wrestlingnerd 3,000 Report post Posted February 15, 2016 Snyder may win his title, but there is no way he will do so easily. They have weight classes for a reason, and there is a very wide gap between Gwiz and the guys Snyder has been lighting up like Christmas trees lately. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boconnell 1,623 Report post Posted February 15, 2016 The best heavies are playing football. That is why the best 197s Cox and Snyder can win 285. That is the only reason. Snyder knows he can beat Gwiz already from going with him at the OTC. I know that was freestyle but without that knowledge I bet he didn't come back this year unless he pretty much knew he could easily win the title. Snyder was beating him worse than Tervel-yes I know it was practice but we will see I guess. Ty Walz scares me a bit because of sheer size. This is completely false. The best athletes at 197 (men who walk around at 220 and have the frame to bulk up beyond that) are not wrestling anymore often then the best athletes at heavyweight are. As for whether they can win at heavy, Snyder will get his chance to prove it. If Cox could have won a national title at 285 he'd be wrestling there. As is Mizzou is sending out a guy who is almost a forfeit. Obviously Cox likes his chances at 197 better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Show_Me 336 Report post Posted February 15, 2016 Snyder is very impressive. For the record, I am a fan. With yhat being said, my money is on Gwiz until I see Snyder dominate a Walz, Coon, or Marsden. Size difference does matter. And, if he couldnt beat Gadson at 197, why would I assume he beats Gwiz based solely on his impressive Freestyle results. I could be wrong. The next month should be interesting ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teach 175 Report post Posted February 15, 2016 The best guys from 125 - 157 are playing soccer. So, 165 and 174 are really the only tough weights. 1 John Coctostan reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headshuck 2,588 Report post Posted February 15, 2016 No, 165 and 174 are playing hockey. 1 John Coctostan reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTimeFan 1,141 Report post Posted February 15, 2016 Snyder is very impressive. For the record, I am a fan. With yhat being said, my money is on Gwiz until I see Snyder dominate a Walz, Coon, or Marsden. Size difference does matter. And, if he couldnt beat Gadson at 197, why would I assume he beats Gwiz based solely on his impressive Freestyle results. I could be wrong. The next month should be interesting ! He didn't beat Gadsen that's for sure. He couldn't beat him at the NCAAs, that's a proven fact. But can he beat Gadsen? No question. So your point is well taken: I wouldn't count Gwiz out of the match. I wouldn't lay long odds for a Snyder win. I would say, however, that if Synder keeps it together mentally and doesn't have the kind of full-on brain freeze like he did in B1Gs and NCAAs last year, he is the favorite. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTimeFan 1,141 Report post Posted February 15, 2016 The best guys from 125 - 157 are playing soccer. So, 165 and 174 are really the only tough weights. Soccer or rhythmic gymnastics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigTimeFan 1,141 Report post Posted February 15, 2016 No, 165 and 174 are playing hockey. Or cheerleading, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordNelson 552 Report post Posted February 15, 2016 I bet he takes Coon and Stoll down at Big 10's. Stoll yes, Coon will be a different animal for him. Coon's style will be interesting for Snyder. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,498 Report post Posted February 15, 2016 Stoll yes, Coon will be a different animal for him. Coon's style will be interesting for Snyder. I'd bet on Snyder to beat Coon every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Witherman 384 Report post Posted February 15, 2016 (edited) This. And the guys he's wrestling are DI wrestlers. Selective comp or not, he's been impressive up a weight. is he really up a weight though? I mean he wrestles 213.5 in free, I'd say its safe to assume he's close to 240 with that being said, IMO snyder walks through this weight Edited February 15, 2016 by Witherman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRyan2012 347 Report post Posted February 15, 2016 Snyder says he stays around 220..... 225 at the most as his walk around fit weight. So yes he is up a weight. About the same for Varner. JD is around 240 without cutting. Cox I bet is closer to 230. Again Snyder already knows he can beat Gwiz and Coon. The wild card is wrestling Walz or Mardsen for the first time and getting surprised. Size will be a factor with all these guys! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigBrog 43 Report post Posted February 15, 2016 Not even an Ohio St. fan but it is amazing the lack of respect people give a world champion...oh yeah it was freestyle.... eye roll Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unbiased 516 Report post Posted February 15, 2016 Big fan of Snyder and I hope him continued success but the World Champ lost two weeks ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teach 175 Report post Posted February 15, 2016 he won't beat Gwiz....... I can't believe the lack of respect people give a defending national champ at that weight. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSU158 1,984 Report post Posted February 15, 2016 The best guys from 125 - 157 are playing soccer. So, 165 and 174 are really the only tough weights. Are we talking about Americans or the World?????? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,498 Report post Posted February 15, 2016 Big fan of Snyder and I hope him continued success but the World Champ lost two weeks ago. But he lost to another world caliber wrestler. Snyder won't be facing anyone quite of that caliber at NCAA. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unbiased 516 Report post Posted February 15, 2016 Snyder hasn't wrestled a Folkstyler of Gwiz's caliber yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,498 Report post Posted February 15, 2016 Snyder hasn't wrestled a Folkstyler of Gwiz's caliber yet. He's wrestled Gwiz himself many times at OTC. I am guessing he is well versed on where he stands vs. Gwiz. Don't get me wrong, I actually DO give Gwiz a chance against Snyder. I would still rate Snyder a favorite. I would rate Snyder a big favorite against everyone else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unbiased 516 Report post Posted February 15, 2016 Hopefully we will see but I will reserve handing over the Championship until the match is wrestled. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boconnell 1,623 Report post Posted February 15, 2016 He's wrestled Gwiz himself many times at OTC. I am guessing he is well versed on where he stands vs. Gwiz. Don't get me wrong, I actually DO give Gwiz a chance against Snyder. I would still rate Snyder a favorite. I would rate Snyder a big favorite against everyone else. I pick Snyder as well, but I don't place any predictive value on practice matches in a different style. I also don't think Snyder coming back means he got the best of those practice matches. Some guys would wrestle even if another guy was their equal or better in old practice matches. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cletus_Tucker 890 Report post Posted February 15, 2016 (edited) Not even an Ohio St. fan but it is amazing the lack of respect people give a world champion...oh yeah it was freestyle.... eye roll It's not lack of respect, it's a different style. He is beatable in folk, we've seen that. Edited February 15, 2016 by Cletus_Tucker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBar1977 4,498 Report post Posted February 15, 2016 I pick Snyder as well, but I don't place any predictive value on practice matches in a different style. I also don't think Snyder coming back means he got the best of those practice matches. Some guys would wrestle even if another guy was their equal or better in old practice matches. We'll find out soon enough, and it should be a highly anticipated match up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Housebuye 2,422 Report post Posted February 15, 2016 Snyder says he stays around 220..... 225 at the most as his walk around fit weight. So yes he is up a weight. About the same for Varner. JD is around 240 without cutting. Cox I bet is closer to 230. Again Snyder already knows he can beat Gwiz and Coon. The wild card is wrestling Walz or Mardsen for the first time and getting surprised. Size will be a factor with all these guys! Are you sure he beat Gwiz at the OTC? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snwbrdwint 24 Report post Posted February 15, 2016 Seems to do real well taking down fat boys in D1. Not quite so well against Russian with some strength and technique. Right, because Abdulsalam Gadisov is synonymous with poor technique and lack of strength. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites