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Wes Phipps to Heavyweight for Penn State? Does that make a difference?

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Housebuye    1,703

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Cael said Wes Phipps was bulking up and may try to wrestle off for a heavyweight spot.

 

Could he make NCAAs at heavyweight realistically? Could he win a match if he got there? 

 

I'm not too familiar with him, but he was a 4 time placer in high school, including a state championship. He has a few wins over ranked opponents over the years as well. 

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Flying-Tiger    608

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I really don't think it will matter. He will be severely undersized, even more so then Johnson. Without Nevills, this weight is a non qualifier and I don't see anyone on the current roster that is going to change that.  

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Buckxell    141

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Cael said Wes Phipps was bulking up and may try to wrestle off for a heavyweight spot.

 

Could he make NCAAs at heavyweight realistically? Could he win a match if he got there?

 

I'm not too familiar with him, but he was a 4 time placer in high school, including a state championship. He has a few wins over ranked opponents over the years as well.

Any indication of how much he weighs?

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MSU158    1,280

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silver-medal,

 

You are lucky you aren't in any of my fantasy sports leagues.  Your type of trade is the one that I immediately SHUT DOWN!  Trade someone to a team in a spot/position where they have no one(making them likely to win it all) for someone that will sit your bench? The same thing applies in legacy/keeper leagues.  Trade someone for a guy that possibly may help you next year? NOPE not happening!  :)

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conyewest    57

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So you are saying that if you need a RB and you are in excess of WRs no one in your league who has extra RBs and needs a WR would trade you? 

 

The idea behind most any trade is to better yourself. Not ensure that you don't improve the other guy.

 

That being said a trade in this case is crazy and Silver seems like he was just poking fun at the odd depth for PSU and OSUs needs.

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HokieHWT    249

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At least it didn't matter against VA Tech.

Oh no! PSU beat VT, in other late breaking news, Cael offers a scholarship to a heavyweight then then pulls it when he gets a "better one" and now doesn't have a heavyweight at all and it may cost him a national championship!

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Oh no! PSU beat VT, in other late breaking news, Cael offers a scholarship to a heavyweight then then pulls it when he gets a "better one" and now doesn't have a heavyweight at all and it may cost him a national championship!

Haines committed as a sophomore, Cael would not have been able to offer him a scholarship at that time.

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Old_Marine_Wrestler    245

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Haines committed as a sophomore, Cael would not have been able to offer him a scholarship at that time.

Exactly.

 

Not to re-hash it, but as Hokie brought up the non-factual "offer being pulled" once again.  Haines chose to de-commit when Nevills verballed. He could have decided to go to Penn State.

 

He elected to find a different school; and now may be in a worse spot. Where are the cries of Coach Ryan screwing him over by allowing Snyder to wrestle heavyweight?

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meluvwrestling    25

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If you have a proven violation of NCAA rules to report, do so.

 

This isn't about reporting violation, this is about rather or not coaches offer scholarships prior to the July 1st date and the answer is "YES".  They do offer unofficial offers and the official offers (on paper), come on or after July 1st.   Anyone who thinks otherwise, have never been through the process with a highly recruited student athlete.

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Old_Marine_Wrestler    245

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This isn't about reporting violation, this is about rather or not coaches offer scholarships prior to the July 1st date and the answer is "YES".  They do offer unofficial offers and the official offers (on paper), come on or after July 1st.   Anyone who thinks otherwise, have never been through the process with a highly recruited student athlete.

It is about reporting a violation.

 

Otis stated that he doesn't believe Haines then sophomore status did not prevent Sanderson from offering him a scholarship to wrestle at Penn State.

 

Sanderson has stated on record that he did not offer him a scholarship. If he did, he's lied about it as well as violated NCAA rules.  All Otis has to do is provide the proof, which he seems to have with such confidence in his statement.

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meluvwrestling    25

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I believe that Cael didn't offer him an official offer.  If Cael said that he didn't offer him an official or unofficial, that's another statement all together.  Any coach who puts an "unofficial offer" in writing, they deserve to get caught.  Verbal offers become his word against the recruits word.

 

Also, you have to consider how the coaches word these "unofficial offers".  Wording alone can keep a coach out of trouble.

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ccrider55    16

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USC football, Duke basketball, and many others have made public "offers" to kids in 8th grade (and possibly younger). I can't remember who but one was honored even when the kid had a career ending injury in HS. Until there is a NLOI there nothing but how many promises you can (or chose to) keep vs how much damage to recruiting is done by over promising.

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HokieHWT    249

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Cael sweet talked Haines to get him to committ, ensuring that no one else would go after him since he had committed. All the while knowing he didn't have to keep his word and if someone came along who was better, he could offer them. This is even worse than him pulling an offer. He played a high school kid, twisted his emotions and dreams, then dropped him when Nevillis committed. Disgraceful.

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