shuptar) 74kg: Tcabolov-Russia, Harth-Germ, Akbarizarinko-Iran/Usserbayev-Kaz (5th Brzowzski-Pol/Lee-Kor...Dombrovsky-U.S. lost to Harth and Lee) 97kg: Gatsalov-Rus, Dorjkhand-Mong, Oliinyk-Ukr/Yankouski-Bela (Gatsalov over Oliinyk 2-2 on criteria in semi's; Meza-U.S. lost to Eslami-Iran who lost to Oliinyk) Edited October 6, 2015 by maligned Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaroslav Hasek 2,050 Report post Posted October 6, 2015 surprised Tuskaev didn't do better. i don't know much about him but he has a cadet and junior world gold and he lost to AZE who lost to KAZ and IND. he's still young but he's going to need to improve to break into Russia's ridiculously loaded 57 spot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
armspin 257 Report post Posted October 6, 2015 Glad Gatsalov is back and winning. Would love to see him in one more Olympics. 1 WreslingSuperior reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maligned 529 Report post Posted October 6, 2015 surprised Tuskaev didn't do better. i don't know much about him but he has a cadet and junior world gold and he lost to AZE who lost to KAZ and IND. he's still young but he's going to need to improve to break into Russia's ridiculously loaded 57 spot. All these matches are on a knife's edge. Gasimov beats Tuskaev 3-2, Kudrin beats Kadyan 12-12 on criteria and comes back from down 5 in the second period to beat Gasimov. Then Lee beats Kudrin 15-10 in the final. At worlds, Lee lost 3-3 to Kumar, who lost 2-1 to Lebedev...and on and on we go. These guys are all super, super close. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrestfan 824 Report post Posted October 6, 2015 All these matches are on a knife's edge. Gasimov beats Tuskaev 3-2, Kudrin beats Kadyan 12-12 on criteria and comes back from down 5 in the second period to beat Gasimov. Then Lee beats Kudrin 15-10 in the final. At worlds, Lee lost 3-3 to Kumar, who lost 2-1 to Lebedev...and on and on we go. These guys are all super, super close. nope, another Korean wrestler Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaroslav Hasek 2,050 Report post Posted October 6, 2015 Tuskaev could definitely be close to elite level but he also just essentially finished 4th out 4 in his half of the bracket to 3 other back ups. but you're right, it was all very close. wish these guys would wrestle more often. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hubbard 426 Report post Posted October 6, 2015 57 was a bar fight. The South Korean who took the title barely won his first match (8-7) against the Pakistani soldier. Nice win for Gatsalov, but he will not be the rep. in Rio in my opinion. I see Makhov probably wrestling freestyle and Gadisov still being the guy at 97. Russia would love to put Gatsalov's ice in Gadisov's veins though. Mustafaev made Kurbanaliev work for his title. One of the best things about our sports folks is that it goes 12 months a year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axe_Spartan 205 Report post Posted October 6, 2015 Any videos of the matches? good call at 65. Kurby teched Shupastar in under 2 minutes. Von Ohlen did the same to Macedonia, Nowry got teched by Iran, Dombrovsky lost to Harth from Germany by criteria. 97 hasn't wrestled yet. i have not seen a live stream for it unfortunately. Wow, Kurbanaliev teching Shuptar impresses me very much, especially when you take in consideration how well the ukrainian did in the Worlds (bronze medal), even beating Bogomoev. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axe_Spartan 205 Report post Posted October 6, 2015 (edited) Is the eligibility for Military Games being former or actual member of armed forces? Aren't civilians (no military past) authorized to compete? EDIT: Well, I've found it -> Type : A non-profit organization where only active-duty military personnel participate I didn't know Gatsalov, Kurbanaliev, Otarsultanov were active-duty military personnel. Edited October 6, 2015 by Axe_Spartan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaroslav Hasek 2,050 Report post Posted October 6, 2015 Is the eligibility for Military Games being former or actual member of armed forces? Aren't civilians (no military past) authorized to compete? EDIT: Well, I've found it -> Type : A non-profit organization where only active-duty military personnel participate I didn't know Gatsalov, Kurbanaliev, Otarsultanov were active-duty military personnel. i'm guessing they're all active duty military the same way Russia's university games team were all matriculating students. it's poor form but at least we get some decent wrestling matches. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newyorkwrestler 258 Report post Posted October 7, 2015 cska in moscow I believe is affiliated with the military, so if they train out of there, they may technically be a "member" of the military Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maligned 529 Report post Posted October 7, 2015 cska in moscow I believe is affiliated with the military, so if they train out of there, they may technically be a "member" of the military Not only that...the system of national service casts a very wide net in many countries--to the point that half of some nations' under-30 population could rightly be considered military because their work is for the state/government/social/military apparatus, which are one and the same and which require some sort of direct military training or time contribution on an occasional basis for years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaroslav Hasek 2,050 Report post Posted October 7, 2015 and I once got into a military only bar because I have a USAA credit card. i understand that in countries with mandatory service and conscription, the entire young male population can be considered to have a military affiliation. but the spirit of the games and what you can get away with are two very different things. so to me it looks tacky but its cool as long as we get more quality international wrestling matches. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abdullahgadzhi Khuzin 1,466 Report post Posted October 7, 2015 Kim-Korea (57) Dzhamal Otarsultanov (61) Magomed Kurbanaliev (65) Soslan Ramonov (70) Khetag Tsabolov (74) Shamil Kudiyamagomedov (86) Khadzhimurad Garsalov (97) Vldaislav Baitcaev (125) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hubbard 426 Report post Posted October 7, 2015 Kudos to the Iranian who lost 2-2 against Otarsultanov. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
