BigTimeFan 1,141 Report post Posted December 19, 2015 Sorry to be so blunt, but come on. Chris Perry picks him apart and has a little hissy-fit getting teched. In the end something happened - please tell what you think - and he gets tilted and tilted again and it's over. He's upset. He's slapping the mat. He refuses to shake hands ... and he's tossed. What the heck? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LemonPie 1,368 Report post Posted December 19, 2015 If he's tired of losing, he should move to juniors. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LemonPie 1,368 Report post Posted December 19, 2015 You forgot the part where he was throwing punches at Perry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYWRESTLER94 221 Report post Posted December 19, 2015 He really tried to fight Chris perry went after him multiple times after they were separated Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTimeFan 1,141 Report post Posted December 19, 2015 You forgot the part where he was throwing punches at Perry Argh. I was watching and an email came in and I looked away! He threw punches? That's just obnoxious. On exactly what grounds would he be throwing punches? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boconnell 1,625 Report post Posted December 19, 2015 He tried to kick a few times him after the last tilt, and he connected on at least one. Perry went at him, and Valencia started throwing full on punches. Not good looking punches either. Wild, looping, angry little boy punches. There ought to be a suspension not just a DQ. That was terrible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nom 1,193 Report post Posted December 19, 2015 (edited) Looked more like open palm slap attempts but could have seen it wrong. Edited December 19, 2015 by nom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supyall46 7 Report post Posted December 19, 2015 Valencia kicked Perry a few times in the face after he got teched, so Perry got back on top of him. Valencia turned around and started throwing punches, and then chased after Perry trying to throw more punches. What a lame-O. Get out of seniors if you can't take the heat kid. Terrible sportsmanship. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LemonPie 1,368 Report post Posted December 19, 2015 I think the exchange was something like: Perry gave him an extra tilt after the tech Valencia gives him a disapproving kick Perry goes for the shove Valencia gets up swinging Both have to be separated, both jawing Valencia tries to fight through his coaches, but he fails and hits mat instead Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supyall46 7 Report post Posted December 19, 2015 (edited) Perry didn't give him an extra tilt as far as I saw - not sure but I don't think so. I think he needed two tilts to win, and after the second, Valencia kicked him in the face. Edited December 19, 2015 by supyall46 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,532 Report post Posted December 19, 2015 You forgot the part where he was throwing punches at Perry Girl punches. Don't forget that part. 1 headache reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boconnell 1,625 Report post Posted December 19, 2015 I think the exchange was something like: Perry gave him an extra tilt after the tech Valencia gives him a disapproving kick Perry goes for the shove Valencia gets up swinging Both have to be separated, both jawing Valencia tries to fight through his coaches, but he fails and hits mat instead This wasn't a back and forth thing. This was Valencia getting beat up and bullied in the match, and then not liking it after the match. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTimeFan 1,141 Report post Posted December 19, 2015 I rewatched it, here's what I see. With 1:00 left in the match, Perry is up 6-0 and AV tries some kind of weak below the knee sweep and slips to the ground. Perry lands on top and immediately puts him in a gut wrench. Valencia kind of screams as if in pain and Perry Tilts him. Now at that point on Flo they don't show the TD award so it looks like 8-0 but I think it wasn't ruled a slip so it was already 10-0. But Perry keeps the pressure on and rolls him over again at which point all hell breaks loose. Valencia scrambles back and kicks at Perry to get him off him, Perry charges forward at which point Valencia more or less really does girl-slap Perry ("don't you be go tiltin me boy! Treat me like a WOMAN!"). Then Anthony charges Perry again and tries to hit him again. Game over. It's really sad. He's now lost to quite a few wrestlers and all the whiz-bang from the US Open has faded. He skipped Juniors last year and never got his rematch with Mark Hall (who whalloped him like 11-1 on the Who's number One). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2td3nf 586 Report post Posted December 19, 2015 Anthony is still young, but that's no excuse for him to act like a such a sore loser. He's got to control his emotions on this high level, and especially after being beat so soundly. Chris wrestled an excellent match and looked much stronger. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supyall46 7 Report post Posted December 19, 2015 I rewatched it, here's what I see. With 1:00 left in the match, Perry is up 6-0 and AV tries some kind of weak below the knee sweep and slips to the ground. Perry lands on top and immediately puts him in a gut wrench. Valencia kind of screams as if in pain and Perry Tilts him. Now at that point on Flo they don't show the TD award so it looks like 8-0 but I think it wasn't ruled a slip so it was already 10-0. But Perry keeps the pressure on and rolls him over again at which point all hell breaks loose. Valencia scrambles back and kicks at Perry to get him off him, Perry charges forward at which point Valencia more or less really does girl-slap Perry ("don't you be go tiltin me boy! Treat me like a WOMAN!"). Then Anthony charges Perry again and tries to hit him again. Game over. It's really sad. He's now lost to quite a few wrestlers and all the whiz-bang from the US Open has faded. He skipped Juniors last year and never got his rematch with Mark Hall (who whalloped him like 11-1 on the Who's number One). That would explain why I didn't see the extra tilt then. Thanks. Regardless, Perry was just wrestling until the ref stopped it. He could have seen the score on the scoreboard to be 6-0 just as we did. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boconnell 1,625 Report post Posted December 19, 2015 A fair enough assessment. I thought the punches and kicks were bad, but to me the worst thing is that Valencia never went that hard at Perry at any point in the match. This isn't basketball or baseball where you have to go outside the action to hurt a guy. Valencia had 5 minutes to show how tough he was and instead he backed up and crawled out of bounds on his knees to avoid the push out half a dozen times. Then after the butt kicking is over, he's all of a sudden a tough guy? 1 Coach_J reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTimeFan 1,141 Report post Posted December 19, 2015 Supyal, that's how I see it too. You don't give up that position until you know the TF is called. So, if you are Zeke Jones, what's going through your head right now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pamela 1,334 Report post Posted December 19, 2015 Did Anthony Valencia get DQed from the tournament? Wondering because I still see his name in the consi brackets. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,532 Report post Posted December 19, 2015 I rewatched it, here's what I see. With 1:00 left in the match, Perry is up 6-0 and AV tries some kind of weak below the knee sweep and slips to the ground. Perry lands on top and immediately puts him in a gut wrench. Valencia kind of screams as if in pain and Perry Tilts him. Now at that point on Flo they don't show the TD award so it looks like 8-0 but I think it wasn't ruled a slip so it was already 10-0. But Perry keeps the pressure on and rolls him over again at which point all hell breaks loose. Valencia scrambles back and kicks at Perry to get him off him, Perry charges forward at which point Valencia more or less really does girl-slap Perry ("don't you be go tiltin me boy! Treat me like a WOMAN!"). Then Anthony charges Perry again and tries to hit him again. Game over. It's really sad. He's now lost to quite a few wrestlers and all the whiz-bang from the US Open has faded. He skipped Juniors last year and never got his rematch with Mark Hall (who whalloped him like 11-1 on the Who's number One). That is exactly what I saw. Great description. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTimeFan 1,141 Report post Posted December 19, 2015 Did Anthony Valencia get DQed from the tournament? Wondering because I still see his name in the consi brackets. Yes. They knocked him out. No consis for him. 1 pamela reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pamela 1,334 Report post Posted December 19, 2015 Thanks, @BigTimeFan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYWRESTLER94 221 Report post Posted December 19, 2015 Did Anthony Valencia get DQed from the tournament? Wondering because I still see his name in the consi brackets.Flo guy on the mat said he was Out after that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cletus_Tucker 890 Report post Posted December 19, 2015 I'm hearing Perry had a firm grip on his junk when he took him over and used it like a modified handle/grip. Needless to say AV was not at all pleased. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boconnell 1,625 Report post Posted December 19, 2015 I'm hearing Perry had a firm grip on his junk when he took him over and used it like a modified handle/grip. Needless to say AV was not at all pleased. What's your source for Valencia's junk? 1 Coach_J reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billyhoyle 2,479 Report post Posted December 19, 2015 I need to watch the video first to give an opinion, but is there precedent for a wrestler being suspended for behavior like this? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites