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Has anyone ever lost in the pigtails and then get 3rd at NCAAs

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Antonio Garay did it for Boston College.

 

Edit: Sorry, I am not sure if it was pig tails or first round.

Edited by ShannonSofield

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John Lange (Penn State) in 1998 lost in the 1st round (he was the 7 seed @ 158) to David Wells of Cal Poly SLO by major.

 

He worked his way back winning 7 straight to place 3rd. After the Round of 12 match, he wrestled Wells again and pinned him.

 

John didn't have a pig, but it is interesting that he was able to wrestle the guy that put him in the consis.

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This is from an older thread on this forum.  All of these wrestlers lost their first match and then won seven in a row to finish 3rd, excepting Quisel, who also had to win a consi pigtail match.

Quisel holds the record for most wins at a NCAA tourney with 8.)

Note that all of the wrestlers that beat the eventual 3rd place finishers finished lower than 3rd.  Four did not place at all.


http://www.thematforums.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=100025&sid=aad36b56090fa6e580d610d77734e8f8&start=80

 

 

1. Marvin Jones 1986 (Jim Bouwman defeated Jones and did not AA)
2. Tom Miller 1992 (Jeff Lyons defeated Miller and finished 5th)
3. John Lange 1998 (David Wells defeated Lange and finished 7th)
4. Larry Quisel 1999 (Corey Wallman defeated Quisel and did not AA. Quisel had a consi pigtail win, too.)
5. JD Bergman 2004 (BJ Padden defeated Bergman and did not AA)
6. Dustin Manotti 2006 (Tony Hook defeated Manotti and did not AA)
7. Don Vinson 2012 (Nick Lester defeated Vinson and finished 8th)

Edited by TheOhioState

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Yes, Schopp lost in the 1st round to Caleb Richardson who lost his next two matches 3-1 in OT.  Schopp then won 7 matches in a row to take 3rd.  An interesting stat was that, in doing so, Schopp scored 21 Tournament points outscoring every second place finisher and tying Gabe Dean for 10th in Total Scoring.  Obviously, the top 9 where all NCAA Champs.

Edited by MSU158

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Like Quisel, Franc Affentranger (Cal Bak 134 lbs) got beat first round but not in pigs. This was 1977. He was thrown into pigs for consolation then went 6 straight to 3rd.

 

But so far I don't think there's been a loser in championship pigtails to go to third.

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All these wrestlers lost their first matches at the NCAA's, and then went on to win their remaining matches, finishing 3rd.

All finished with 7-1 records, excepting Affentranger, who went 6-1 (with a consi pigtail win) and Quisel, who went 8-1 (also with a consi pigtail win.)

Affentranger is the only wrestler on the list who was defeated by a man who actually finished higher than him.

 

1.  Franc Affentranger 1977 (Dennis Brighton defeated Affentranger and finished 2nd)
2.  Marvin Jones 1986 (Jim Bouwman defeated Jones and did not AA)

3. Tom Miller 1992 (Jeff Lyons defeated Miller and finished 5th)
4. John Lange 1998 (David Wells defeated Lange and finished 7th)
5. Larry Quisel 1999 (Corey Wallman defeated Quisel and did not AA. Quisel had a consi pigtail win, too.)
6. JD Bergman 2004 (BJ Padden defeated Bergman and did not AA)
7. Dustin Manotti 2006 (Tony Hook defeated Manotti and did not AA)
8. Don Vinson 2012 (Nick Lester defeated Vinson and finished 8th)

9. AJ Shopp 2015 (Caleb Richardson defeated Shopp and did not AA)

Edited by TheOhioState

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Someone from www.ohiowrestling.net pointed out that when Don Vinson faced Cam Tessari for third place in 2012, both had lost their first match and had won the next 6.  

 

Vinson, of course, won his 7th in a row by defeating Tessari (12-10, in a barn burner.)

 

I was just about to post this, that was a crazy run through the brackets

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After losing 9-4 to Nick Lester in the 1st round, Vinson went for broke.  He scored points like mad, winning by: Fall 2:55(Osterman), 16-1(Jantzen-who beat Tessari 1st round), Fall 2:32(Terrazas), 12-5(Grajales), 16-5(Lester-avenging his loss), 5-0(Nauman) and 12-10(Tessari).

 

Tessari lost 10-8 to Corey Jantzen in the 1st round and the went on to win: 6-1(Welsh), Fall 5:51(Tao), 3-2(Sako), 5-4(Von Ohlen), 4-1(Sakaguchi), 9-5(Accordino) before losing 12-10 to Tessari.

 

They were both so entertaining you almost forget that Molinaro beat Ness 4-1 in the Finals!

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After losing 9-4 to Nick Lester in the 1st round, Vinson went for broke.  He scored points like mad, winning by: Fall 2:55(Osterman), 16-1(Jantzen-who beat Tessari 1st round), Fall 2:32(Terrazas), 12-5(Grajales), 16-5(Lester-avenging his loss), 5-0(Nauman) and 12-10(Tessari).

 

Tessari lost 10-8 to Corey Jantzen in the 1st round and the went on to win: 6-1(Welsh), Fall 5:51(Tao), 3-2(Sako), 5-4(Von Ohlen), 4-1(Sakaguchi), 9-5(Accordino) before losing 12-10 to Tessari.

 

They were both so entertaining you almost forget that Molinaro beat Ness 4-1 in the Finals!

 

 

I highly doubt that most people "almost forget" Molinaro's win in the finals because of what happened in the consolation bracket.

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